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Finneas via IG story: โ€œHuge opportunity for literally any multi billionaire to meaningfully fund climate solutions, you will be lauded as our greatest hero-your previous greed will be forgotten we will build statues of u in the new sustainable worldโ€

u/cmaia1503 โ€” 3 days ago
โ–ฒ 6 r/shavian

Progress Report

The quest continues to make https://dechifro.org/shavian the best pronunciation tool available for the English language. The final boss is the Collins Scrabble Dictionary, all 279,500 words that can legally be played in a Scrabble tournament. If you've ever watched Will Anderson's YouTube channel, you know how ridiculously over-inclusive this word list is. A common question in his comment section is, "What language is this?"

I refereed the above game between two computer players, allowing NOULD, AIRTH, SERK/CIRQUE, LIN, DOW, and EELIER because they were just too good to refuse.

My translation is 99.97% complete -- only 86 words remain unshaved -- but it's only about 88% correct. I pull 1000 random Scrabble words, look them up in the Collins on-line dictionary, find about 120 that need fixing, end up fixing another 800 in the process, then score 88% again on the next try. The thought of crawling the entire dictionary to find and fix all 33,000 incorrect words is too horrifying to contemplate.

I did, however, verify all the two- and three-letter Scrabble words, of which there are 362 and 3086 respectively.

Our immense scientific vocabulary, far exceeding 100,000 words, comes almost entirely from Greek and Latin, which are five-vowel languages. How do you map sounds from a five-vowel language into a fifteen-vowel language? You might say, duh, use the five vowels that best match the donor language and discard the other ten. Wrong!

What you must do instead is assign two or three sounds to each of the five vowel letters, then have an Enigma-style rotor that assigns one sound to each vowel in a particular word. Always run this rotor from right to left so that each new suffix changes the entire word:

econ ๐‘ฐ๐‘’๐‘ช๐‘ฏ
economy ๐‘ฆ๐‘’๐‘ช๐‘ฏ๐‘ฉ๐‘ฅ๐‘ฆ
economic ๐‘ฐ๐‘’๐‘ฉ๐‘ฏ๐‘ช๐‘ฅ๐‘ฆ๐‘’
econometer ๐‘ฐ๐‘’๐‘ฉ๐‘ฏ๐‘ช๐‘ฅ๐‘ฆ๐‘‘๐‘ผ
econometric ๐‘ฆ๐‘’๐‘ช๐‘ฏ๐‘ฉ๐‘ฅ๐‘ง๐‘‘๐‘ฎ๐‘ฆ๐‘’
econometrician ๐‘ฐ๐‘’๐‘ฉ๐‘ฏ๐‘ช๐‘ฅ๐‘ฉ๐‘‘๐‘ฎ๐‘ฆ๐‘–๐‘ฉ๐‘ฏ

This is a common argument against phonetic spelling. It breaks roots like nation/national, chaste/chastity, and thousands of others.

u/Dechifro โ€” 2 days ago
โ–ฒ 34 r/shavian+2 crossposts

๐‘ฒ๐‘ ๐‘œ๐‘ช๐‘‘ ๐‘œ๐‘ซ๐‘› ๐‘ฏ๐‘ฟ๐‘Ÿ ๐‘ฏ ๐‘š๐‘จ๐‘› ๐‘ฏ๐‘ฟ๐‘Ÿ...

u/Ansunian โ€” 5 days ago
โ–ฒ 459 r/shavian+1 crossposts

I joined the club today - hereโ€™s my starter kit!

My Pilot Metropolitan has been โ€œout for deliveryโ€ since Tuesday, so I took it upon myself to go to Blick Art and buy my second fountain pen (before my first has even arrived!). I also got a converter for this one, along with โ€œNeptuneโ€ color water-based ink. All of this to make some pretty letters in a Clairefontaine notebook.

Using the converter was much easier than I expected, and the paper in this notebook performs fantastically - no feathering or bleeding at all. As the picture shows, this pen is a Japanese Platinum Plaiser with an F03 nib ($21.99 USD). All in with the two pens, the converter, the ink, and the notebook, Iโ€™m just under $110.00. Not bad for starting out a hobby.

