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By me, you can play it here: https://isolde-charm-protocol.lovable.app/

To activate music it's special, you right click on note button and left click somewhere else.

( Isolde / Obol squad theme / Defector theme by ZZZ/ Hoyoverse, everything else by me. Includes 10 possible verdict at the end based on your score, warning: bullets are faster, it's my recording software, it slowed it down ) My showcase video show only good answers to not spoil you the wrong ones and Isolde reactions to them.

https://fr.pinterest.com/pin/614600680447301371/

Those are the summonable monsters to assist in v3.1 new gamemode Zenkov. They were datamined. Note that there is also a "Chess monster" I don't know what it is too. For Golden bangboo, I dunno if it is golden bangboo or golden bangboo mecha.

But will rapidly notice 5 known figures along the cast:

1. Romeul, the wolf Sweeper from v2.7. Pretty cool.
2. Unfathomable, v2.1 Yixuan sister recreated by Mevorakh.
3. Phaethon Scorched Horizon from v2.8.
4. Ye Shiyuan the Thrall from v2.4.
5. Sarah messenger nightmare from v2.5.

This is really a good news. I mean, Sarah pass from Forgotten to "You can summon her to fight along you in combat" I do find the concept pretty cool, it's like bangboos system but with Monster/ NPCs fighting along you. From what is leaked it is kinda like the "Support" agent you select for "Operation Matrix" for Weekly Hollow Zero lost void: It's an additional button near other attacks buttons to summon them to do an attack I suppose.

If you wanna see leaks in details, go to Zenlesszonezeroleaks subreddit and search "Zenkov" it's from Mydei_mos / Seele.

I will speak of something that passed incognito during v2.2 release, most of players not noticing it, even myself. And it is how Colonel Isolde is represented through the version 2.2 artworks and in-game. To introduce you the subject, let's take a look at v2.2 artwork, the first image.

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Part 1 : The official v2.2 artworks. The version artwork and the v2.2 story video tape.

I think most of peoples noticed Isolde in the top corner of the artwork, but surely, many didn't noticed her black Bethlehem flower in hair missing, the fact she doesn't have white roses on her, her clothes changed, even her eyes showing an anomalous color. This isn't an oversight, all the other characters have their correct eyes colors. Seed and Orphie are wearing their Obol squad clothes. Then, why Isolde is shown wearing a black dress showing her arms?

Move to the second image. If we were logical, Isolde would be having at least her blue eyes and her black flower in hair if you consider the floating flower to be her brooch that fell. But where things start being ominous, is the v2.2 story video tape. Your glance may be attracted to the core part of the artwork: The proxies, the two members of the Obol squad showcased, the oil lantern. But the character put in highlight here isn't them. Indeed. What occupy most of the artwork is White roses, water and darkness. The theme of Night and Isolde. But the analysis isn't complete. There are two Isolde, one with red eyes, like the one shown in the version 2.2 panoramic artwork, at the top of the tape. But there is a second, symmetrical opposite of it, at the bottom left corner hidden underwater and for that one we don't know her eyes color.

A genuine question emerges: Why two Isolde are represented? And both artworks insisting on the fact the eyes are red? Why the need to put 2 Isolde on the v2.2 story tape whereas one was already here and perfectly visible? Because there is an intention behind it. It was required. But why ?

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Part 2 : To try to understand what is going on, we have to review Isolde appearances shown during v2.2 version and analysis how that appearance change and what is the context around it.

Please move to third image. The oldest Isolde appearance is the one seen in Magus flashback, she wears a kind of Tuxedo / Officer lady dress. Important things to note, she doesn't have any black flower in hair, she doesn't have any white rose on her, she doesn't have any symbolism of flower on her, she doesn't have her chest rose brooch nor the red scroll/talisman with white writing on it. Her pistol isn't shown, only a Denny Toy Gun, she has her sword but not the yellow Octopus charm. I do a parenthesis speculation here, the person shown near Ramiel in v2.8 really look like past Isolde, entirely possible, Ramiel is 100 years old, and Old capital fall with Agamemnon squad was like 10 years ago. But this hypothesis is speculation, believe or not. It's definitely not Carole Arna.

