u/Confident_Promise_74

I've posted here before, that especially my mum made comments about going back to the meetings in personal or at least via zoom.

Today she called me and asked my how i feel etc. And she told me a bit about the holidays until she said:" Oh and btw...how was the meeting yesterday?"

I told her:" I wasn't there."

Mum: "Why were you not there? I thought you could've told me about Brothers XY talk?"

Me: "I'm still in pain mum. My operation is just about two weeks ago!"

Mum: "But why didn't you dial in via zoom?"

Me: "Because i slept? Maybe?"

Mum: "Oh okay. Right. Then i will not bother you anymore"

I thought our religion is based on "Volunterly" and "Love". And i am so happy that the lovly and caring eldest or members phoned me (let me check phonebook) not even ONCE to ask me how recovery went or if they can help me with something...worldwide brotherhood my ass.

I need your help! I am PIMO, and my wife is a hardcore PIMI. However, tonight she asked me how Neanderthals fit into the Bible's timeline.

​I initially replied that it depends on the interpretation (fundamentalist, creationist, etc.). She interrupted me and asked: 'Well, how do we interpret it?' I explained that our beliefs are essentially 'Old-Earth Creationism.'

​She then suggested that Neanderthals might be descendants of Shem (Noah’s son?) and argued that Carbon-14 dating isn't accurate anyway.

​I countered by explaining that C-14 dating is actually very reliable, especially for more recent finds, and that 'inaccuracy' usually means a margin of error between 40,000 and 50,000 years—not a jump down to 4,000 years.

​I offered to compare our publications with scientific facts this coming Sunday. Does anyone have a scientific breakdown of the 'Origin of Life' (orange) brochure? Or any specific notes on how it misrepresents science?

​I feel like this could be the first step in helping her wake up from the Borg!

I’m so happy I found this subreddit. I finally feel like someone actually understands what I’m going through.

​I had surgery last week and will be dependent on help for the next two weeks. My wife (PIMI) is supporting me well enough so far. However, my parents and in-laws are putting extreme pressure on me to return to the meetings soon, or at least to dial in via Zoom. When I told them that I’m on long-term sick leave for a reason, they said they "understand," but followed up with: "It’s also about your spiritual health, which is why you need to get back to the meetings as soon as possible." They even offered to drive me, since I’m not allowed to drive for six weeks anyway.

​They know I’m in therapy for "burnout," but in reality, I’m being treated for religious trauma and depression. The funny (or sad) part is that my mom told me please not to mention to my therapist that I’m a JW, so that I don't get "pulled away from the truth." 😅

​As for the brothers in the congregation: only one single person checked in to see how my surgery went. Meanwhile, two different brothers have already reached out to ask if I’m going out in service with them this month (Hello? I can barely stand upright?!). I was even asked if I wanted to take over the "privilege" of opening the windows for the meeting this Wednesday. 😅

Something funny as well: I had a great relationship with the nurses. When my family picked me up, they said: 'They seemed so friendly and actually sad that you’re leaving. Did you tell them you’re a JW?'

I just thought: 'WTF, no way!' I’m just being nice. It’s not because of the religion; it’s just me being me despite the cult.

In our local WhatsApp Group of the congregation, an eldest posted this link: https://www.jw.borg/en/news/region/norway/Court-of-Appeal-Unanimously-Overturns-Unconstitutional-Ruling-in-Norway/

Unanimously?! I thought it was a 3-2 decicsion? Now they are talking about just three judges? That's the cherry on top for me. I'll definetly leave as soon as i find the strenght and mental health to do it.

Wherr can i find a news website from norway or the us or uk where they report about the decision? I couldn't find anything on BBC