Itโ€™s my first experience with a fountain pen, so I canโ€™t compare it to another apple, so to speak, but vs ballpoints itโ€™s pretty nice. Iโ€™m looking forward to getting in some more time with it. Iโ€™m also hoping to get my original selection delivered, and seeing how the two compare to each other.

For the curious, all three lines say the same thing. First line is the Shavian alphabet, second is Latin (and this is my good writing sample), and third is my own conscription and modification of Anglo-Saxon/Anglo-Frisian Runes for modern American English.

u/dade1027 โ€” 8 days ago
โ–ฒ 16 r/shavian

๐‘๐‘ฑ๐‘–๐‘ฉ๐‘‘ ๐‘Ÿ๐‘ฝ๐‘ด

u/Ansunian โ€” 5 days ago
โ–ฒ 18 r/shavian

๐‘ž ๐‘ป๐‘” ๐‘ฆ๐‘Ÿ ๐‘“๐‘ค๐‘จ๐‘‘

u/Ansunian โ€” 9 days ago
โ–ฒ 14 r/shavian

๐‘ฅ๐‘ฒ ๐‘“๐‘ฑ๐‘๐‘ผ๐‘ฆ๐‘‘ ๐‘๐‘ค๐‘ฑ๐‘•๐‘ฆ๐‘Ÿ ๐‘ฆ๐‘ฏ ๐‘“๐‘ค๐‘น๐‘พ๐‘ฏ๐‘ช๐‘๐‘ฉ๐‘ค๐‘ฆ๐‘•

