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The ring is a japanese book by Koji Suzuki but you may know it for it's japanese horror adaptation ringu from 1998 or you may know it for it's American adaptation the ring from 2002.

It's about a journalist who after his niece dies he is trying to find what caused her death and he discovers that she was staying at a cabin 7 days with all of her friends who also died on the same day that she did.

And he discovers a strange videotape and watches it and the tape warns that he will die in seven days if he doesn't do a certain action.

He concludes that this videotape killed his niece and her friends and is now going to try to find it's origin before it kills him as well.

Now the differences from the movie is that the protagonist is a male unlike his counterpart in the movie, other differences include that ryuji who was the ex-husband of his female counterpart was just his friend from the University, and the male protagonist also does not have a little boy unlike his female movie counterpart but a wife and a baby girl.

Other differences are that the main villain sadako never appears as a ghost, she is not an onryo with hair covering her face, nor does she have a white dress, nor is she fingernailess.

She doesn't kill a reporter unlike her movie counterpart nor is she killed by her father out of fear of her powers.

But instead she is raped by a doctor and he discovers that she is intersexual and so she minds controll her to throw her down a well.

She never appears as a ghost, instead the doctor had smallpox and he infected sadako with it and since she had mental powers she combined her smallpox infection along with her memories into a videotape, and it's the smallpox that kills you after you watch it, after you watch the video a tumour appears during those seven days and slowly starts to grow until it kills you.

So how do you feel about the book's writing and differences from the movie, did you like it better or worse

The ring is a japanese book by Koji Suzuki but you may know it for it's japanese horror adaptation ringu from 1998 or you may know it for it's American adaptation the ring from 2002.

It's about a journalist who after his niece dies he is trying to find what caused her death and he discovers that she was staying at a cabin 7 days with all of her friends who also died on the same day that she did.

And he discovers a strange videotape and watches it and the tape warns that he will die in seven days if he doesn't do a certain action.

He concludes that this videotape killed his niece and her friends and is now going to try to find it's origin before it kills him as well.

Now the differences from the movie is that the protagonist is a male unlike his counterpart in the movie, other differences include that ryuji who was the ex-husband of his female counterpart was just his friend from the University, and the male protagonist also does not have a little boy unlike his female movie counterpart but a wife and a baby girl.

Other differences are that the main villain sadako never appears as a ghost, she is not an onryo with hair covering her face, nor does she have a white dress, nor is she fingernailess.

She doesn't kill a reporter unlike her movie counterpart nor is she killed by her father out of fear of her powers.

But instead she is raped by a doctor and he discovers that she is intersexual and so she minds controll her to throw her down a well.

She never appears as a ghost, instead the doctor had smallpox and he infected sadako with it and since she had mental powers she combined her smallpox infection along with her memories into a videotape, and it's the smallpox that kills you after you watch it, after you watch the video a tumour appears during those seven days and slowly starts to grow until it kills you.

So how do you feel about the book's writing and differences from the movie, did you like it better or worse

The ring is a japanese book by Koji Suzuki but you may know it for it's japanese horror adaptation ringu from 1998 or you may know it for it's American adaptation the ring from 2002.

It's about a journalist who after his niece dies he is trying to find what caused her death and he discovers that she was staying at a cabin 7 days with all of her friends who also died on the same day that she did.

And he discovers a strange videotape and watches it and the tape warns that he will die in seven days if he doesn't do a certain action.

He concludes that this videotape killed his niece and her friends and is now going to try to find it's origin before it kills him as well.

Now the differences from the movie is that the protagonist is a male unlike his counterpart in the movie, other differences include that ryuji who was the ex-husband of his female counterpart was just his friend from the University, and the male protagonist also does not have a little boy unlike his female movie counterpart but a wife and a baby girl.

Other differences are that the main villain sadako never appears as a ghost, she is not an onryo with hair covering her face, nor does she have a white dress, nor is she fingernailess.

She doesn't kill a reporter unlike her movie counterpart nor is she killed by her father out of fear of her powers.

But instead she is raped by a doctor and he discovers that she is intersexual and so she minds controll her to throw her down a well.

She never appears as a ghost, instead the doctor had smallpox and he infected sadako with it and since she had mental powers she combined her smallpox infection along with her memories into a videotape, and it's the smallpox that kills you after you watch it, after you watch the video a tumour appears during those seven days and slowly starts to grow until it kills you.

So how do you feel about the book's writing and differences from the movie, did you like it better or worse

Millennial games are usually characterized by being games made to pander to millennial chronically online tumblrinas.

