I started watching The Mentalist not too long ago, and I’m almost done with the first season. But I kept thinking that if they were to ever do a more comic accurate version of Lucifer, with the blonde hair and all, does anyone else think that Simon Baker would be a good fit for the role? 🤔

Saw arguments similar to this one a few times on this sub and started a post because I'm curious about what people think. If you believe there was no plan, why?

God mentions the plan when he and Goddess are saying goodbye to Lucifer and Amenadiel. When Lucifer asks him how much was part of the plan, God just chuckles "knowingly" and leaves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqQmemkS4tg&t=267s

We can, of course, speculate about the specifics of the plan, how much was and wasn't planned, and what it really was, and I guess we can also theorize that God just made it up. Definitely not impossible for me to believe. But I have a hard time understanding why some people are so sure there was absolutely no plan at all while this scene exists.

I personally think that God either always planned for Lucifer to become a Hell Healer and for Amenadiel to become God, and that's why he banished Lucifer to Hell in the first place and then created Chloe. He is omniscient and knew things would eventually develop in a certain way, so he needed to interfere just minimally but pushed events in a certain direction when necessary. So basically everything was the plan.

OR God is much more limited than everyone thinks. He doesn't see the whole future, and there was no plan, and he actually kicked Lucifer out because his ego couldn't manage that someone was opposing him. Maybe he even regretted it a little bit later, but he wouldn't admit he was wrong about something. Then I guess he created Chloe to move things on somehow (he might not be fully omniscient, but I guess he still can predict things to some level) and made up the plan to make it look like he actually knows what he's doing. And maybe he also wanted to take credit for his children's achievements. He also doesn't want anyone to know about his limitations.

I like the second take more because it would mean that I didn't watch the show where characters were secretly just God's puppets the whole time, and God eventually got what he wanted and everyone just accepted it. It also goes along with the theme that celestials are exactly as imperfect as humans, which should include God. I think my own dad actually partially inspired that theory, lol.

But I really don't think that when it comes to God in this show, anything is clear and obvious. He was a very confusing character for me.

I know most fandom didn’t warmly receive Rory. Myself included. Here’s a video that highlights this story.
Based on recent discussions, can anyone make a persuasive argument why this was a good ending for Lucifer and Chloe? Am I missing something redeeming about this storyline that actually enriches, rather than takes away from the main themes of the show? Something that makes this the best ending for the series? What might the showrunners intentions have been? Positive interpretations please. Or is this too much of a challenge?

Lucifer has always been portrayed as white and depicted as the Bringer of Light. Krishna, on the other hand, has always been portrayed as black, with his complexion often compared to dark clouds. Both are beautiful and attractive, yet one is white and the other is black.

Lucifer’s core teachings are that all living beings are gods themselves, so one should not worship any god, follow any moral teachings, or suppress any desires—instead, one should desire everything.

Krishna’s core teachings are that all living beings are parts of God. Therefore, one should worship God (that is me), follow my moral teachings, and eliminate desires.

Both are completely opposite forces: one is Venus(Lucifer) one is Saturn(Krishna)..

It started with a candle wax kink and I thought I started porn by mistake.

Am I the only one who feels like Maze had it the worst out of pretty much everyone before she and Eve got together?

She was abandoned by Lilith, spent basically her entire existence in Hell, followed Lucifer out because he was pretty much her family, and then constantly dealt with the fear of being abandoned again. On top of that, she spent so much of the series trying to figure out who she even was outside of being a demon.

I feel like a lot of Maze’s anger and bad decisions came from that loneliness and abandonment. Then Eve comes along and Maze finally gets someone who genuinely accepts her for who she is.

Maybe I’m overlooking someone else’s story, but Maze’s backstory honestly feels like one of the saddest to me. What do y’all think?

One more I like how they contextualized Lucifer in the show despite how the real world views him. They didn’t just make him this pure evil character with no depth. They gave him his own perspective, emotions, and reasons for the way he is, and you actually get to see how much of his personality comes from feeling abandoned and misunderstood. It makes you look at the character completely differently.

Maze has known Lucifer for thousands of years, so she has basically zero tolerance for his favorite trick: turning an uncomfortable feeling into a joke. You see it especially around his therapy. Lucifer can talk around what Linda is actually getting at, make some ridiculous comment, and act like he's completely unaffected.Maze usually doesn't buy it for a second. It's not even some clever deduction. She just knows when Lucifer is doing the thing where he talks his way around something instead of admitting it actually bothers him. Very Maze.

Would love to see them kiss here.

En momentos límite, todos necesitamos a alguien en quien confiar. Lucifer nos ofrece su poder y devoción absoluta, Maze su lealtad feroz y protección letal, y la Dra. Linda su guía emocional y comprensión. Si tuvieras que poner tu vida en manos de uno de ellos, ¿a quién elegirías y por qué? Los leo en los comentarios