Now let's use image four. Time passed. Her lover / deep friend Orpheus was dying, Isolde allowed Orpheus consciousness transfer to a gun, creating Magus, as Magus voiced wanting to keep Orphie and not wipe her from existing (Orphie trust events, Magus stating she wanted to allow Orphie to exist), this time, Isolde wears her current Colonel uniform, as she got the promotion from the corrupted superiors for I guess, be the only one surviving, and helping Porcelumex/TOPS saving profits. Weapons aren't shown, and again, notice how we don't see the black flower in hair, nor any white rose. She does have her flower golden locket around her neck, but her back white rose or her chest rose with red scroll is still nowhere to be seen. Not even peeking, which is quite strange, considering that during v2.2, you always have black flower in hair visible and at least one of the three white rose on her visible too.

Speaking of v2.2 look, we now have to use image five to take a look at it. Two elements can be observed: Firstly, Isolde artworks systemically show her black flower in hair. As I said earlier, it also shows her chest white rose. I rechecked Orphie/Magus EP, Isolde is shown with white rose, red talisman and her black flower. But I attract you on the fact that Isolde has her black flower even under Overseer mask. So it's clear now, Isolde obtained her white roses, the red scroll and her black flower somewhere between the Fall of Old capital / Creation of Orphie/Magus and version 2.2 event, we can speculate Isolde is between 30 and 40 years old, maybe 36... and the fall happened 10 years ago. So her flowers were obtained recently, during the last 10 years. Secondly, a detail kind of trouble me, on two of those three v2.2 artworks, 2 hides her eyes. The Interknot one, and Orphie/Magus music Fury On. Doesn't it reminds you something? The v2.2 tape. The hidden underwater Isolde not showing her eyes. Other one have red eyes which isn't the right color.

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Part 3 : Ok, so Isolde appearance is different on the various artworks, and she also changed her appearance with time, wearing different clothes. But does anything else have changed?

We will now use the sixth image. The one comparing Miasma Priest and Defiler forms. If you didn't heard of it let me give you a first intel. Mevorakh, in cinematics wear only one golden mask, the version Miasma priest you fight have three. Maybe a hint at her 3 identities Colonel, Overseer and Research Consultant I guess? Or to her three forms? Miasma priest, Defiler, Defector ? But anywway this isn't what I want to talk about here.

Miasma priest and Defiler have a Spectral body part. This is very important. It is an hand attached to the back of her spine for Miasma Priest, in the case of Defiler, it is an additional hair ponytail. There is a signification behind it. Both appears once she infused herself with Miasma and not before.

Hand: Think of omniscience, a guide, protection, lending a hand, offering help. That what the Creator does in Miasma Priest fight, it lend a power to the Miasma priest allowing her to resurrect from a massive miasma ball at the end of v2.0. But also the clock attack I did some theory about. The deity is acting through her, it is a support. See it as an extension of her. Just like the Miasma Exuva on her shoulder. This is a trial, a test to see if she can bears the power.

Ponytail: This isn't an extension, it is part of her. A ponytail, taking root in head, mind. The nature of power is different, miasma priest happens in reality, but here, Defiler, it happens in an illusion, an arena at the middle of a miasma sea, moonlight, red Creator tentacles. The deity isn't acting through her, it is part of her. If you read Isolde letter v2.2 or the Porcelumex files to destroy on v2.1, you will notice that Isolde don't give a bangboo about worshiping the Creator. She isn't a worshiper, she even abort refinements, remove human experiments, she ruins what was established by the former overseer. But why the Creator say nothing? Even in v2.5, when Isolde returns as miasma form, she is able to decide to destroy the porcalloy spheres and ruins Creator plans, without any consequence or vengeance from the Creator. It's because Creator is part of her. It is like Sarah after she was saved from dying by Creator, they are infused by some Creator power and the Creator let them do whatever they want with that power. Through, players may ask, why Isolde in Defiler form keep shouting about sacred path, destiny, blasphemy and blessings?

Because like Sarah case, when Miasma is very potent and you use Creator power, the Creator can forces you to spit some blessing to them with your vocal chords. It's plausible, the enemy "Covenant Guardian" is an human corrupted by the Creator to extreme almost like a messenger, it looks metallic, porcalloy like, and can speak, but speak to only shout Creator laws and vows. You can think about miasma cocoon too, drowned ideal trying to convince you to join them. So nah, here I suppose Isolde is still Isolde, but either it was Creator doing, or she was acting because Creator was watching/monitoring her and she felt like it's not nice criticizing someone listening.

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Part 4 : Who is the Colonel Isolde that we meet in v2.2 ?

