u/Chaotic_Locked_Soul

Just reminder that this is the very first episode Lucifer
▲ 60 r/lucifer

Just reminder that this is the very first episode Lucifer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Osct4hIRGoA (scene with Delilah)

Putting this here cause I often read here how he started as 100% self-absorbed asshole who doesn't care about anyone but himself and I don't understand where those claims are coming from. (Of course he is very flawed and complicated and definitely can act self-absorbed, just pointing out it's not that one-dimensional)

u/Chaotic_Locked_Soul — 15 days ago
▲ 35 r/lucifer

Writing a post cause it will get lost in the debate lower.

Please just remember this is just my opinion. I'm hardly an expert on writing. I just watch and feel in a certain way and then I'm trying to think about and describe what I saw that made me feel that way.

Also English is not my native language and I'm writing on mobile and I realized I tend to do mistakes I often overlook so please don't get mad about the grammar.

I realized something. We always tend to defend characters we like. I think people are more willing to dig for motivations when they are a fan of the character. Chloe's fans are always argumenting with things that are actually logical conclusion of her situation and so I would say those are good arguments. But I think that part of the reason it's not so convincing for someone like me, who feel more neutral about he character, is that we don't really see the show exploring those things.

Like a lot of people say that as an atheist, she is going through the bigger shock cause what she thought is the truth about universe changed. This is a great point, but I don't remember that being really addressed on screen. What we see her struggling with on screen is always about Lucifer being the Devil. No thoughts about God or afterlife or whatever. The frequent criticism of the show is that Chloe kinda stopped being her own character and turned into a "love interest" and if I look at this whole situation, I definitely see where it's coming from. There was so much more to explore about her reaction.

Or that Kinley manipulated her when she was vulnerable. Again, great point, but where do we see that happening? Cause I don't find anything he said or showed on screen that convincing. Chloe herself is questioning it the whole time. I assume that he manipulated her but I don't remember any really effective manipulation happening.

It's easy for me to sympathize with Lucifer cause I actually see what he is going through. Just the sequence of him singing Creep tells me more about his state of mind than everything we get about Chloe.

I would still probably hate the whole thing no matter how it's handled cause after dragged season three the Deckesrtar drama got a bit exhausting and the way their relationship was written really isn't my cup of tea. But I still wonder if I would have easier time understanding Chloe if they let me see her internal struggle a bit more.

Idk I admit it's been a while since I watched it the last time so maybe I remember it wrong, I apologize if it's the case.

Well, that's all.

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u/Chaotic_Locked_Soul — 17 days ago