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Original poster: u/YaThatAintRight
Original publication time: 2026-08-19 16:37:56 UTC
Original title: Claude vs Cursor Usage Limits
Original flair: Comparison
Original URL/media URL: https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1vsrmzi/claude_vs_cursor_usage_limits/

Original post body:

I started new Claude Max 20x and Cursor Ultra subscriptions on the same day two weeks ago. They have used the same about of total token spend across frontier models, including Fable 5 / Opus 5 and also with cursor Grok 4.6.

I hit the Fable cap in Claude before Cursor even though it was set as the primary model for each. I hit the hourly usage limit in Claude consistently, the weekly limit within 3 business days.

I still have 55% of my monthly total usage left for Cursor and have not hit a limiter. Claude is sitting pegged to its 100% cap.

Project results (2d/3d development workflows and game development) have shown the real world outcomes are basically equal.

When messaging the Anthropic bot it dropped this little morsel that led me to immediately cancel my Max 20x plan:

“One thing you should know. Your weekly Claude Code limit has been running 50 percent higher under a promotion, and that promotion ends tonight, August 19, at 11:59 PM PT. After that, weekly Claude Code limits return to standard levels with no change to your plan or billing”

To me, that makes this plan the worst value proposition on the market.

Original poster: u/Lumpy_Pie_5950
Original publication time: 2026-08-19 16:22:24 UTC
Original title: Claude The Fraud
Original flair: Question about Claude products
Original URL/media URL: https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1vsr79l/claude_the_fraud/

Original post body:

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Conversation ID for your records:

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Please provide details on how we can assist you. To ensure we can investigate this thoroughly, could you share the following in your response:

A description of the current experience and any steps to reproduce it
Any error messages (screenshots are helpful too!)
Email addresses of the impacted members
Organization ID or plan this request is associated with
Browser, Claude product (Teams,Pro, etc.), device, and OS (e.g. Claude.ai on Chrome on macOS Ventura)
When the issue started and whether it's happening consistently or intermittently

The more detail you can share, the faster we can make sure you get the help you need!

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You canceled the incorrect subscription. I requested that subscription for receipt #2122-1644-7950 to be canceled. You incorrectly cancelled subscription #2952-9712-3107. Is either subscription active?

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Hi Brad — based on what was confirmed earlier, receipt #2122-1644-7950 (the July renewal) was the one you approved to cancel, and that refund of $21.32 was processed for it. Your other subscription, #2952-9712-3107 (the August charge), was confirmed to remain active — no cancellation was made to that one.

So currently: #2122-1644-7950 is canceled/refunded, and #2952-9712-3107 should still be active.

While I don't have full real-time visibility into your account's current billing status to double-check this right now, if you're seeing something different on your end (e.g., #2952-9712-3107 showing as canceled), let me know the specifics you're seeing and I can help sort out the discrepancy.

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Is that what you were looking for?

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If you still need help sorting out the subscription discrepancy, we are here to assist. Could you share more details about what you are currently seeing on your end so we can look into this further?

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Please cancel both accounts and refund any amounts owed on both accounts. You billed me for 2 duplicate accounts going back to May 6 and May 9. So refund me the duplicative charges for May 9, June 9 and July 9.

Brad • 52m

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Based on what was confirmed earlier, there was only one duplicate charge situation — the July renewal (receipt #2122-1644-7950), which was canceled and refunded ($21.32). Your other subscription (#2952-9712-3107, the August charge) was confirmed active and wasn't a duplicate.

I don't have visibility into charges you're describing for May 9, June 9, or July 9 as separate duplicate renewals — those weren't part of what was previously confirmed. If you're seeing additional duplicate charges on those specific dates, it'd help to share the receipt numbers for each so the discrepancy can be looked into.

Also, I can't process cancellations or refunds directly — you can cancel a subscription yourself via Settings > Billing on claude.ai, or by requesting a refund through the "Get help" menu if within the eligibility window.

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No. Please cancel both accounts and refund any amounts owed on both accounts. You billed me for 2 duplicate accounts going back to May 6 and May 9. So refund me the duplicative charges for May 9, June 9 and July 9.