Last image. Image seven. There are only three persons/entity having ritualist scrolls on them, talismans. And those are: Ye Shunguang, Miasmic fiend unfathomable, Isolde. Those scrolls in chinese culture are meant to help controlling a resurrected entity, they are generally yellow, you can see one on Qiqi in genshin or one on Miasmic fiend. They are basically recreated/resurrected body and those scrolls allow the necromancer who created them to have some control over them. I precise it here, but Miasma drowned Ideal are perfectly able to mimic someone memory, have a personality and interact with you, see Drowned Ideal Manato in v2.3.

The red scroll on other side display an higher dangerous level, a stronger potent magic. You surely know that Void Hunters Weapon are tied to Creator power, but in Ye Shunguang case, she is also possessed by the power like a vessel. When the white form take over, it is a whole different character. And those red scrolls act as a warning to tell you that there are soul binding talismans on her and she isn't made of only one entity. I suspect it is the same idea with Isolde. There is also the idea of branding, Ye Shunguang in white form obtain red tattoos on legs, for Defiler form you do have those red lines appearing on thigh, but I don't know if the idea behind was the same.

Isolde is the Exatlist overseer Mevorakh / Miasma priest. That Overseer resurrected at the end of v2.0 after being defeated by Yixuan. What tell you that what under the coat, Isolde, isn't also a miasmic creation? Explaining why she has this red scroll on chest? To speculate this you have to take in account everything I said before:

1. In many artworks her eyes are hidden, to not show their colors.
2. She obtained white roses, black flower and red scroll talisman in an unknown way.
3. The body resurrected in v2.0 fight with Yixuan.
4. The Defiler is chanting blessing and speaking with holy lexical field whereas Isolde hate it.
5. Defector doesn't disappear in pixels but turn into miasma goo.
6. Isolde miasma astral projection appearance in v2.5, still able to use Creator power.
7. Identity unclear, she is a Research Consultant, Overseer, Colonel. Also she is the only one knowing Carole Arna and the Mayor, she is surely the one who sent Carole Arna picture inside Hollows to the Mayor through special channel.
8. Her actions somehow helped Krampus, stated in 100% Miss Bunny v2.4, v2.2 Zhao. You can re-check v2.0 / 2.2 Mayor dialogues too, Mayor wanted Lucro/Lorenz gone.

So what if there are indeed two Isolde, but the Isolde we saw in v2.2 was a fake one made of Miasma, created by Krampus, Exaltists, Creator, TOPS or whoever you want, in order to liquidate Lucro and Lorenz, and to stop Creator messenger in v2.5? The real one being Krampus leader?

Again, think of Drowned Ideal. A copy of Isolde would feel her grief, and maybe because miasma is more attracted to violence, it brew her grief out of control leading to that Drowned ideal becoming the Defiler and Defector, explaining why the game itself refuse to label "The Defector" and "The Defiler" as "Isolde" in Data and VR training? Both enemies signatures are "A rising tide of Miasma" and "A receding tide of Miasma" not "Isolde" which is even more suspicious. Because it's not her? Isolde being a professional intel gatherer and very talented individual, would surely be able to attract Lucro and Lorenz away without hurting anyone else. What if after the death of London, Exaltists were in panic and they did experiments and cloning and used miasma to make a new overseer?

Doppelgangers are perfectly able to charge themselves with miasma, miasma infused doppelgangers exist. Foes infused by miasma too. Some do mutate thanks to miasma too changing form, the main example being "Scorched Horizon" boss, in v2.8, able to change its arm form to be any sacrifice including Defiler. This is the ultimate hint, a sacrifice is able to change form.

Imagine Isolde v2.2 as a special type of Sacrifice Drowned Ideal, able to change form if infused by miasma, to become miasma priest or the Defiler. The Black flower in hair or the white roses to me may be the indicator that she is a copy, a fake. The miasmic copy thinking it would be cool for her to go full anhilation mode wanting to bring a new world with Creator ? Also know that Miasmic ethereal can summon other being made of Miasma, main case is "Haytor", Isolde can be a special kind of Haytor, the miasmic soldiers the phantoms she can summons.

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Part 5 : Conclusion

Thanks for reading, this was in my mind since some times. And remember, it is a theory.

A Game Theory.

