If you could create a universe in which Cindy had never been locked in the bunker (where pheromones do not exist) and had become the first superhero with spider powers —working alongside Peter—, how would you do it?
▲ 139 r/Silk

If you could create a universe in which Cindy had never been locked in the bunker (where pheromones do not exist) and had become the first superhero with spider powers —working alongside Peter—, how would you do it?

Suppose the plot of 'The Inheritors' doesn't exist; both start as teenage heroes with their own personality flaws: Cindy, who (according to Thompson) had a complicated relationship with her family during her teenage years, before college; and Peter, who was much more withdrawn and moody. How would you approach that?

u/Consistent_Boss_9397 — 13 days ago

Friendships that could easily be compared to a gay couple.

  • Jonny Storm / Peter Parker: They have been friends for years, but it's a running joke among fans that if they were to date, Johnny would be Peter's least toxic relationship. Sue once made a joke that Johnny thinks about Peter more than anyone else, which he didn't find funny.
  • Booster Gold / Blue Beetle: At first, they couldn't stand each other, but they became as close as brothers. In fact, when Blue Beetle died, Booster was upset by how other heroes attended the funeral despite many of them never taking his warnings seriously in life.
  • Cassandra Cain / Stephanie Brown: Just like Johnny and Peter, these two are heavily shipped by the fandom. They are best friends, and Stephanie was the first true friend Cass ever made. They are like sisters and would give their lives for one another.
u/Consistent_Boss_9397 — 23 days ago
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Does anyone else feel like Marvel backtracked on the whole idea of ​​Cindy being the "Chosen One" of the Web of Life and Destiny after Peter? Because it seems like Marvel keeps writing Peter as the Chosen One, leaving Cindy on the sidelines.

Silk as a character was supposed to take on the role of the Chosen One when Peter was severed from the Web of Life and Destiny in the End of the Spider-Verse event. According to the mythology created by Dan Slott, Earth-616's Peter and Cindy are the most important spiders in the universe. But let's be honest: out of all the Spider-Verse events, Silk has only truly been relevant in a single event—and that was the very same one where it was stated that the role of the Chosen One would now fall on her instead of Peter. Yet, in the end, her solution was just to track down Peter so he could fix the entire problem.

Silk did absolutely nothing in the only event where they claimed she was now crucial to the Web of Life and Destiny. She wasn't even the truly important figure; Peter was. All she did was find Peter. That whole thing about her being the center of the Web makes no sense anymore because they literally haven't shown it; Slott just said it, but she has done nothing to earn that title. The one who literally solved all of their multiversal problems has almost always been Peter. Since that event ended, every other writer has continued to use Peter as the center of the Web of Life and Destiny, not Cindy. In the Venomverse vs Spider-Verse event and subsequent spiderverse events, the Web of Life and Destiny literally chose Peter right in front of her; it didn't even consider her as its Chosen One, it just picked Peter and cast Cindy aside.

And that's not all: although many consider Morlun to be Cindy's greatest enemy, he doesn't care about her at all; his vendetta is strictly against Peter. He isn't even aware of Cindy's existence—she simply hates him—but Morlun is entirely focused on getting revenge on Spider-Man, the only one who has ever defeated him.

Cindy exists within the Spider-Verse, but Marvel is not going to use her as their Chosen One because, frankly, they have done much more with Peter in the Spider-Verse than they ever have with Cindy.

u/Consistent_Boss_9397 — 1 month ago

Does anyone else feel like Marvel backtracked on the whole idea of ​​Cindy being the "Chosen One" of the Web of Life and Destiny after Peter? Because it seems like Marvel keeps writing Peter as the Chosen One, leaving Cindy on the sidelines.

Silk as a character was supposed to take on the role of the Chosen One when Peter was severed from the Web of Life and Destiny in the End of the Spider-Verse event. According to the mythology created by Dan Slott, Earth-616's Peter and Cindy are the most important spiders in the universe. But let's be honest: out of all the Spider-Verse events, Silk has only truly been relevant in a single event—and that was the very same one where it was stated that the role of the Chosen One would now fall on her instead of Peter. Yet, in the end, her solution was just to track down Peter so he could fix the entire problem.

Silk did absolutely nothing in the only event where they claimed she was now crucial to the Web of Life and Destiny. She wasn't even the truly important figure; Peter was. All she did was find Peter. That whole thing about her being the center of the Web makes no sense anymore because they literally haven't shown it; Slott just said it, but she has done nothing to earn that title. The one who literally solved all of their multiversal problems has almost always been Peter. Since that event ended, every other writer has continued to use Peter as the center of the Web of Life and Destiny, not Cindy. In the Venomverse vs Spider-Verse event and subsequent spiderverse events, the Web of Life and Destiny literally chose Peter right in front of her; it didn't even consider her as its Chosen One, it just picked Peter and cast Cindy aside.

And that's not all: although many consider Morlun to be Cindy's greatest enemy, he doesn't care about her at all; his vendetta is strictly against Peter. He isn't even aware of Cindy's existence—she simply hates him—but Morlun is entirely focused on getting revenge on Spider-Man, the only one who has ever defeated him.

