u/Complete_Turnip816

Pacifism is not an original Hindu concept. But one that entered from Buddhism and Jainism. Veer Bhogya Vasundhara.

Vedic Tribes used to raid for cattle. And ancient kings needed no justification to wage wars other than establishing their power. A King could wage war for conquest of obtaining tribute.

He could wage war in the name of the Dig Vijaya or Ashwamedha.

The later concepts of pacifism was introduced only after the sramanic movements became popular

u/Complete_Turnip816 — 4 months ago

Bharat mata is a secular figure

Edit : Before more morons come quoting Ramayana, the shloka you're about to write is not found in the original Valmiki Ramayana and it is also an 18th century innovation. It says land of birth anyway not motherland

The objections to chanting the name of Bharat Mata comes from the misconception that it is a Hindu godess but in reality it has nothing to do with Hinduism. It is as secular as uncle Sam, the creators just coopted Hindu imagery.

Furthermore in ancient India, the land wasn't seen as a mother or something you owed loyalty to. You owed loyalty to dharma and your king. And the king is the master of the land often taking titles that reflect their lordship over the earth (Bhupati, avanishvara). They often poetically describe the earth as the bride of the king won through conquests. Other stories from the Hindu mythology reflect powerful king extracting resources from the earth with his strength of arms (the story of prithu)

u/Complete_Turnip816 — 5 months ago
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A myth that needs to end

This is a persistent myth that both some "nationalists" and liberals still keeps promoting despite historical evidence being against it.

The reason most Indian kingdoms didn't invade outside was geographic barriers and the lack of economic incentives not some moral superiority of pacifism.

Look at the borders of the subcontinent. To the west barren mountains of Hindu Kush, to the North, the mighty Himalayas, and beyond that barren plains of Tibet, to the east the Jungles of Burma and to the south thousands of miles of ocean.

And despite all of this, Indian kingdoms have invaded outside when there was an incentive

u/Complete_Turnip816 — 5 months ago

Danish had a small colony in south India. They tried to expand following the footsteps of their fellow Europeans but was immediately quashed by the Maratha kingdom of Tanjavur.

u/Complete_Turnip816 — 6 months ago

People are simping for Ottomans after watching their TV shows. Meanwhile it was the Indian army that practically ended their empire in WW1 yet hardly anyone in India knows about it.

u/Complete_Turnip816 — 6 months ago