When you browse the internet and most of artists use the original design, i'm sorry it's an indicator. When posts on X or facebook reach 26 000 likes and the new design is called good for hentai or erogere, there is a issue. When there are content creators on Youtube, for and against hoyo that point at the design telling she ruined her it means something. When players were hyped up since 1 year ago about her reveal it was about original design. They are able to make white star irises, Norma have it. They are able to make fur as they created Nekomata, Pulchra and Banyue. Miyabi is the proof that full clothed agent can perfectly sell. And still they just offer another copy paste of Yixuan wearing Mavuika clothes. So far, Lindvern and Dracaene seems like NPCs meaning that if a fouth one isn't planned it is Eldreda that has to be changed. They not gonna make an original appearance skin. The only element in story is Remielle telling she knew the original Sunbringer, still, it doesn't confirm anything. So yes I agree with the comments saying go create other subreddits. This is Sunbringer reddit not Sunbringers reddit. Go to Eldreda, Lindvern or Dracaene ones if so much fan of them. But to me this reddit was always for original Sunbringer.

Source: https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1Y7BggxTnn/ , original artist : Diablo.curis100. Translated from Spanish. I'm not crying....

Fan UI made by Timely_Yidhari on X.

Sure, can't say it doesn't satisfy all the playerbase there, you have no boobs version old design, child design, and new boobs version. But that where the polemic will happens.

This is the worst Hoyo could have done, because many players will start spitting on the two other designs or advocating for the one they prefer to be playable.

Let's be real. I highly doubt the three will be playable.

Source: https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1BHLH6aEum/

(Include 3 tiny Isolde , transparent background, free to use)

Honestly it's just hypocrite and disrespectful to try convincing other to get an apparence removed or changed.

Peoples should be grateful rhat Hoyoverse / ZZZ devs add Subbringer as a playable agent. I tell you, if I were dev and wandering in this subreddit or on the internet right now, I would think "You Know what? Not playable. Sunbringer for no one, we remove it from rooster"

It's really time to go see the REAL sun outside. I say this because what is happening is worrying me a lot. It's not tbe first time ZZZ community have crashouts. Remielle got outfit changed too. There are others agents in season 3 that surely need critics too to be improved or debated. But seeking just to spread hate and rally ither to harass tbe devs / firce your way on them to get tbe tbings the way you want while impacting the exlerience of other is not okay.

You think you are a white knight ? An hero ? Nothing.

Not 100% of players want Old sunbringer. and so don't start nitpicking if the percent of players loving new design is 50%, 40%, 30%... it doesnt matter as you will remove from those players what they like. In a way or another it is a loss.

And if you have a minimum respect, ask for a skin not a redesign or a basic "slop trash remove boobs". I'm the first trying to draw a fan drip agent record of Sunbringer, yes I draw her with her old clothes on it because we only knew tgat apparenc, but do I cry because she has boobs now? No. And come on, you call that massive? Go check Girlfrontline2 exodium or the characters in Echocalypse scarlet covenant, you will see what real big boobs are. Sunbringer is normal. She is like 2m20 tall, of course proportions follows: Chest, butt, hips but also waist, length of legs, arms, come on!

Are we really relying on tbe old Miracle began video as intel? it was blurry! The cape is pitch black how do you see curves?! At least use v2 5 lockspring cinenatic and sorry to disapoint you but ib v2.5 cinematic you clearly see sge has boobs by her shadow. But tbe coat?! You didnt saw her wearing her coat/cape in s3 trailer? I saw it.

It's a company, they make money, boobs sells welll. Period.

How many players play Zenless Zone Zero ?

Yes, the communities on reddit are maybe not even 1%. So...

Plus, they listen more to Asia, and boobs sell well here.

I just had this idea, and think it looks cool, what is your opinion ?

It just hurt me seeing her like that.... I'm just sad now... it's all just to put that bratty Ramiel that get everything she want in spotlight. I'm just fed up of always seeing voidhunter being the spotlight and all other characters are just denied to shine. I was really hyped by Promeia in v2.6 / 2.7, she had a presence, an aura, she were cool, with the icy cold glare when we talked to Zhao, when she fought against Cissia...

It really pains me to see writers don't even respect characters... you know, it's just, such moments of story, I would have avoided to put them in the trailer or livestream. I would have rather preferred to discover it in story, it really ruined the fun, pulled all joy I had inside me.

I'm very curious about all your opinions and take about it. The poor pookie, the poor cute aura farmer, goth girl.. ; she didn't deserved that. In v2.7, Ramiel was already annoying and she just ruined all our efforts to obtain the W-engine, was it really needed to put her again, a second scolding? To me, no. I really am kind and wish everyone to enjoy the characters they love, but I already start having enough of Ramiel.

I had no big difficulties painting her. Did I do well? ^^