The Grave Robbing Boogeymen

The Grave Robbing Boogeymen

I will start this post by conceding that the grave robbers, of all of the known suspects or persons of interest, are the only ones who (on paper) have a somewhat plausible motive to want the women to disappear. But if you actually dig deeper, you will see that the grave robbers are a giant red herring in this case, and the focus on them for the last 34 years has led to lies, exaggerations, outright falsehoods, and myths when discussing this case online.

The grave robbery occurred on the same day that Dustin Recla was having a birthday party. It was at this party that Joseph Riedel ran his mouth about what he, Recla, and Michael Clay did at the mausoleum, with stealing the gold teeth from the skull of a corpse. A few days later, an anonymous caller called in to Crime Stoppers and said (per the incident report on the grave robbery):

> On 03-02-92 at 1015 hours, a call was received through Crime Stoppers Hotline. Officer Bruce Waterman received the call. The caller, who wished to remain anonymous, told Waterman that they had overheard a conversation about the people involved in the Maple Park Mausoleum vandalism. The caller took notes and never saw the subjects involved. The caller stated that there were three males involved between 17 and 20 years of age. The caller heard that one subject did not have gloves but two did, and they all were on LSD at the time of the incident. The caller stated that the subjects had burnt the hair on a skull to see inside the mausoleum due to the darkness. The caller heard that the subjects took gold teeth out of the skull and sold the gold from the teeth at the Gold Exchange. The caller did not know which one. The caller only heard that one subject's name as Mike, and Mike and a guy from Chicago are living together.

Whoever this caller was, was clearly in attendance at Recla's birthday party. Could it have been Suzie? Nope. Remember, this Crime Stoppers tip came in on March 2nd. The pawn shop where the gold teeth was pawned called the cops the next day and gave them Recla's name. Recla was the one who pawned the teeth and gave the shop his ID. When Recla was called into the police station for questioning on March 4th, he initially denied any involvement, but then quickly broke down and confessed to everything. Later that evening, the police tried to question Riedel about the robbery, but he was uncooperative. Then on March 5th, according to the incident report:

> When Dustin was arrested at Town and County Theater, his girlfriend, Suzanne E. Streeter, DOB 03-09-73, was with him. Streeter indicated that she has known Dustin approximately one and one-half months. Suzanne told me that after she had picked Dustin up from the Police Department after he and I first spoke on 03-04-92, Dustin had told her about the vandalism and the theft of tools from the Arts Center. Suzanne gave a written statement as to what Dustin had told her. In her statement, she indicated that Dustin had told her about the Subway Shop being robbed by Joe and Mike and that the next morning, Joe and Mike called Dustin and told him that they had a bunch of money. Then they went shopping at the mall (unknown which mall). They then went back to Chicago where Joe is from and Mike has stayed in the past. Suzanne's statement indicates Dustin told her that he went to the cemetery to look at head stones and dates.

^ That is the only mention of Suzie in the incident report about the grave robbery. She did not know about it prior to Recla confessing to her on March 4th, so Suzie could not have been the person who called in the tip to Crime Stoppers. Also in the incident report, Riedel was re-interviewed by the cops on March 5th, and he too confessed to everything and agreed to cooperate with law enforcement. Riedel and Recla were questioned together on the 5th:

> I confronted Joe and Dustin at the same time. I asked Dustin if he wished to talk to me again about the vandalism and burglaries. Dustin wished to speak with an attorney at that time; therefore, I asked no further questions of Dustin. Joe wished to continue to be interviewed. I asked Joe about the tools from the Performing Arts Center. Joe indicated that all three (Joe, Dustin, and Michael) had taken the tools and that all three had pawned the tools and they had to use Dustin’s identification being that Michael and Joe did not have any picture identification. At one point, Joe stated that they had been caught and that he was going to cooperate. Dustin then spoke to Joe and told Joe, “If you hadn’t been bragging at the party, we wouldn’t of been caught." Joe then continued to tell me that the three of them were in the cemetery and that the three of them went to Gold Exchange and that Dustin's identification had to again be used. I discontinued asking any more questions of Joe and had not asked any more questions of Dustin once he requested an attorney.