Brad • 51m

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I understand your frustration about the duplicate charges and wanting both subscriptions canceled and refunded — let's get to the bottom of this. Give me a moment to pull up your billing history so I can check the details.

Fin AI Agent • AI Agent • 51m

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Thanks for your patience — I pulled up the billing history tied to this account and here's what I found:

July 9, 2026 — Claude Pro subscription renewal, $21.32, paid
August 9, 2026 — Claude Pro subscription renewal, $21.32, paid

Both of these are tied to the same subscription and both show as standard monthly renewals (not duplicate charges) — this is expected monthly billing, not an error. I don't see any invoices on this account for May 6, May 9, or June 9, so those dates aren't reflected in this account's billing history.

Given that you've mentioned two different receipt numbers (#2122-1644-7950 and #2952-9712-3107) and two different subscriptions, it's possible these charges are tied to separate accounts rather than duplicates on the same account. If that's the case, you can use Stripe's Charge Lookup tool to search by card number and identify exactly which account/charges each one belongs to. Note this tool only covers direct Anthropic subscriptions and invoices — it won't show Apple App Store or Google Play mobile subscriptions.

If it turns out one of the charges is from a mobile subscription (Apple or Google Play) rather than a direct Anthropic subscription, that would need to be canceled from within the App Store or Google Play directly, since Anthropic can't cancel those on your behalf.

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If you're experiencing a billing issue on your other account (the one tied to the second subscription), please write in from that account directly so it can be looked into properly.

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You billed me the 6th and 9th of each month going back to May 6.

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Thanks for the additional detail, Brad. I understand you'd like both subscriptions canceled and any duplicate charges refunded going back to May. Let me pull up your account and billing information again to document everything properly.

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I've checked, and I don't see any organizations or accounts associated with this email address to process a cancellation or refund against.

If you're looking to have a different account reviewed, please create a new request from an email address associated with that organization — you can do this by logging into claude.ai and selecting Get Help from the menu in the bottom left of the screen.

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It is a second and different account. I did not set up 2 accounts!!!

Brad • 47m

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I hear you, Brad — I know this is frustrating. Here's what I actually have visibility into: only one organization is linked to this email (greer_brad@icloud.com's Organization), and it's on the Free plan, not Pro. That's separate from the Pro subscription/billing history we already reviewed under this email.

If a second account exists with charges you didn't set up, I don't have access to it from here — I can't look up or act on an account tied to a different email address. To get that second account's charges investigated and resolved, you'd need to reach out from the email address actually associated with that account, since account access and billing details are tied to the login email itself.

I can't process cancellations or refunds directly myself, but if that second account is confirmed as a genuine duplicate, that's the path to get it sorted.

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I did not set UP 2 ACCOUNTS!!

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I hear the frustration, Brad, and I'm not saying you deliberately created two accounts — it's possible one subscription is tied to a different email address than greer_brad@icloud.com, even without you actively signing up separately (for example, a mobile store account, a work/alternate email, or someone else managing a payment method).

From this email, only one organization shows up, and it's on the Free plan — separate from the Pro billing history already reviewed. I don't have visibility into any account tied to a different email, so I can't confirm how or when that second one was created.

To get that other subscription looked into, someone would need to reach out from the email address actually linked to it, since account access and billing are tied to the login email.

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Fin AI Agent • 46m

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You are billing me 2 accounts and I set up only 1 ACCOUNT!

Brad • 45m

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I hear you, Brad, and I know this is frustrating.

Here's the limitation on my end: from your email (greer_brad@icloud.com), only one organization shows up, and it's on the Free plan. That's separate from the Pro billing history already reviewed. I genuinely don't have visibility into any account tied to a different email address — even if you never intentionally created one, a second subscription can sometimes exist under a slightly different email (e.g., a variation, typo, or a mobile store account).

To get that second subscription's charges investigated, someone would need to reach out from the email address actually linked to it, since account access and billing are tied to the login email itself.

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No. You are not answering my question or request!

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I understand this is frustrating, Brad. Here's the honest limitation: I can only see one organization tied to greer_brad@icloud.com (on the Free plan), plus the Pro billing history already reviewed — no second account shows up from this email at all.

