u/Comfortable_Lab7366

Vanquisher rank and Elphelt makes me upset and sad

I just wanna rant rq

I consider myself decent at the game. I have exactly 400 hours atm and played since s1. When ranked mode dropped I got vanquisher the first week after placing plat 2 with Elphelt. Took me a ton of games but I did that and got very burnt out.

I hopped on other fighting games between the end of september to the start of 2.0 since I was waiting for the next change to strive before hopping back on. I didnt like the balance of the game during all of s4 tbh especially bulkier characters just being overtuned af.

I tried some jam out at the beginning of the patch and was having a great time in diamond, but I thought I should hop back on Elphelt and gun for 1600 DR or at least top 50. Last I played I was hovering around the high 1400s low 1500s.

I was hoping that the balance changes to the game would fix the problems I did have with last season, however they seemed to not change at all for my character much. I still find she has dogshit matchups against most of the cast. I am still whittling away at characters who can do 80% off one combo. The nerf to bomb and change to out of repair really made her feel clunky. Despite this I am trying to persist.

I have yet to find myself go on a "win streak" but many losing streaks. I started off strong and stayed in the 1480-1510 range, even tho I was shaking the rust off, and believe I have a roughly 48% WR this season, but I have dropped from 1500 - the low 1400s and have dipped to 1380 once or twice. I hop on, have some close matches, and then at a certain point just lose like 3 sets in a row. I then claw back up to roughly were I was before and it repeats. The clawing up isnt even win streaks its 2-1 sets or people who are just 50+ my points giving me more. And as soon as I am back to 1460 or 1470, Nago Pot Nago Leo Ky Anji in a row and back down to 1420s.

This character feels like she is getting punished for doing stuff that other characters can still do. Rekka no longer HKDs off of "nailed it", but Unkia still has hkd off of both her high/low options, you can do both raw as well and dont have a mid starter to let the enemy know "its high low time" along with a lot of damage. The biggest difference is Unika's high/low is not a true 50/50 while elphelt's is, but I would rather take scum dipper and a hkd overhead than tickle monster rekka that doesnt reward you unless you have RC. For the record I dont think Unika is OP I am just making the comparison between her mixup and Elphelts, I feel this way similarly with Slayer and Anji, along with some options like johnny's mist finer mix for example.

At this point I just want to give up on my main. She got me my first C floor, I love her visual design, but she is just not fun to play as for me right now and most of the community doest gaf because she is also annoying especially in lower ranks. I hate how her entire balance is centralized around this one move that is uninteresting for the player and not really interactive for the opponent so they make the rest of the kit worse to compensate. She has shitty hp, mid neutral, no defensive options outside of a stubby 2p(that was affected by a universal nerf this patch) and decent 6p, and she does a mid amount of damage for strive. Imma give her a bit longer but I really might just stop playin her until the next big patch.

Regarding the losing streak, MU knowledge, and actual matches, I still have a lot to learn but I feel fuckin washed and chopped and unc and fell off and cooked whenever I play currently. It is hard to enjoy the game when all it does is make you upset as soon as you play more than 5 sets. And i really dont know why this game makes me soo upset vs others. When I was on Tekken 8 during my strive break I never felt like this. When I play deadlock or overwatch I get annoyed at teammates sometimes but never like actually fully upset. Maybe cause I feel like Strive is one of the games I am actually proficient in and I am not living up to my own standards. I feel like such a fraud for dippin below 1400 at one point, I feel like such a fraud for wanting to switch my main, I feel like such a fraud when I lose against an opponent I have already downloaded or I know is playing worse than me but the tilt makes me play bad and I end up losing.

Anyways I just wanted to rant after a stressful session because I cant keep this poison in me, feel free to say "FUCK YOUR CHARACTER" below I understand that feeling

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u/Comfortable_Lab7366 — 1 day ago

Nago is not nearly getting as much hate as he deserves

I have been playing this game since it came out and I deadass cannot remember a time he wasn't S tier

Current iteration Nago feels like boss arcade mode. Roundstart you gotta just let him do his stuff because unless your character is insanely blessed you will eat a ch roundstart special and expload

He then gets to run his insane pressure on you for free, watch out for the throws that refresh his bar but dont watch out for it too much because then you will die instantly. Hope you know the exact fuzzy jump timing and arent playing on any delay and are 100% locked in the entire match

Once he is done spazzing all over the place you then get to play against max range Nago, hope you have a lot of hp because fs and 2h will do 40% of your life and pray that you dont get hkd or he doesnt have bar (he does) because then 5h even otg will kill you after

And even if he missplays and pops blood in his combo, it doesnt break wall it actually sets you up to die so he can do more damage on a wallbreak because I think characters should be rewarded for overusing their resources, plus with credit card install now just run at them with all your blood possible because you will probably wall splat them before your install runs out anyways and the game will be over

Fuck this slobbering carried character man, no consequences all actions

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u/Comfortable_Lab7366 — 4 days ago

Why is Elphelt punished for doing shit that multiple characters can do better

I'm losing fuckin hair. Been playing Jam and having fun in diamond but thought "I should hop back on vanquisher Elphelt" and I am just upset man.

