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𐑲𐑥 𐑩 𐑚𐑦𐑑 𐑤𐑱𐑑 𐑑 𐑞 𐑐𐑸𐑑𐑦! 𐑢𐑲𐑤 u/Chia_____ 𐑢𐑪𐑟 𐑐𐑴𐑕𐑑𐑦𐑙 𐑣𐑻 𐑣𐑪𐑤𐑦𐑛𐑱 𐑓𐑴𐑑𐑴𐑟 𐑤𐑭𐑕𐑑 𐑥𐑳𐑯𐑔, 𐑲 𐑢𐑪𐑟 𐑬𐑑 𐑑𐑱𐑒𐑦𐑙 𐑕𐑳𐑥 𐑐𐑦𐑒𐑗𐑼𐑟 𐑥𐑲𐑕𐑧𐑤𐑓. 𐑢𐑪𐑟 𐑐𐑤𐑨𐑯𐑦𐑙 𐑪𐑯 𐑐𐑴𐑕𐑑𐑦𐑙 𐑞𐑧𐑥 𐑨𐑑 𐑞 𐑑𐑲𐑥 𐑑𐑵, 𐑚𐑳𐑑 𐑢𐑧𐑯𐑑 𐑯 𐑓𐑼𐑜𐑪𐑑 𐑷𐑤 𐑩𐑚𐑬𐑑 𐑦𐑑.

You may have noticed the new banner at the top of the sub and found yourself wondering about its provenance. Well, it’s a snippet from Peter MacCarthy’s original 1960 manuscript for Androcles, which was provided to the Museum of Rural English Life (MERL) by Kingsley Reed, and put on display there in the Sound-writing exhibition in 1972.

𐑿 𐑥𐑱 𐑣𐑨𐑝 𐑯𐑴𐑑𐑦𐑕𐑑 𐑞 𐑯𐑿 𐑚𐑨𐑯𐑼 𐑨𐑑 𐑞 𐑑𐑪𐑐 𐑝 𐑞 𐑕𐑳𐑚 𐑯 𐑓𐑬𐑯𐑛 𐑘𐑹𐑕𐑧𐑤𐑓 𐑢𐑳𐑯𐑛𐑼𐑦𐑙 𐑩𐑚𐑬𐑑 𐑦𐑑𐑕 𐑐𐑮𐑪𐑝𐑩𐑯𐑩𐑯𐑕.  𐑢𐑧𐑤, 𐑦𐑑𐑕 𐑩 𐑕𐑯𐑦𐑐𐑩𐑑 𐑓𐑮𐑪𐑥 ·𐑐𐑰𐑑𐑼 𐑥𐑩𐑒𐑸𐑔𐑦’𐑟 𐑼𐑦𐑡𐑦𐑯𐑩𐑤 1960 𐑥𐑨𐑯𐑘𐑩𐑕𐑒𐑮𐑦𐑐𐑑 𐑓 ·𐑨𐑯𐑛𐑮𐑩𐑒𐑤𐑰𐑟, 𐑢𐑦𐑗 𐑢𐑪𐑟 𐑐𐑮𐑩𐑝𐑲𐑛𐑩𐑛 𐑑 𐑞 ·𐑥𐑿𐑟𐑾𐑥 𐑝 𐑮𐑫𐑼𐑩𐑤 𐑦𐑙𐑜𐑤𐑦𐑖 𐑤𐑲𐑓 (MERL) 𐑚𐑲 𐑒𐑦𐑙𐑟𐑤𐑦 𐑮𐑰𐑛, 𐑯 𐑐𐑫𐑑 𐑪𐑯 𐑛𐑦𐑕𐑐𐑤𐑱 𐑞𐑺 𐑦𐑯 𐑞 ·𐑕𐑬𐑯𐑛-𐑮𐑲𐑑𐑦𐑙 𐑧𐑒𐑕𐑦𐑚𐑦𐑖𐑩𐑯 𐑦𐑯 1972.

I am one of the mods of r/shavian, a community dedicated to the Shavian alphabet, an alternative alphabet for the English language.

Our problem: reddit’s automatic AI based translation butchers Shavian. Its hit or miss, but sometimes it does worse than a poor job of it, producing complete English sentences that have absolutely nothing to do with what the author actually wrote. Complete non-sequitur, real “my hovercraft is full of eels” territory.

This worse-than-bad “translation” is actively undermining our community’s mission of helping new users on their journey of learning the alphabet.