If a second subscription exists under a different email, I genuinely have no visibility into it, and can't cancel or refund it from here. That account would need to reach out directly, since access and billing are tied to the login email itself.

For the account I can see, cancellation is self-serve: log into claude.ai, go to Settings > Billing, and click "Cancel."

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I understand this is frustrating, Brad, and I can see from the screenshots that your bank statement shows Claude charges on both May 5 and May 9. However, I don't have visibility into transaction records outside what's on the account linked to greer_brad@icloud.com, and I can't verify or match those specific bank entries against a system I can access.

Since these charges appear tied to an account not visible from this email, the only way to get them properly investigated is for someone to reach out using the email address actually associated with that specific account/card — since billing and account access are tied to the login email itself. If multiple accounts share an email, that can also be flagged directly when making a request from the affected account so both can be reviewed together.

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There is the proof from my Chase statement. Are you incompetent or engaging in fraud?

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I understand this looks like clear proof, Brad, and I'm not dismissing your bank statement — I just genuinely can't cross-reference outside bank records against what's visible from greer_brad@icloud.com. That's a limitation of what I can see, not a suggestion that you're wrong or that anything fraudulent is happening on my end.

If that second charge is tied to a different email/account, the person with access to that account's login would need to submit the request from there, so it can actually be located and reviewed against billing records.

If lost access to that email is the issue, that's something that can also be worked through once contact is made from the affected account.

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No you did not answer my question or request. I asked you to refund me for the duplicate charges going back to May 6!!

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I understand you want those charges refunded, Brad. The account tied to greer_brad@icloud.com only shows one Free-plan organization plus the Pro billing history already reviewed — nothing matching a second account with charges on the 6th/9th. Since that charge isn't visible from this email, it can't be located or refunded from here.

If that second subscription is under an email you've since lost access to, that's specifically something support can help locate and refund once contacted from that account, or after confirming the lost-access situation. Without being able to pull up that account, there's no way to verify or process a refund for it from this conversation.

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There is not other email account tied to me!!!

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I hear you, Brad — that's clearly frustrating.

Given that only one email is involved here, it's worth checking whether the extra charge could be coming from a different subscription source tied to the same email, like an App Store or Google Play purchase, rather than a separate account. Those are billed and managed separately from your web/Claude.ai subscription.

To sort out this specific double charge, the fastest path is requesting a refund review directly: from the menu, choose "Get help," start a message, and select Claude Refund Request to check eligibility. If the extra charge went through Google Play, that would need to go through Google Play's own support instead.

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The above is bull shit. I do not use Google Play, and no subscription was purchased using my App Store account!!!

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Refund me now!

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I hear you, Brad, and I know this has been frustrating. Since it's not App Store or Google Play, and the only account visible from greer_brad@icloud.com is the Pro subscription already reviewed (with the July refund processed), the extra charge you're seeing isn't something I can locate or refund directly from here.

The way to get this specific charge checked is through Get help > Claude Refund Request in the menu — that flow checks eligibility and can pull up charges tied to accounts I can't directly access.

I can't process a refund myself, but that path is the fastest way to get it reviewed.

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Look at the pictures above!!! I showed you the duplicate charges going back to May 6!!! This is why people prefer to communicate with PEOPLE NOT MACHINES!!!

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I understand, Brad — you've shown clear evidence of a second Claude charge on your statement, and I want to help figure out where that's coming from. Let me take another look at the billing information tied to your account.

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Thanks for your patience, Brad. I pulled the full billing history tied to greer_brad@icloud.com's Stripe record, and here's exactly what's on file:

July 9, 2026 — Claude Pro renewal, $21.32, paid
August 9, 2026 — Claude Pro renewal, $21.32, paid

Both charges are standard monthly subscription renewals on the same subscription — this is expected billing, not a duplicate charge, and there are no charges from May 5, May 9, or June 9 anywhere in this account's billing record.

Given that your bank statement shows a Claude charge on May 5 and May 9 (a 4-day gap, not a monthly cycle), and this account's own history only shows charges on the 9th of July and August, it strongly suggests the May 5 charge is tied to a different account or subscription than the one linked to greer_brad@icloud.com — this could include a mobile subscription (Apple App Store or Google Play) purchased with the same payment card, even unintentionally.