I get she is annoying, I dont want this character to be top tier at all. I agree that some nerfs are healthy, bomb vest being permanent needed to go but could they have given her anything besides side grades while killing her off?

Bomb Bomb Chocolate used to be fun, the best and most creative part of her kit, and good. It is now none of those things.

Her rekka doesnt hkd anymore, it is finally gapless but OOPS they forgot that everything that goes into rekka is reversable some way either 6p dp or overdrive, plus half the roster can just backdash throw it in the corner. Again as well, unless elphelt has bar or you are getting hit by the "here I go" it is just a return to neutral which is not where elphelt wants to be. I really wish they would just do a Ram and change how rekka works like they did with her swords cause you cant even talk about her without it being centered around people making it into how OP it COULD be. Fuckin potential woman "just wait until she gets buffed" like use your head.

Her nuetral is still pretty ass, fs and 2h are really good in theory but ob all their follow ups are 6pable by the whole cast, fs into 5h has whiffed and got me killed ON HIT before (as in I hit the fs but the 5h doesnt connect after somehow), and even regarding her fs it is frame 11 which doesnt sound like a lot but not having a f10 punish outside of k range is a big deal when people actually know what they are doing. Bomb USED to supplement this but now it kills all your momentum and unless you are breathing on them it wont lead into anything really anymore.

New gun is useless in combos and is at best niche. New out of repair is worse as fuck I would rather have the fucked weird frame data it had previously than the -4 ob no reward on hit version it is now.

Her entire kit feels clunky and full of gaps, her rewards on hit are low and the risk she needs to take to even get in on an opponent that knows what they are doing (diamond +) is weighted against you. Even if you hit them with your rekka you are spending RC which fucks your meter gain post wall break, but other characters put you in shit like that and it either hkds into oki or it just combos for free and its no problem.

She has one of the worst MU spreads in the game, she wins against like Asuka Dizzy Venom but not as hard anymore because of bomb nerfs, she wins against faust, equal against Gio, and its grim against everyone else honestly. Anyone with a dp shuts her down hard, anyone with high hp can just steal the game off of 1 interaction because for some reason the bulkiest characters also do the most damage like MAKE it make sense, and then weird in between characters like slayer are in theory even but that match up is pretty much "Play perfectly as elphelt" vs "win one interaction as slayer".

Besides having a true 50/50 on block (that again, doesnt reward you with shit unless you have bar):

Anji is elphelt but better in every way, rekkas you into hkd or loops the situation, far better defensive and offesnive tools, high damage and high hp

Slayer is elphelt but better in every way, mixes you that you can AT BEST OS 3/4 options, 80% damage combo off of any CH or if he has RC, far better neutral skip, hand of doom on defense (where is elphelt's meterless reversal since we just givin em to anyone?).

LEO LITTERALLY GOT A BOMB BOMB CHOCOLATE ESQ MOVE THIS PATCH, HAS A ONE BUTTON DP, HIGH HEALTH, INSANE DAMAGE, AND FUCKIN MIXES THE SHIT OUT OF YOU OB INTO A COMBO WITHOUT RC ON HIT.

I really hope she gets something. Rework, actual buffs, something. Again I dont think this character should be top tier (and she never has been) but making her completely clunky and unfun and then buffing the most boring part of her kit is not fun for anyone involved. I hope they give her the Ram treatment with a soft rework at some point, maybe between the huge gap from robo ky to character 3, but in the meantime I think for my health I gotta stop playing her. It feels like I am playing 3.0 Elphelt while everyone is on the 2.0 version of their character (s4 still for nago leo gl pot anji)

Best song best character best fit best thighs, but not very fun the last two patches sadly. bring back 3.5phelt, imma lab more jam or maybe just say fuck it and pick unika cause im sick of holding myself back with knowledge check gimmik deluxe bottom 8 the character.

I may turn to fuckin Nago cause like honestly why do I fuckin do this to myself just pick the carried character that actually does damage.

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u/Comfortable_Lab7366 — 4 days ago