It's basically games like Undertale, deltarune or omori where you can tell the developers were millennials raised in the Tumblr era like Toby fox or omocat.

These games typically have Tumblr humour which consists of quirky millennial humor stuff that tumblrinas find funny, and you can quickly tell they were inspired by anime and japanese writing.

They also have the tendency to be basically have a therapy speak moment when the characters have to say their insecurities and it's not even subtle, it's obvious that a lot of these games and stuff written by millennials want to force themes about mental health, or any other thing that appeals to millennials and sometimes a lot of these writers probably heavely project onto these type of characters.

There is also the fact that these creators want to appeal to everyone in general so they make hints of characters being part of any minority group by implying but not stating directly so that they can get away with it.

I'm not even the biggest fan of the franchise as a whole, but H8 is probably my least favorite film of all time.

I find it genuinely insulting. It's one of the most blatantly cynical films I've ever seen.

Recently I've seen some fans try and rehab the film as just a bit of dumb fun. No. Nope. Can't do it. I've tried to see it as just a goofy, fun slasher and it's never gonna happen. It's THAT bad. Some will say the reality TV plot is "ahead of its time." Naaah, it's just extremely dated and cheesy.

H8 may have some of the most vapid and unlikeable cannon fodder of any slasher film ever made. Nobody is fun. Nobody is interesting. Nobody is even fun to hate. They all just...suck. You can't even have fun making fun of the tropes because everyone is either bland as unsalted crackers or so unlikeable you can't wait for them to die. No performance in the film feels genuine either. Everybody phoned it in.

It's also an ugly film to boot, visually speaking. It's the most early 2000s looking thing ever. And not in a good way.

Say what you want about other hated sequels in slasher horror, NONE are as creatively bankrupt and lazy as H8. None.

Jason X? At least it has a sense of humor about itself and knows what it's doing and is ambitious for its budget.

Freddy's Dead? At least it's also ambitious and tries to wrap up the story in a definitive way. You can at least see that the film was going for it's own off-kilter tone and style. And there is creativity in the set pieces.

Texas Chainsaw Massacre The Next Generation? Truly a baffling film. But a baffling film with sincerity and truly off the wall performances.

But Halloween Resurrection? It has none of this.

They wrote the game with most characters being straight and only sexualized their female characters.

So I think they must have been really pissed off at the fact that yaoi smut was made about their own characters since it's not really canon.

When I hear about something so much being debated or discussed and a topic being addressed so many times that I'm not interested in I became so angry.

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And it is whether or not content deemed like problematic or whatever is discussed.

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You name it lolicon, incest or rape and people who have a fetish for it.

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I hate people who call other criminals because they are watering down real life crimes that should be punished but I also hate leftists shotacons/proshippers and shotacons in general who think writing about incest or shotacon is gonna save people from authoritarian governments, and calling everyone that hates them conservative or right wingers or christians, when the people who have actively hunted down that type of content are woke leftists themselves.

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I simply do not care about this discourse, I have more important things to focus about and this is why I want to mute the fiction affects reality discourse because I don't care.

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Her original backstory novel is that she was the child of Shizuka and Dr ikuma and that she had mental powers, after her mother failed a demonstration she was slandered as a fraud, her mother later had a baby but he died after months, this caused her to kill herself, later sadako predicts that a mount is gonna erupt, and years later she grows into a beautiful person and one day her father falls ill and while she is visiting her father, the doctor who was taking care of him gets attracted by sadako and rapes her and while in the process he discovers sadako is intersex, sadako attacks him mentally and he throws her down the well, she never becomes a long haired ghost with a white dress and never goes throught the tv but since the doctor that raped her had smallpox she was infected and used her smallpox combined with her mental powers to create a videotape that gave everyone who watched it a tumour in their throat that would kill them.

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Movie backstory: in the movie timeline it's implied sadako's father was not the doctor but an oceanic entity that impregnated Shizuku, the first mayor difference is that it was Shizuku who predicted the eruption not sadako, the second difference is that when Shizuku failed her demonstration and was slandered sadako killed one of the reporters that was slandering her mother, this did not happen in the book.

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Shizuku does throw herself off a volcano like the book and sadako ends up growing but her father fearful of sadako's deadly powers threw her off the well, there was no rape doctor with smallpox like in the book.

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One of the prequels also reveals that sadako split herself between a good sadako and a bad sadako and that they lived like that until the bad sadako started killing everyone around the good sadako and in the end both fused and started killing the people that were trying to kill her because of her powers.