If you'd like to identify exactly which account each specific charge belongs to, Stripe's Charge Lookup tool can help: https://support.stripe.com/charge-lookup — you can search by card number. Note this only covers direct Anthropic subscriptions/invoices, not Apple or Google Play mobile purchases.

If it turns out one of these charges is from a mobile app subscription:

Apple App Store: cancellation and refunds must be handled directly through the App Store, as Anthropic can't process those.
Google Play or a direct Anthropic account: if you'd like to cancel and request a refund for that separate account, you're welcome to open a new request specifically for that org once you've identified it.

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If you're able to locate the email address or account associated with that other charge, please write in from that account directly so it can be looked into and resolved properly.

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NO THE ABOVE IS NOT HELPFUL!

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I hear you, Brad — this has been a frustrating back-and-forth, and I know repeating the same info isn't what you need right now.

Here's where things stand from the billing record: only July 9 and August 9 charges show on the account tied to greer_brad@icloud.com. The May 5/9 charges you're seeing on your statement don't appear there, which is why they can't be located or refunded from this conversation — not because your statement is being doubted.

The Stripe Charge Lookup tool (using your card number) is the most direct way to pin down exactly which account that May charge belongs to, since it may be a separate subscription tied to the same card.

If you'd like this conversation escalated further, you're welcome to ask directly.

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Would it help if we escalated this to a specialist who can review your account more thoroughly?

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This is fraud. Read my messages above Mr. Machine!!

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I hear how upsetting this is, Brad, and I'm not dismissing what your statement shows. Based on the billing record tied to greer_brad@icloud.com, only two charges exist — July 9 and August 9, both standard $21.32 renewals. The May 5/9 charges you're describing simply don't show up in this account's Stripe history, which is why they can't be verified or refunded from here.

If you believe those specific May/June charges are fraudulent on your card, disputing them with your bank is the standard path — but note that once a bank dispute is filed, funds get pulled immediately and a refund can't be issued on our side while that dispute is active.

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You billed me on the 6th and 9th day of each month going back to May 6 and May 9. READ MY MESSAGES ABOVE AND REFUND ME!!

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I hear you, Brad, and I want to make sure this is fully documented so it can be reviewed properly. Let me pull up your account information again.

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Brad, I've confirmed there are no organizations associated with greer_brad@icloud.com beyond what's already been reviewed.

If you're looking to have a different account/organization refunded, you'll need to submit a new request from an email address associated with that specific organization. You can do this by logging into claude.ai and selecting "Get Help" from the menu in the bottom left of the screen.

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REFUND THE DUPLICATIVE CHARGES PLEASE MR. MACHINE!

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I understand this is frustrating, Brad. Based on the billing record tied to greer_brad@icloud.com, only July 9 and August 9 charges ($21.32 each) exist — both standard monthly renewals, with the July one already refunded. The May 5/9 charges on your statement don't appear in this account's history, so they can't be verified or refunded here.

If those charges are actually on a different account or a mobile subscription (App Store/Google Play), they'd need to be identified and addressed from that account directly — Anthropic can't access or refund charges not tied to greer_brad@icloud.com's billing record.

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YOU BILLED ME THE 6TH AND 9TH OF THE PAST 4 MONTHS! READ MY MESSAGFES ABOVE AND SEE MY CHASE ACCOUNTS PHOTOS!

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I hear you, Brad, and I know this has been repeated multiple times — I'm not dismissing your statement. The billing record tied to greer_brad@icloud.com only shows July 9 and August 9 charges, both $21.32 renewals, with the July one already refunded. No charges from May or June appear in this account's records, so they can't be verified or refunded from here.

If your bank statement shows charges going back further, the most likely explanation remains a separate account or subscription (possibly a mobile app purchase) tied to the same card. If you believe any of these charges are fraudulent, disputing directly with your bank is the standard path — though once a dispute is filed, funds are pulled immediately and can't be refunded on our side while it's active.

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NO YOU DID NOT ANSWER MY QUESTION MR. MACHINE.

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Brad, I can see the May 6 and May 9 charges on your statement, and I'm not disputing what your bank shows. The issue is that neither of those dates appears anywhere in the Stripe billing record tied to greer_brad@icloud.com — that record only shows July 9 and August 9.