  • ๐‘ฆ๐‘™๐‘œ๐‘ค๐‘ฑ๐‘Ÿ๐‘ฆ๐‘Ÿ (Praia dos Ingleses, "๐‘š๐‘ฐ๐‘— ๐‘ ๐‘ž ๐‘ฆ๐‘™๐‘œ๐‘ค๐‘ฆ๐‘–๐‘ฅ๐‘ง๐‘ฏ") ๐‘ฉ ๐‘š๐‘ฐ๐‘—-๐‘•๐‘ฒ๐‘› ๐‘ฏ๐‘ฑ๐‘š๐‘ผ๐‘ฃ๐‘ซ๐‘›. ๐‘ข๐‘น๐‘ฅ ๐‘ฏ ๐‘ฉ๐‘“๐‘น๐‘›๐‘ฉ๐‘š๐‘ฉ๐‘ค, ๐‘ฆ๐‘“ ๐‘ฉ ๐‘š๐‘ฆ๐‘‘ ๐‘’๐‘ฎ๐‘ฌ๐‘›๐‘ฆ๐‘› ๐‘ก๐‘ซ๐‘ผ๐‘ฆ๐‘™ ๐‘‘๐‘ซ๐‘ผ๐‘ฆ๐‘•๐‘‘ ๐‘•๐‘ฐ๐‘Ÿ๐‘ฉ๐‘ฏ. ๐‘ž๐‘บ๐‘Ÿ ๐‘ฉ ๐‘–๐‘น๐‘‘ ๐‘‘๐‘ฎ๐‘ฑ๐‘ค ๐‘‘ ๐‘ฉ ๐‘“๐‘น๐‘‘ ๐‘จ๐‘‘ ๐‘ž ๐‘ง๐‘ฏ๐‘› ๐‘ ๐‘ž ๐‘š๐‘ฐ๐‘— ๐‘บ๐‘พ
  • ๐‘ฅ๐‘ช๐‘ค๐‘ฆ ๐‘š๐‘ฐ๐‘—: (Praia Mole, "๐‘•๐‘ช๐‘“๐‘‘/๐‘ข๐‘ฐ๐‘’ ๐‘š๐‘ฐ๐‘—") ๐‘ฉ ๐‘•๐‘ป๐‘“๐‘ผ๐‘Ÿ ๐‘š๐‘ฐ๐‘—, ๐‘’๐‘ด๐‘ค๐‘› ๐‘ฏ ๐‘›๐‘ฐ๐‘. ๐‘ฒ ๐‘›๐‘ด๐‘ฏ๐‘‘ ๐‘•๐‘ป๐‘“ ๐‘š๐‘ฉ๐‘‘ ๐‘ฆ๐‘‘๐‘• ๐‘“๐‘ณ๐‘ฏ ๐‘‘ ๐‘ข๐‘ช๐‘— ๐‘ž๐‘ง๐‘ฅ ๐‘‘๐‘ฎ๐‘ฒ. ๐‘ฉ ๐‘ข๐‘ณ๐‘ฏ๐‘›๐‘ผ๐‘“๐‘ฉ๐‘ค ๐‘๐‘ค๐‘ฑ๐‘• ๐‘‘ ๐‘ฎ๐‘ฆ๐‘ค๐‘จ๐‘’๐‘• ๐‘ฆ๐‘ฏ ๐‘ž ๐‘š๐‘ฎ๐‘ฐ๐‘Ÿ; ๐‘ฐ๐‘Ÿ๐‘ฆ ๐‘‘ ๐‘“๐‘ฒ๐‘ฏ๐‘› ๐‘๐‘ธ๐‘’๐‘ฆ๐‘™ ๐‘‘๐‘ต.
  • ๐‘๐‘ฎ๐‘ฑ๐‘ผ ๐‘›๐‘ด๐‘ค๐‘ฅ๐‘ฉ๐‘ฏ ๐‘‘๐‘ฎ๐‘ฑ๐‘ค (Dรณlmen da Oraรงรฃo): ๐‘ฒ ๐‘›๐‘บ๐‘› ๐‘ฏ๐‘ช๐‘‘ ๐‘๐‘ซ๐‘‘ ๐‘•๐‘ณ๐‘— ๐‘ฉ๐‘ฏ ๐‘ท๐‘’๐‘ข๐‘ผ๐‘› ๐‘จ๐‘›๐‘ฉ๐‘๐‘‘๐‘ฑ๐‘–๐‘ฉ๐‘ฏ ๐‘ฆ๐‘ฏ ๐‘ž ๐‘๐‘ฆ๐‘’๐‘—๐‘ผ ๐‘ข๐‘ง๐‘ฏ ๐‘ฉ ๐‘’๐‘ฉ๐‘ฏ๐‘๐‘ฐ๐‘ฏ๐‘พ๐‘ฏ๐‘‘ ๐‘’๐‘จ๐‘ค๐‘’ ๐‘ฆ๐‘Ÿ ๐‘ฉ๐‘๐‘ฑ๐‘ค๐‘ฉ๐‘š๐‘ฉ๐‘ค, ๐‘š๐‘ฉ๐‘‘ ๐‘ฆ๐‘‘ ๐‘ข๐‘ซ๐‘›๐‘ฉ๐‘ ๐‘š๐‘ฆ๐‘ฏ _๐‘›๐‘ด๐‘ฅ๐‘ฑ๐‘™ ๐‘›๐‘ฉ ๐‘น๐‘ฉ๐‘•๐‘ฌ๐‘™_. ๐‘ฉ ๐‘ฅ๐‘ช๐‘›๐‘ผ๐‘ฉ๐‘‘๐‘ค๐‘ฆ ๐‘–๐‘น๐‘‘ ๐‘‘๐‘ฎ๐‘ฑ๐‘ค ๐‘‘ ๐‘ฉ ๐‘š๐‘ฎ๐‘งT-๐‘‘๐‘ฑ๐‘’๐‘ฆ๐‘™ ๐‘๐‘ฟ. ๐‘ž ๐‘๐‘ฎ๐‘ฑ๐‘ผ ๐‘›๐‘ด๐‘ค๐‘ฅ๐‘ฉ๐‘ฏ ๐‘ฆ๐‘‘๐‘•๐‘ง๐‘ค๐‘“ ๐‘ฆ๐‘Ÿ ๐‘ฉ ๐‘‘๐‘ฒ๐‘ฏ๐‘ฆ ๐‘ฏ๐‘ฑ๐‘‘๐‘ฆ๐‘ ๐‘ฅ๐‘ง๐‘œ๐‘ฉ-๐‘ค๐‘ฆ๐‘” ("๐‘ฅ๐‘ฆ๐‘ฏ๐‘ฆ-๐‘ค๐‘ฆ๐‘”"?)
  • ๐‘ค๐‘ญ๐‘œ๐‘ด๐‘ฐ๐‘™๐‘˜๐‘ฉ ๐‘›๐‘ซ ๐‘ค๐‘ง๐‘•๐‘‘๐‘ฆ: (Lagoinha do Leste, "๐‘ค๐‘ฆ๐‘‘๐‘ฉ๐‘ค ๐‘ฐ๐‘•๐‘‘ ๐‘ค๐‘ฉ๐‘œ๐‘ต๐‘ฏ") ๐‘ฉ ๐‘‘๐‘ณ๐‘“ ๐‘‘๐‘ฎ๐‘ฑ๐‘ค ๐‘‘ ๐‘ฉ ๐‘•๐‘ฆ๐‘’๐‘ค๐‘ต๐‘›๐‘ฆ๐‘› ๐‘š๐‘ฐ๐‘—. ๐‘ž ๐‘‘๐‘ฎ๐‘ฑ๐‘ค ๐‘œ๐‘ด๐‘Ÿ ๐‘ช๐‘ฏ ๐‘‘ ๐‘ž ๐‘ค๐‘ฉ๐‘œ๐‘ด๐‘ฏ ๐‘ฆ๐‘‘๐‘•๐‘ง๐‘ค๐‘“ ๐‘น ๐‘‘ ๐‘ฉ ๐‘’๐‘ฎ๐‘ฌ๐‘ฏ-๐‘–๐‘ฑ๐‘๐‘‘ ๐‘ฎ๐‘ช๐‘’, ๐‘š๐‘ฉ๐‘‘ ๐‘ข๐‘ฐ ๐‘ข๐‘ป ๐‘‘๐‘ต ๐‘ฆ๐‘œ๐‘Ÿ๐‘ท๐‘•๐‘‘๐‘ฆ๐‘› ๐‘“๐‘ผ ๐‘ฒ๐‘ž๐‘ผ.