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This sadako has the appearance of an onryo with ripped fingernails and with a white dress and hair covering her face, unlike her book counterpart she comes to physically kill the people who have watched the tape and appears as a ghost, most incarnations follow her appearance in this movie when this was only invented for this movie.

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Korean sadako: Korean sadako is mostly like the book except she worked In a sexual club, and instead of her mother throwing herself of a volcano she does it off a cliff.

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She does get raped by someone who discovers she is intersex and is later killed by that person just like the book but that person is not the doctor of her father but rather her half brother who is insane.

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Samara Morgan: she was a child with mental powers just like all the sadako's before but her story was the most different, she was adopted by two horse owners that couldn't have children, she was much more evil than any of her other counterparts and with her mental powers started attacking her adoptive mother and mentally forcing the horses to kill themselves.

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Her mother was so done with this that she personally threw Samara off the well where she died and later revived as a vengeful ghost.

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So why are most of sadako's backstories way too different from each other.

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My country Argentina Is full of people being openly horny pests.

It isn't even a matter of it being a political side because even the more right wing side is also full of horny people who talk about sex all the time, both the left and right in my country are horny as fuck.

Everyone is horny all the time in my country, they make sex jokes all the times, our movies are full of sex, and our music is full of barely clothed women.

Everything is sex and talking very dirty, it feels like people have forgotten to not post about their sexual experiences on twitter and in public on real life.

It feels like exhibitionism.

I hope people won't try to make me out to be this evil puritan but I really am tired of people making sex their personalities.

Are other countries more conservative or liberal in this aspect.

I do have issues with persona 4's writing and not for woke reasons.

For example persona 4 assumes the entire japanese police system is a mysoginistic identity and it seems to have a feminist messaging with naoto's character.

It assumes that Japan's police force and Japan in general is this mysoginistic hell that constantly discriminates women, it plays into a lot of feminist criticisms about Japan that get repeated on places like twitter and reddit, that people infantilize you and hate you in a male dominated field for being a woman.

You know the whole Japan Is a sexist hell for women that gets millions of likes daily.

It feeds those anti-japan messaging from the left and how supposedly patriarchal and oppressive and antiwoman Japan is.

So I kinda want to talk a bit about the differences between one of my favorite films, The RIng, and it's original novel iteration. There's quite a few differences, so I'm going to number them.

since the my favorite films, The RIng, and it's original novel iteration. There's quite a few differences, so I'm going to number them.The novel is pretty awful.

The lead character, Asakawa, is a man who works in a publishing company. He has a baby girl unlike the version of the character in the movie; but unlike that version, book Asakawa doesn't give a shit about his family or his friends, and is a pretty shitty human being in general.

Like, the general unpleasantness of the character is shown in several parts of the novel, including the way he really gives no shits when his wife's niece dies of a mysterious 'illness'. But there's also his friendship with Ryuji... The second lead, Ryuji, isn't Asakawa's ex. Instead, he's Asakawa's old buddy from college. Also, he's a rapist.

In fact, him being a rapist is... so, let me explain. Both of these characters are pretty awful, and you might think they have some kind of character arc. Nope. I genuinely don't get why book Ryuji is a rapist. It's... not good. Not a good idea. Uhh, difference 3. Sadako was a victim of rape. Jesus Christ. So like, there's a LOT to unpack about Sadako in the book. She's... her storyline is mostly like it is in the novel. In life she was a powerful ESP user, and she was murdered and thrown into a well. But for some reason, in the book, she was also raped too. The rapist was, well... Smallpox. Right, hang on to your hat here.

The person who raped Sadako was the last surviving smallpox patient. As a result, Sadako was infected with smallpox. Not just smallpox, though, but the GHOST OF SMALLPOX.I'll explain. So, in the book, smallpox was being eradicated. Wiped out. Therefore, it was dead. Therefore, it had a ghost. And the book is super ambiguous about whether it's Sadako's rage which is infecting her victims via the cursed tape, or whether it's the ghost of smallpox. Really. This makes a whole lot more sense when you remember the climate in Japan when this was written, with the 90s viral outbreaks and gas attacks, but still, Sadako being infected by the ghost of smallpox and spreading that to her victims is pretty stupid.But not as stupid as... Sadako is intersex.