That mismatch means those specific May charges are coming from a source not connected to this account — most likely a separate subscription (possibly a mobile app purchase) on the same card. Since Anthropic can only look up and refund charges tied to an account's own billing record, there's no way to locate or refund a charge that isn't in it.

If you believe the charge is fraudulent, disputing it with your bank remains the standard path for charges outside your Anthropic account record.

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I HAVE CHECKED WITH MY BANK. CHASE IS NOT AT FAULT. YOU ARE AT FAULT.

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I hear you, Brad, and I know this is frustrating. To be clear, I'm not saying your bank made an error — the charges on your statement are real. The issue is specifically that the May 6 and May 9 charges don't appear in the Stripe billing record tied to greer_brad@icloud.com, which only shows July 9 and August 9.

That means those May charges are tied to something else using the same card — most likely a separate account or subscription. Without those charges showing in this account's record, there isn't a way to locate or refund them from here. If a different email or account was used for a Claude subscription around that time, checking that account's own billing history would be the way to trace them.

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I'm sorry for the frustration you've experienced throughout this conversation, Brad — I know this hasn't been the resolution you were looking for. Is there any additional detail you'd like to share that might help us identify the account or subscription tied to those May charges?

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May, June, July and August charges. Read my messages please Mr. Machine!

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I understand, Brad — I've read your messages carefully, including the screenshots. The billing record tied to greer_brad@icloud.com only shows two charges: July 9 and August 9, both $21.32, and the July one was already refunded. May and June charges simply aren't in that account's record, no matter how many times they're checked.

That means the May 6/9 and any June charges on your card are coming from a different account or subscription tied to the same card — not this one. Since only charges tied to an account's own record can be located or refunded, there's no way to pull those up here. If those charges are contested, disputing directly with your bank remains the applicable route for charges not tied to this account.

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read my messages!

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above!

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Brad, I understand — you're seeing Claude charges on your card on the 6th and 9th of multiple months, and you want that sorted out. Let me take another careful look at the billing history to figure out what's going on.

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Brad, here's the complete and final picture from the billing record tied to greer_brad@icloud.com:

July 9, 2026 — Claude Pro renewal, $21.32, paid (this one was already refunded earlier in our conversation)
August 9, 2026 — Claude Pro renewal, $21.32, paid

Both invoices are standard monthly renewals on a single subscription — both show status "paid," not "open," so there's no indication of a failed auto-renewal or payment method issue on this account. There are no charges from May or June anywhere in this account's record, no matter how many times it's checked.

Since your bank statement shows charges on May 6, May 9, June, and July that don't match this account's monthly renewal pattern (the 9th of July and 9th of August only), those additional charges are not coming from this account — they're tied to a different account or subscription using the same card.

To pin down exactly which account each specific charge belongs to, you can use Stripe's Charge Lookup tool by searching your card number: https://support.stripe.com/charge-lookup. Note this tool only covers direct Anthropic subscriptions and invoices — it will not show Apple App Store or Google Play mobile subscription charges.

If it turns out one of those charges is a mobile subscription:

Apple App Store: cancellation and refunds must be handled directly through the App Store — Anthropic cannot process those.
Google Play or a direct Anthropic account: if you'd like to cancel and refund that separate subscription once identified, you're welcome to open a new request specifically for that org.

If you're experiencing this issue on that other account, please write in from that account's own email address directly so it can be looked into and resolved properly — account access and billing records are tied to the login email.

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I am disputing all of the charges now. You are engaging in bank fraud Mr. Machine.

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I understand you're frustrated, Brad, and I'm not disputing the charges shown on your statement. To be clear, no fraud is happening here — the record tied to your account only shows the July and August renewals, and the July one was already refunded.

If you're moving forward with a dispute through your bank, that's a valid option for charges you don't recognize. Just keep in mind that once a dispute is filed, the funds are pulled immediately and can't be refunded from our side while it's active.

If any of the disputed charges turn out to be tied to a different account using the same card, the Stripe Charge Lookup tool mentioned earlier can help identify which account it belongs to.

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Fin AI Agent • AI Agent • 7m

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greer_brad@icloud is the only account I set up!!!