๐‘ฒ ๐‘ฃ๐‘ด๐‘ ๐‘ฟ ๐‘ฆ๐‘ฏ๐‘ก๐‘ถ๐‘› ๐‘ž ๐‘“๐‘ด๐‘‘๐‘ด๐‘Ÿ. ๐‘ฒ ๐‘ฃ๐‘จ๐‘› ๐‘‘ ๐‘ฎ๐‘ง๐‘Ÿ๐‘ฉ๐‘ฎ๐‘ง๐‘’๐‘‘ ๐‘ฉ๐‘ฏ ๐‘ด๐‘ค๐‘› ๐‘“๐‘ด๐‘ฏ ๐‘‘ ๐‘ฎ๐‘ฆ๐‘’๐‘ณ๐‘๐‘ผ ๐‘ž ๐‘ค๐‘ญ๐‘œ๐‘ด๐‘ฐ๐‘™๐‘˜๐‘ฉ ๐‘๐‘ฆ๐‘’

u/ZevenEikjes โ€” 8 days ago
โ–ฒ 23 r/shavian

๐‘ž ๐‘ฅ๐‘จ๐‘ฏ ๐‘ฆ๐‘Ÿ ๐‘ท๐‘ค๐‘ข๐‘ฑ๐‘Ÿ ๐‘‘๐‘ง๐‘ค๐‘ฆ๐‘™ ๐‘ฅ๐‘ฐ ๐‘ข๐‘ช๐‘‘ ๐‘‘ ๐‘›๐‘ต ... ๐‘ฆ๐‘ฏ ๐‘–๐‘ฑ๐‘๐‘พ๐‘ฏ.

u/bstmichael โ€” 10 days ago
โ–ฒ 31 r/shavian

๐‘—๐‘ช๐‘’๐‘ค๐‘ฉ๐‘‘ ๐‘ค๐‘จ๐‘š

u/Ansunian โ€” 11 days ago
โ–ฒ 31 r/shavian

๐‘ฆ๐‘ฏ ๐‘ž ๐‘Ÿ๐‘ด๐‘ฏ

u/Ansunian โ€” 13 days ago
โ–ฒ 17 r/shavian

๐‘•๐‘ช๐‘ฎ๐‘ฆ, ยท๐‘ฅ๐‘ธ๐‘’๐‘ฉ๐‘•

u/Ansunian โ€” 10 days ago
โ–ฒ 6 r/shavian

๐‘’๐‘ฏ ๐‘ฟ ๐‘ฎ๐‘› ๐‘ž๐‘•?