The guy who rapes her, he killed her in a rage because while he was raping her he realized that she has testicles.Can... can I go now?This is so pointless and awful, and adds nothing. I hate it I hate it I hate it AND IT GETS WORSE IN THE SEQUEL Anyway, the rest of the book essentially plays out like it does in the film. Asakawa's child doesn't watch the tape halfway through, because Asakawa's a shitty person who treats his family dreadfully, therefore there's no book 'Kid from The Ring', which is probably for the best. Despite all that, the sequel, Spiral, is a thousand times worse. I... can't actually believe how bad that one is. There's less rape, but there's more outright batshit demented insanity; the kind that makes me think Koji Suzuki hates literature on a very personal level. Okay, sod it, I'll cover Spiral now.This book is best covered in a series of highlights, in order to ensure you get the full force of it. It follows on basically immediately after The Ring, and it will MELT YOUR BRAIN. Spiral follows Ando, an awkward creepy weirdo whose job it is to perform autopsies. Throughout the book he fantasizes about how sexy people's organs must look.

Up first on the slab for an autopsy is his old college buddy Ryuji, who died at the end of Ring. For some reason, the book is really, really keen to make sure you know that Ryuji had a micropenis. I'm not sure why. Perhaps to handwave away the rape thing from the first book. Also, during the autopsy Ando gets really carried away with Ryuji's testicles. Haha, oh Ando.

While performing the autopsy, Ando discovers that Ryuji has a piece of paper with the word Ring inside him. He also tells us that Ryuji was a genuis who loved making codes, and he was the bestest person ever at it. This is relevant in the WORST CHAPTER EVER, later in the book.

Ando starts to research Ryuji's death, and finds out that... okay, brace yourself here... he didn't die from being scared to death. He died from a cancerous tumor which appeared spontaneously in his heart, which was caused by smallpox. Hang on, there's more.

So this leads us toHow Sadako ACTUALLY kills people, as revealed in Spiral.

You see, Spiral isn't actually a horror. The author decided to change how Sadako's curse entirely. So, it's now a multi-step process. Strap in, this is a wild ride. a: you watch the cursed tapeb: the images on the tape subconsciously REWRITE YOUR DNA.c: your DNA changes into a new strain of the smallpox virusd: the smallpox virus causes a fast-acting tumor, which grows over the course of 7 days...e: on day 7, the tumor kills you There's more to this, as we discover later, but... this mess is what the story gives us.Ando investigates the cursed tape as the cause of Ryuji's death. This leads to the writer summarizing THE ENTIRE CONTENT OF THE FIRST BOOK, over the course of SEVERAL CHAPTERS!!!

Like, for almost an entire quarter of the book, the author copy-pastes the plot of the first book instead of writing his current book. It's madness, I tell you. It then gets worse. Ando does tests on Ryuji's DNA, and finds codes. You can play along too at home! No, really - the book includes entire segments where you can decode the genetic puzzle.

He pastes charts, with little keys for the codes, for you to solve at home! I don't even Like, in no book have I ever seen anyone do this before. Imagine if you're reading through a novel and a character is doing a crossword, and the author just fucking PUTS A CROSSWORD INTO THE NOVEL FOR YOU TO DOoh my god

                                      Anyway, remember Mai? No, of course you don't. In the movie, he's the student Ryuji is boning. In the book, she's the same person. Well, She watches Ryuji's cursed tape, and turns up dead. Also at the same time, Ando meets a mysterious woman. Not connected at all.                                                

The book turns into a romance novel as Ando and mystery woman go on dates, fall in love, have passionate sex. Then he wakes up one morning, finds a photo of Sadako, and yells "OH my god I've just boned a ghost!"

This part is going to require so many points, so here we go...When Sadako's weird smallpox curse infected Mai, it had mutated. It also infected her UNBORN BABY, turning the baby into... Sadako. Before she died, Mai gave birth. The baby then super-rapid grew up into Sadako.

Remember how Sadako was intersex in the first Ring book? Well, now she's been reborn, she still is. But as well as testes, she has a working womb. This means, through the power of SOMEHOW, she can use her magic womb to BRING PEOPLE BACK FROM THE DEAD!

I'm not even kidding. She explains to Ando that as long as she can get a sample of someone's DNA, she can... fertilize her own eggs and, with the smallpox virus, mutate the embryo in order to duplicate the dead person's DNA.Sadako has a magic womb which can 3D print people. For the love of me, I don't know why the writer, or his editor, thought this was a good idea. Like, I can just picture his editor sitting there, reading over this and going "Yep, that's fine."Know what? I'm not even finished yet! It was all Ryuji's plan.

He planned the whole thing so that the reborn Sadako would 3D print him back to life. He masterminded the whole thing from beyond the grave, because in Spiral, Ryuji is a crazy 4D-chess playing evil super-genius. And the last point...