My question: is there a way for us to disable the automatic translation? Or otherwise for Reddit devs to actively disable translation attempts for rare scripts?

A bunch of you had been asking for me to add other keyboard layouts to Shaw-Type, and I’d found myself wanting to play around with different keyboard layouts too, so I have made it possible to edit your own custom keyboard layouts with custom ligatures! You can import and export them, so if you develop one you’re particularly pleased of, you can share it with the rest of the community here too.

To give you some inspiration as a starting point, here’s Marty’s Shaw Fish layout in the Discord Server. It should also be possible to do things like u/Dechifro’s digraph as an entry method.

I had a lot of fun building the editor, and even more fun playing around with the resulting layouts. Please let me know how you get on!

Oh, and the leaderboard is still most definitely a thing that needs you to put your name on it.

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𐑩 𐑚𐑳𐑯𐑗 𐑝 𐑿 𐑣𐑨𐑛 𐑚𐑰𐑯 𐑭𐑕𐑒𐑦𐑙 𐑓 𐑥𐑰 𐑑 𐑨𐑛 𐑳𐑞𐑼 𐑒𐑰𐑚𐑹𐑛 𐑤𐑱𐑬𐑑𐑕 𐑑 ·𐑖𐑰𐑷-𐑑𐑲𐑐, 𐑯 𐑲’𐑛 𐑓𐑬𐑯𐑛 𐑥𐑲𐑕𐑧𐑤𐑓 𐑢𐑪𐑯𐑑𐑦𐑙 𐑑 𐑐𐑤𐑱 𐑼𐑬𐑯𐑛 𐑢𐑦𐑞 𐑛𐑦𐑓𐑼𐑩𐑯𐑑 𐑒𐑰𐑚𐑹𐑛 𐑤𐑱𐑬𐑑𐑕 𐑑𐑵, 𐑕𐑴 𐑲 𐑣𐑨𐑝 𐑥𐑱𐑛 𐑦𐑑 𐑐𐑪𐑕𐑩𐑚𐑩𐑤 𐑑 𐑧𐑛𐑦𐑑 𐑘𐑹 𐑴𐑯 𐑒𐑳𐑕𐑑𐑩𐑥 𐑒𐑰𐑚𐑹𐑛 𐑤𐑱𐑬𐑑𐑕 𐑢𐑦𐑞 𐑒𐑳𐑕𐑑𐑩𐑥 𐑤𐑰𐑜𐑩𐑗𐑼𐑟!  𐑿 𐑒𐑨𐑯 𐑦𐑥𐑐𐑹𐑑 𐑯 𐑧𐑒𐑕𐑐𐑹𐑑 𐑞𐑧𐑥, 𐑕𐑴 𐑦𐑓 𐑿 𐑛𐑦𐑝𐑧𐑤𐑩𐑐 𐑢𐑳𐑯 𐑿𐑼 𐑐𐑼𐑑𐑦𐑒𐑿𐑤𐑼𐑤𐑦 𐑐𐑤𐑰𐑟𐑛 𐑝, 𐑿 𐑒𐑨𐑯 𐑖𐑺 𐑦𐑑 𐑢𐑦𐑞 𐑞 𐑮𐑧𐑕𐑑 𐑝 𐑞 𐑒𐑩𐑥𐑿𐑯𐑦𐑑𐑦 𐑣𐑽 𐑑𐑵.

𐑑 𐑜𐑦𐑝 𐑿 𐑕𐑳𐑥 𐑦𐑯𐑕𐑐𐑦𐑮𐑱𐑑𐑦𐑩𐑯 𐑨𐑟 𐑩 𐑕𐑑𐑸𐑑𐑦𐑙 𐑐𐑶𐑯𐑑, 𐑣𐑽’𐑟 ·𐑥𐑸𐑑𐑦’𐑟 ·𐑖𐑰𐑷 𐑓𐑦𐑖 𐑤𐑱𐑬𐑑 𐑦𐑯 𐑞 ·𐑛𐑦𐑕𐑒𐑹𐑛 𐑕𐑻𐑝𐑼.  𐑦𐑑 𐑖𐑫𐑛 𐑷𐑤𐑕𐑴 𐑚𐑰 𐑐𐑪𐑕𐑩𐑚𐑩𐑤 𐑑 𐑛𐑵 𐑔𐑦𐑙𐑟 𐑤𐑲𐑒 u/Dechifro’s 𐑛𐑲𐑜𐑮𐑭𐑓 𐑨𐑟 𐑩𐑯 𐑧𐑯𐑑𐑮𐑦 𐑥𐑧𐑔𐑩𐑛.