Riedel was cooperating with law enforcement. He was singing like a bird about not only the grave robbery, but also the theft of some tools from the Performing Arts Center. Shortly after this interview, Riedel and Clay fled from Springfield back to Illinois (where Riedel was from). When Clay found out that Riedel was the one who snitched on he and Recla, Clay left him and headed to California before eventually returning to Springfield. It was not until after the women went missing that the police issued warrants for their arrests for the grave robbery, which was on June 22nd. Riedel was found in Illinois, and there is no evidence that he was in or had ever returned to Springfield after March when he and Clay fled to Illinois (despite reports from the News Leader that Riedel "is believed to have" left Springfield after the disappearances, according to Clay he and Riedel fled to Illinois in March and he left him there shortly afterwards). IMO, the cops arrested them thinking that they could get at lest one of them to roll on the others and confess if they actually had any involvement with the disappearances. But that didn't happen. We know that by September, the cops had polygraphed 21 people (including Bartt Streeter and Mike Kovacs, Suzie's ex-boyfriend) and that of those 21, Recla and Clay passed. The police would not comment on whether or not Riedel had taken a polygraph at that point. But that's because Riedel was in Illinois, and he wasn't polygraphed until October. He passed.

So where is there any motivation for Riedel to have been involved with the women's disappearances? He was the one fully cooperating with law enforcement. He was openly confessing to not only the grave robbery, but other crimes as well. And if Riedel was the one cooperating with law enforcement, why would Recla and Clay have any motivation to make the three women disappear, when their biggest obstacle in the grave robbery case was Riedel? If they had the motivation to make someone disappear it would've been Riedel, not Suzie, Sherrill, and Stacy. Suzie was not set to testify against any of them. She was not on some secret witness list. They didn't need Suzie's statement. They already had Riedel and Recla confessing to their involvement with the grave robbery. Riedel went further than Recla and confessed to other robberies they committed.

Now there is a mention of a Subway being robbed for about $3,000 that happened in January of 1992. Recla told the cops:

> I asked Dustin if he knew about the Subway burglary that had occurred on 01-20-92. Dustin agreed to write a statement reference what he knew about the Subway burglary. Dustin stated that he was not involved with that burglary. During his written statement, he indicated that he was contacted by Joe about the time of this burglary. When Joe contacted him, he wanted him to go to the mall, (unknown which Mall), where they went on a shopping spree. Dustin indicated that Joe told him how they went into the back door of Subway and took a few thousand dollars. Dustin indicated he knew nothing more about the Subway burglary.

This statement backs up with what Suzie told law enforcement...but she learned this information from Recla. Riedel denied involvement in the Subway robbery, but admitted to stealing tools with Recla and Clay and pawning them off for cash to go shopping at the mall. Either way, Recla and Riedel were the ones confessing to the cops about various crimes and admitting culpability in some and denying it in others. So I ask again: where is the motivation for any of the three grave robbers to be involved with making the women disappear? Assuming that they were involved somehow, it only took them two days to break down and confess to stealing gold teeth from a skull, do you really think they would have been able to remain completely silent about it for the last 34 years? No shot. The grave robbers are a red herring in this case. The police chief at the time saw this, which is why he publicly cleared them. I know other members of the Springfield Police Department thought they shouldn't have been fully cleared like that, but I still agree that on the list of suspects or persons of interest, they should be near the bottom.

What I would love to know is that of the 21 people who had been polygraphed by September of 1992, all but one of these people passed. I know polygraphs aren't 100% capable of telling whether someone is lying or telling the truth, but I would love to know who that person was who failed the test. Because all 3 grave robbers passed, as well as Bartt Streeter and Mike Kovacs.

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u/DJHJR86 — 23 days ago

New Book About the Springfield Three

A new book is being written and will be released in October of 2027 about the missing women. One of the authors of the book did a podcast interview and he briefly touches on the book coming out (approximately 56 minutes in). Here's what was said (emphasis mine):