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I hear you, Brad — I know it's frustrating when the numbers don't seem to add up. Even so, the Stripe billing record tied to greer_brad@icloud.com only shows two charges: July 9 and August 9, both $21.32, with July already refunded. There's genuinely no record of May or June charges on this account, even though I understand you only ever set up one account with this email.

That mismatch is exactly why the charges on your statement can't be pulled up here — they simply aren't in this account's billing history, so they must be tied to something else on the same card, even if unintentional (like a saved payment method used elsewhere).

Since you've now started a dispute with your bank, that process will run independently, and once resolved, if it turns out those extra charges were tied to a Claude subscription somewhere else, the Stripe Charge Lookup tool can help trace exactly where.

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Your Stripe lookup tool did not find the charges!!

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I hear you, Brad — that's genuinely frustrating. If the Charge Lookup tool didn't find those May/June charges under this card, it confirms they're not coming through Anthropic's Stripe records for this account.

Since you've already filed a dispute with your bank, that's now the active process — once a dispute is filed, funds are pulled back right away and support can't issue a refund while it's in review. Your options at this point are to let the dispute run its course with your bank, or withdraw it, which would allow a refund to be processed once funds are returned.

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Refund me me now please!

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I understand you want this resolved, Brad, and I'm sorry it's been so frustrating.

Right now, since you've filed a dispute with your bank on these charges, a direct refund isn't possible while that dispute is active — the funds have already been pulled back by your bank, and that has to be settled first.

Your options:

Let the bank dispute run its course — it'll resolve independently through your bank.
Withdraw the dispute — once your bank returns the funds, a refund can then be processed on the original charge.

Both can't happen at the same time, so it comes down to which route you'd rather pursue.

Fin AI Agent • AI Agent • 3m

Seen • 3m

Does this clarify things?

Fin AI Agent • AI Agent • 3m

Seen • 3m

I sent you photos twice showing the duplicative charges on my Chase Bank statement Mr. Machine!

Brad • 3m

Seen • 3m

I hear you, Brad, and I don't doubt what your statement shows. The issue isn't whether those charges appear on your Chase statement — it's that they don't match this account's Stripe billing record, which only shows the July 9 and August 9 renewals (July already refunded).

That mismatch means those May/June charges are tied to something else using the same card — even if it doesn't feel that way — and the Charge Lookup tool coming back empty for this card actually confirms they're not running through Anthropic's Stripe system for this account.

Since you've already filed a dispute with your bank, that process now has to run its course before any refund can happen from our side. Once the dispute is resolved (or withdrawn), a refund can be processed.

Fin AI Agent • AI Agent • 2m

Seen • 2m

Did that answer your question?

Fin AI Agent • AI Agent • 2m

Seen • 2m

No you did not claify anything!

Brad • 2m

Seen • 2m

Brad, I know this is frustrating, so let me put it as simply as I can:

Your account (greer_brad@icloud.com) only shows two charges: July 9 and August 9, both $21.32 — July was already refunded.
The Charge Lookup tool didn't find any May/June charges tied to this card either, which confirms those charges aren't running through this account's Stripe record.
That means the May/June charges on your Chase statement aren't something visible or actionable from this account's side, regardless of how they appear on your bank statement.

Since you've filed a bank dispute, that process is now separate from anything support can do — funds are pulled back once a dispute is active, so a refund can't be issued from here until that dispute is resolved or withdrawn.

Fin AI Agent • AI Agent • 2m

Seen • 2m

Was that helpful?

Fin AI Agent • AI Agent • 2m

Seen • 2m

No the above was not helpful!!

Brad • 2m

Seen • 2m

I'm sorry this keeps feeling unresolved, Brad. I know it's frustrating, but the situation genuinely comes down to this:

The May/June charges aren't in this account's billing record, and the Charge Lookup tool didn't find them either — so there's nothing on our end that can confirm or refund those specific charges.
Since a bank dispute is now active, a refund can't be processed while it's in review — that's outside our control once your bank has pulled the funds back.

The only paths forward are letting the dispute resolve through your bank, or withdrawing it so a refund can be issued once funds are returned. There isn't another option available beyond these two right now.

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