𐑲 𐑣𐑨𐑛 𐑩 𐑤𐑪𐑑 𐑝 𐑓𐑳𐑯 𐑚𐑦𐑤𐑛𐑦𐑙 𐑞 𐑧𐑛𐑦𐑑𐑼, 𐑯 𐑰𐑝𐑩𐑯 𐑥𐑹 𐑓𐑳𐑯 𐑐𐑤𐑱𐑦𐑙 𐑼𐑬𐑯𐑛 𐑢𐑦𐑞 𐑞 𐑮𐑦𐑟𐑳𐑤𐑑𐑦𐑙 𐑤𐑱𐑬𐑑𐑕.  𐑐𐑤𐑰𐑟 𐑤𐑧𐑑 𐑥𐑰 𐑯𐑴 𐑣𐑬 𐑿 𐑜𐑧𐑑 𐑪𐑯!

𐑴, 𐑯 𐑞 𐑤𐑰𐑛𐑼𐑚𐑹𐑛 𐑦𐑟 𐑕𐑑𐑦𐑤 𐑥𐑴𐑕𐑑 𐑛𐑧𐑓𐑦𐑯𐑦𐑑𐑤𐑦 𐑩 𐑔𐑦𐑙 𐑞𐑨𐑑 𐑯𐑰𐑛𐑟 𐑿 𐑑 𐑐𐑫𐑑 𐑘𐑹 𐑯𐑱𐑥 𐑪𐑯 𐑦𐑑.

This has been a challenging one, but the results hopefully speak for themselves! Following the example of the Shavian edition of Androcles and the Lion, I’ve built a parallel ebook reader in Shave, that matches the two scripts in parallel, line for line. I hope this proves to be a very useful way for new Shavians to master reading the script!

The existing shavian-only mode is still there, and it still supports tapping on words to show the Latin script equivalent.

By popular demand, I’ve also added support for uploading already transliterated epubs to the tool. Sort of fun this: it runs the reverse transliterator over these books, but still allows you to read and download them in Shavian. (Even in the new side-by-side mode.) The reverse transliteration run means that the tool will do its best to serve you the right roman spelling of words you are not sure about.

As a reminder, Shave has an extensive library of public domain books - if you sign in, you can help edit them, and even share your own.

Please give it a spin, and let me know what you think! I‘m still polishing off some rough edges, but it should be usable already. Please do let me know if you run into problems.

Today I transliterated Animal Farm on my cellphone. (Here’s a read-only version of that project - you cannot make edits of your own, but you can download the resulting ebook. Disclaimer: I haven’t actually proofread it yet!)

I am almost done reading ·𐑥𐑸𐑑𐑼, and I cannot recommend ·𐑢𐑧𐑯 𐑞 𐑒𐑮𐑱𐑯𐑟 𐑓𐑤𐑲 𐑕𐑬𐑔 or ·𐑪𐑯 𐑷𐑤 𐑓𐑹𐑕 warmly enough.

What books are you reading?

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𐑑𐑩𐑛𐑱 𐑲 𐑑𐑮𐑨𐑯𐑟𐑤𐑦𐑑𐑼𐑱𐑑𐑩𐑛 ·𐑨𐑯𐑦𐑥𐑩𐑤 ·𐑓𐑸𐑥 𐑧𐑯 𐑥𐑲 𐑕𐑧𐑤𐑓𐑴𐑯.  (·𐑣𐑽𐑟 𐑩 𐑮𐑧𐑛-𐑴𐑯𐑤𐑦 𐑝𐑻𐑠𐑩𐑯 𐑝 𐑞𐑨𐑑 𐑐𐑮𐑪𐑡𐑧𐑒𐑑 - 𐑿 𐑒𐑨𐑯𐑯𐑪𐑑 𐑥𐑱𐑒 𐑧𐑛𐑦𐑑𐑕 𐑝 𐑘𐑹 𐑴𐑯, 𐑚𐑳𐑑 𐑿 𐑒𐑨𐑯 𐑛𐑬𐑯𐑤𐑴𐑛 𐑞 𐑮𐑦𐑟𐑳𐑤𐑑𐑦𐑙 𐑰𐑚𐑫𐑒.  𐑛𐑦𐑕𐑒𐑤𐑱𐑥𐑼: 𐑲 𐑣𐑨𐑝𐑩𐑯𐑑 𐑨𐑒𐑗𐑫𐑩𐑤𐑦 𐑐𐑮𐑵𐑓𐑮𐑰𐑛 𐑦𐑑 𐑘𐑧𐑑!)

