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So it looks like Swiss email/AI/everything else too provider Proton have revamped their LUMO AI product into version 2, and have changed the underlying tech stack to be 100% Chinese origin, using QWEN and GLM LLM's, when previously they had Mistral, Apertus, OLMo and 1 x Chinese one, KIMI.

Their support have stated the choice was made because the other LLM's simply cannot compete with the likes of ChatGPT and Claude - so they have opted for the Chinese models.

A curious choice to make, given their very strong previous stance on the strategic and economic need for European tech independence and the need for an non-US/Chinese capability.

These Chinese models ARE supposedly physically on Proton's servers, so no data will be going to China - but the ideology pivots away from being Euro-centric without a doubt.

Of course they need to compete, but the message, particularly to European users and businesses who have supported them because of their stance, is a difficult one.

Opinions?

First off - thank you to the Proton Lumo team for what appears to be a massive upgrade - very very impressed so far.

I'm interested in the choices of LLM's behind the scenes which are now established as:

Qwen 3.5, GLM 5.2, Image-Turbo, and FireRed-Image-Edit-1.1

According to the support page.

This implies that the fully open systems like Apertus (Switzerland) and OLMo (US) have been dropped, as has, interestingly, Mistral (France)

Is anyone able to explain the reasoning behind the choices? Thank you in advance.

NB - this is not a whine - more of a "huh"?