๐‘ฒ ๐‘ฏ๐‘ด ๐‘ฆ๐‘‘๐‘• ๐‘›๐‘•๐‘ฏ๐‘‘๐‘ค๐‘ฆ ๐‘๐‘•๐‘š๐‘ค ๐‘‘ ๐‘ฎ๐‘› ๐‘ฆ๐‘™๐‘œ๐‘ค๐‘– ๐‘ข๐‘” ๐‘ด๐‘ฅ๐‘‘๐‘› ๐‘๐‘ค๐‘Ÿ ๐‘“ ๐‘ฏ๐‘‘๐‘ ๐‘•๐‘๐‘’๐‘Ÿ ๐‘ฆ๐‘ฏ ๐‘ž โ€ข๐‘ค๐‘‘๐‘ฏ ๐‘•๐‘’๐‘ฎ๐‘๐‘‘, ๐‘š๐‘‘ ๐‘ฒ๐‘ฅ ๐‘’๐‘˜๐‘• ๐‘ฃ๐‘ฌ ๐‘ข๐‘ค ๐‘ž๐‘‘ ๐‘ข๐‘’๐‘• ๐‘ฆ๐‘ฏ โ€ข๐‘–๐‘๐‘ฏ. ๐‘ฅ๐‘ฑ ๐‘ฎ๐‘ค๐‘Ÿ ๐‘ธ ๐‘ž๐‘‘ ๐‘๐‘ค๐‘Ÿ ๐‘จ๐‘‘ ๐‘ข๐‘›-๐‘š๐‘ฏ๐‘›๐‘ฎ๐‘Ÿ ๐‘ธ ๐‘ญ๐‘ค๐‘ข๐‘Ÿ ๐‘ฎ๐‘‘๐‘ฏ ๐‘š๐‘‘ ๐‘ž ๐‘ฎ๐‘•๐‘‘ ๐‘ธ๐‘ฏ๐‘‘ ๐‘ฉ๐‘ฏ๐‘ค๐‘• ๐‘ฆ๐‘‘๐‘• ๐‘›๐‘ฅ๐‘› ๐‘ฃ๐‘ค๐‘๐‘“๐‘ค. ๐‘ค๐‘‘ ๐‘ฅ๐‘ฐ ๐‘ฏ๐‘ด ๐‘ข๐‘ผ ๐‘”๐‘‘๐‘• ๐‘ช๐‘ฏ ๐‘ž๐‘• ๐‘จ๐‘Ÿ ๐‘ฉ ๐‘’๐‘ฏ๐‘•๐‘๐‘‘. ๐‘ฒ๐‘ฅ ๐‘ฏ๐‘‘ ๐‘•๐‘ก๐‘•๐‘‘๐‘™ ๐‘ฆ๐‘‘ ๐‘š๐‘’๐‘ฅ ๐‘ž ๐‘ฏ๐‘น๐‘ฅ ๐‘š๐‘‘ ๐‘•๐‘‘๐‘ค ๐‘ž๐‘™๐‘’ ๐‘ฆ๐‘‘๐‘• ๐‘ฉ๐‘ฏ ๐‘ฆ๐‘ฏ๐‘‘๐‘ฎ๐‘•๐‘‘๐‘™ ๐‘ฒ๐‘›๐‘พ.

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u/uslasherfilm โ€” 11 days ago
โ–ฒ 7 r/shavian

I have a question - how do you type in shavian? Like, on a keyboard and mouse? I want to type in shavian but the thing is I don't know where to start.

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u/No-Register6035 โ€” 13 days ago
โ–ฒ 16 r/shavian

๐‘๐‘ฎ๐‘ฆ๐‘‘๐‘ฆ ๐‘—๐‘ฆ๐‘ค

u/Ansunian โ€” 12 days ago