Sadako's virus has now mutated. It now cannot only be transmitted through a cursed video tape. It can now be transmitted via a BOOK.And, oh boy. Remember Asakawa? He wrote a book about his investigation. And now it's an international bestseller! Oh no! And you DID read the previous book, Ring, didn't you? Well, now maybe YOU'RE infected too! Wooo.... wiggles fingers at you Jesus Christ, this book's fucking dreck. You trudge through all that mess - the copy-paste of basically the entire first book into the middle of this one, the filling the book with puzzles for you to do at home, the weird obsession with Ryuji's genitals, and it ends up with Sadako's magic 3D-printer womb. I hate it. Now, you may wonder how this is all resolved in the next book, Loop. I mean, with every reader of the original Ring novel in the world about to have their unborn baby turned into a mini Sadako, each Sadako equipped with a magic 3D-printer womb. Well, Loop is VERY INTERESTING... So, in Loop, it is revealed that the first two books ALL TAKE PLACE INSIDE A VIRTUAL REALITY PROGRAM and deal with Sadako's virus trying to escape and get into the real world!I can't evenThis isn't a shocking twist at the end. This is the premise. It's like, "it was all a virtual reality program" is usually a spoiler, but not with this one. This is like 'chapter 1, page 1' kind of a thing. That's the core concept of the book!It's like... god damn anyway, I've yet to fully read Loop. I don't think my mind can take it after Spiral. Not when the core concept is just so batshit insane, coming off the end of two books which just got progressively more and more bizarre. So, I'll leave it up to you.Should I read Loop?(End of thread

No hay nada más que yo deteste que las personas se obsesionen con la homosesuxalidad del género opuesto.

Yo veo que hagas toda tu vida obsesionandote con la homosexualidad de tu sexo contrario te hace un cuck de mierda.

Por eso yo tengo a odiar tanto a los fans masculinos del Yuri como las fujoshis, por que son unos cornudos de mierda.

Son los típicos que se sientan en la silla

I don't know if this post is allowed but before that I want to explain to the moderators that my rant is gonna be about a particular reaction that sex positive leftists have whenever a feminist left winger censors something made for the male gaze in entertainment whether it be anime or video games.

So an argument I hear from sex positive weebs and gamers that are left wingers is that all the left wing feminists that censor attractive female characters in video game are doing it because of their evil and oppressive christian morals they were raised in and that they interiorized it.

Here's the problem, these leftists would always blame the evil Boogeyman that are conservatives and right wingers and will try notruescottmaning any leftists that censors an attractive female character instead of admitting that left wingers are misandrists that think a man finding a woman attractive is the same as being a you know what.

First let's make something clear, whenever a conservative like Matt Walsh or Michael Knowles attack anime, fanservice and all of that they get roasted by the entire internet however a leftist making a post about lolicon, fanservice or the male gaze will get a thousand of likes and people agreeing like a hive mind.

And let's not talk about feminists who censor stuff for the male gaze but you later see them talk about how hot Leon is and making nude mods, I have seen lefties try to argue that this is is some kind of "muh internalized mysogyny, and being afraid of women or something" but what these people are ignoring is that those people don't care about women's sexy body because you see them support women who make only fans.

So in short, is because feminists hate that men find sexy female characters attractive, and people would rather talk about muh internalized mysogyny than talk about how the left is misandrist and assumes men are predators.

And some might argue that well conservatives have been caught with porn, so someone being a puritan doesn't mean they arent a hypocrite and what these people are ignoring is that conservatives that get caught are often doing it in secret while lefties and feminists openly display their lustfulness to mock your attraction to female characters, they do it because they know it's hypocritical and they love watching you suffer.

That's not even ignoring that sexualized male characters are never censored and when they do it's usually so small is almost irrelevant, it has happened but not to the same level that entertainment made for the male gaze has been censored, and anyone arguing the opposite is objectively a liar.

Remember that this is a way lefties purge leftism of all sin and crime imaginable by blaming their action on right wing ism

And about the so called proshippers, these people will tell you that anti lolicons are fascist or something and that being anti-censorship is a leftist position, when the USSR banned pornography because they saw it as capitalist degeneracy, being anti-censorship is a more libertarian position, but these people will call leftist governments like the UK like right wing.

And how about how much they talk about the evil lolibros that hate wokeness and how their wholesome anti-chud shotacon community is so much more wholesome and better, and how lolicons are the spawn of the devil for being right wing.