> I did another one, I did another book that's coming out. A 32 year old cold case in Springfield, MO and found the guy and solved the crime. In 1992 three women disappear from a house in Springfield, MO. It's called the Springfield Three. Google it, there are a very large number of blogs, podcasts, documentaries, it's been everything. 48 Hours. The Oprah Winfrey Show. It's a very, very wildly known case. 33 years after the fact, I was looking saying, what am I gonna do now? And I got access to the entire file. The case has never been closed in 33 years. The police department kept it open so they would not have to disclose information. If a case is open, it's not discoverable under freedom of information laws. FOIA requests. Well that was the case for 33 years. But I was friends with people that did the initial investigation. One of them took a bootleg file of the entire case and had it in his garage for 33 years. And he says, "go get 'em kid." So I started going through it. And it was very obvious very quickly what happened. And it's taken all this time to get the police department, they're fully engaged with it right now. It was a mother, her daughter, and her daughter's friend disappeared after graduation on a Saturday night into Sunday morning. Disappeared, and no clue has ever been found. Nothing. Until now. I don't want to tell you right now because that would blow the book and I don't have the publication date on it. But I will say this, the case is not that far behind JonBenet Ramsey in terms of people that know the case. And it's really fascinating and compelling, and the solution what actually happened I went out and interviewed one of the two guys that were involved in it and the truth about what happened in this case is stunning.

I'm not sure what to make of this. On the one hand, I see that this guy has written other books and one of them was about the Idaho 4 hinting that Kohberger is actually innocent, so I take his words with a grain of salt about the missing women. But on the other hand, if he truly did get the police file from a friend, that could have opened him up to information that's never been made public. I really hope this isn't just a rehash of "the grave robbers did it".

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u/DJHJR86 — 2 months ago

Graduation Night

There has to be a reason why this crime occurred immediately after the graduation on June 6th. We've heard about how many people had been in Springfield around that time specifically for the purposes of attending various graduations, so the perp/s could be local, and they could also be from a neighboring town or nearby area. Based off of what we know, we know that Sherrill spoke to her best friend named Val (according to Bartt in this interview) that night (at 11 or 11:15 p.m.), and that Val told the police that Sherrill said she was refurbishing a dresser. Officer Bookout noted the smell of varnish, so this is a 100% verifiable fact. So Sherrill was always going to be home that evening, with no plans to have company or go out (something she would have mentioned to her best friend).

While Suzie did pack an overnight bag and bring it with her to the parties that night, I think early on during the parties that she had made up her mind that she was going to go back to her house at some point that night. According to Janis (at 43 seconds in the video):

> During the graduation, Suzie was very upset. She wanted to go home and stay at her house. She had asked several people to spend the night with her and I think it was a last minute decision made by Stacy solely because Suzie needed a friend.

Remember, Suzie was also complaining about stomach aches during the parties. IMO, she was trying to get out of spending the night at Brian Joy's or Janelle's, because she really wanted to go back home and sleep in her new water bed. Her plans to meet Nigel at the house on Delmar on the 7th to go to the water park, also lend credence to the theory that Suzie was always going to go home that night.

The only person who had no plans to stay at their house that night was Stacy. Stacy told her mom originally that they were going to Branson. Then she called her mom at 10:30 p.m. and said that the Branson trip wasn't happening that night and that she was going to spend the night at Janelle's and go to Branson the next day. What she didn't tell her mom was that the real plan at that time was to spend the night at Brian Joy's. When Brian Joy rejected them later that night (because they left him to go to the Elder party), they left and went back to Janelle's to get their cars. We do not know when Suzie had asked Stacy to spend the night at her house. It could have been earlier in the evening, and Janelle wouldn't have known about it until they went back to her house to get their cars.

Sherrill was always going to be at the house on Delmar on the 6th/7th. Suzie was (probably) going to be back at the house on Delmar after the parties in the early morning hours of the 7th. Stacy was the only one, IMO, who did not have concrete plans on where she was going to be after the parties in the early morning hours of the 7th. I know the prevailing theory is that Stacy was in the wrong place at the wrong time and that Suzie and/or Sherrill were the targets...but none of that makes sense for it to have happened on graduation night. If the perp/s were there to warn or threaten Sherrill or Suzie, why would they pick a night where there could be more potential witnesses (in town for graduation parties)? Why would they go through with it with an unknown third car in the driveway? I just can't shake the feeling that Stacy's presence at Delmar that night, the first time she had ever been there, was the catalyst for their disappearances. I'm not so certain that if Stacy declined Suzie's offer and stayed at Janelle's that night that Suzie or Sherrill would have been harmed that night. What do you think?

u/DJHJR86 — 2 months ago