𐑲 𐑨𐑥 𐑷𐑤𐑥𐑴𐑕𐑑 𐑛𐑳𐑯 𐑮𐑰𐑛𐑦𐑙 ·𐑥𐑸𐑑𐑼, 𐑯 𐑲 𐑒𐑨𐑯𐑯𐑪𐑑 𐑮𐑧𐑒𐑩𐑥𐑧𐑯𐑛 ·𐑢𐑧𐑯 𐑞 𐑒𐑮𐑱𐑯𐑟 𐑓𐑤𐑲 𐑕𐑬𐑔 𐑹 ·𐑪𐑯 𐑷𐑤 𐑓𐑹𐑕 𐑢𐑹𐑥𐑤𐑦 𐑦𐑯𐑳𐑓.

𐑢𐑪𐑑 𐑚𐑫𐑒𐑕 𐑸 𐑿 𐑮𐑰𐑛𐑦𐑙?

For those who haven't been following along, I’ve been working on an advanced shavian transliteration tool for quite some time now. Here, at long last, is a web-ui front-end. It includes my e-book conversion and proof-reading tool (only EPub for now - but you can use the results with most modern ebook readers). There are still kinks to iron out, but I'm pretty pleased with the results, and couldn't wait to share it with everybody!

𐑓 𐑞𐑴𐑟 𐑣𐑵 𐑣𐑨𐑝𐑩𐑯𐑑 𐑚𐑰𐑯 𐑓𐑪𐑤𐑴𐑦𐑙 𐑩𐑤𐑪𐑙, 𐑲𐑝 𐑚𐑰𐑯 𐑢𐑻𐑒𐑦𐑙 𐑪𐑯 𐑩𐑯 𐑩𐑛𐑝𐑭𐑯𐑕𐑑 𐑖𐑱𐑝𐑾𐑯 𐑑𐑮𐑨𐑯𐑟𐑤𐑦𐑑𐑼𐑱𐑖𐑩𐑯 𐑑𐑵𐑤 𐑓 𐑒𐑢𐑲𐑑 𐑕𐑳𐑥 𐑑𐑲𐑥 𐑯𐑬.  𐑣𐑽, 𐑨𐑑 𐑤𐑪𐑙 𐑤𐑭𐑕𐑑, 𐑦𐑟 𐑩 𐑢𐑧𐑚-UI 𐑓𐑮𐑳𐑯𐑑-𐑧𐑯𐑛.  𐑦𐑑 𐑦𐑯𐑒𐑤𐑵𐑛𐑟 𐑥𐑲 𐑰-𐑚𐑫𐑒 𐑒𐑩𐑯𐑝𐑻𐑠𐑩𐑯 𐑯 𐑐𐑮𐑵𐑓-𐑮𐑰𐑛𐑦𐑙 𐑑𐑵𐑤 (𐑴𐑯𐑤𐑦 EPUB 𐑓 𐑯𐑬 - 𐑚𐑳𐑑 𐑿 𐑒𐑨𐑯 𐑿𐑟 𐑞 𐑮𐑦𐑟𐑳𐑤𐑑𐑕 𐑢𐑦𐑞 𐑥𐑴𐑕𐑑 𐑥𐑪𐑛𐑼𐑯 𐑰𐑚𐑫𐑒 𐑮𐑰𐑛𐑼𐑟).  𐑞𐑺 𐑸 𐑕𐑑𐑦𐑤 𐑒𐑦𐑙𐑒𐑕 𐑑 𐑲𐑼𐑯 𐑬𐑑, 𐑚𐑳𐑑 𐑲𐑥 𐑐𐑮𐑦𐑑𐑦 𐑐𐑤𐑰𐑟𐑛 𐑢𐑦𐑞 𐑞 𐑮𐑦𐑟𐑳𐑤𐑑𐑕, 𐑯 𐑒𐑫𐑛𐑩𐑯𐑑 𐑢𐑱𐑑 𐑑 𐑖𐑺 𐑦𐑑 𐑢𐑦𐑞 𐑧𐑝𐑮𐑦𐑚𐑪𐑛𐑦!