Cindy exists within the Spider-Verse, but Marvel is not going to use her as their Chosen One because, frankly, they have done much more with Peter in the Spider-Verse than they ever have with Cindy.

u/Consistent_Boss_9397 — 1 month ago

I know the current run is divisive and not the best, but I’m worried about the next issue, where the relationship between Peter and Felicia is said to be likely ruined again—and because of Felicia, according to the previews.

u/Consistent_Boss_9397 — 1 month ago
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My opinion on Cindy's current status and how, unfortunately, Marvel Doesn’t Know What to Do with Silk

We all know that currently, Cindy is by far the most childish of all the Spider-People of Earth-616, unfortunately. This is taking into account that she is at a similar age to Peter and Jessica. Many would say Peter, but at least when you read his comics, he looks for a job and tries to have a life of his own before the publishers ruin it; Cindy does not. A critique I have regarding more recent comics is that all her development was lost; she is in a band with two teenage girls, and basically only exists in Gwen's comics just as a secondary character who doesn't even fight as a hero, she is just a bystander. Where does that leave Cindy Moon? It seems that since she doesn't have a clear role as an independent adult, the editorial team decided to shove her into the "Arachno Academy" of Spider-Versity alongside teenagers and children under the mentorship of Norman Osborn (which, let's be honest, making Norman a mentor was probably one of the reasons that comic failed). The thing is, while it's true she has much less experience than Peter and Jessica, throwing a twenty-something-year-old character into a school dynamic with 9-year-old kids inevitably degrades her writing. Cindy is a person who suddenly has to live in a world that continued without her; even though Peter or Jameson try to help her, she doesn't know how to be an adult. But little by little she does it, she puts in the effort, and she becomes an adult in a world that moved on without her. She gains maturity as a character and, when she finds her father and her brother, she connects with her family, makes friends, and grows as a character, learning how to be an adult. This current regression is a clear case of editorial laziness, where Marvel keeps recycling the "fish out of water" trope. Thompson had already resolved her trauma and her social awkwardness through therapy and growth, but modern writers lazily reset her maturity just to keep using her original status quo as a crutch.

Unfortunately, in later comics, something happened that I didn’t like, and that is that they focused too much on her Korean heritage, sidelining Cindy Moon as a character. She became just a Korean heroine. However, that wasn’t as much of a problem because she still acted like an adult, maintaining the development that Thompson gave her—her friendship with Peter, her connections, her new relationship with Jameson, and even trying to fix her family. This highlights a superficial approach to her character; while cultural representation is great, Marvel started using it as a substitute for real substance and complex storytelling, completely ignoring the hard-fought adult growth she had already achieved.

Regrettably, she has become a secondary character to Spider-Gwen, which is a terrible fate for this character. Remember how I said she wanted to discover what kind of adult she was? That disappeared. She joined a band with two teenagers, and out of all of them, she was the most immature. Look, it’s fine to have hobbies, but the problem is that it feels like it came out of nowhere—because it did come out of nowhere. Not only that, but after that, we got Spider-Versity.

It’s a frankly terrible comic that Spider-Man fans hated, and fans of Silk, Miles, Anya, and Gwen didn't like either. But Silk's treatment here was heavily criticized, and with good reason. There were literally two 9-year-old kids who were written as way more mature than Silk. Out of all the characters, Cindy was by far the most childish person in that story; she only existed to get overly excited about things and that was it, on top of making jokes that just weren't funny. This stems from a severe over-saturation of characters in the Spider-office. Since Peter and Jessica are the veterans, Miles and Gwen are the young adults, and characters like Spider-Boy are the kids, Marvel didn't know where to put Cindy. By forcing a twenty-something woman into a school academy dynamic, the narrative naturally degraded her. They intentionally write the kids to be clever and competent, which forces Silk into being a flat, overly excited comic relief just to fill a spot on the team.

I don't think I'm the only one who thinks Cindy's current status is awful. Out of all the Spider-heroes, I believe she is the one in the absolute worst spot right now. Spider-Versity only served to prove that, for the time being, the editorial team has no idea what to do with her. It’s genuinely sad to see her character treated this way.

u/Consistent_Boss_9397 — 1 month ago

Spider-Versity is one of Marvel's lowest-selling comics this year, and none of its issues made the top 100 best-sellers. What do you think was the problem with this comic and how did it treat Miles?

We all know that Spider-Versity is a bad story where, in order for other characters like Miles, Anya, Gwen, or Cindy to work, they basically whitewash Norman and make him their mentor. Needless to say, it wasn't just Spider-Man and Miles Morales fans who disliked it, but fans of those characters as well.

Many expected Peter and Jessica to take on the role of mentors, but most fans were annoyed that they treated Miles and the others like children and kept saying how great Norman was compared to Peter. Furthermore, his redemption is a controversial topic these days because he was basically brainwashed, and his redemption wasn't earned. As Miles fans, what do you think of this comic? The latest issue, the most anticipated one, is in position 212, which means almost no one bought or read it.

And none of the other comics sold well either.

In my case, I didn't like that Norman trained them; it made more sense that it was Jessica or Peter, who are the most experienced Spider-People. That, and the fact that Miles has much more experience than in this comic, where all the characters have been heroes for years, while many don't face a major threat, they've already fought the Inheritors. The fact that they're all a joke in this comic is annoying.

u/Consistent_Boss_9397 — 1 month ago
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Spider-Versity is one of Marvel's lowest-selling comics this year, and none of its issues made the top 100 best-sellers. What do you think was the problem with this comic and how did it treat Cindy?

We all know that Spider-Versity is a bad story where, in order for other characters like Miles, Anya, Gwen, or Cindy to work, they basically whitewash Norman and make him their mentor. Needless to say, it wasn't just Spider-Man and Miles Morales fans who disliked it, but fans of those characters as well.

Many expected Peter and Jessica to take on the role of mentors, but most fans were annoyed that they treated Cindy and the others like children and kept saying how great Norman was compared to Peter. Furthermore, his redemption is a controversial topic these days because he was basically brainwashed, and his redemption wasn't earned. As Silk fans, what do you think of this comic? The latest issue, the most anticipated one, is in position 212, which means almost no one bought or read it.

u/Consistent_Boss_9397 — 1 month ago