One-man retrieving session — no bird boy, so we improvise

It’s definitely not the same as having another person out there throwing marks, but we do the best we can.

This is in a little park in the middle of a subdivision, so there are plenty of joggers and people walking dogs on the path around us. I’d like to think working around distractions helps proof the behavior and reinforces she needs to be focused on the task at hand.

Curious if anyone else trains this way or has any good solo retrieving setups.

u/DingoDadLuce — 2 days ago

If you've ever wondered what amateur bird dog training looks like... here you go.

These clips are from some of Lucy's earliest training sessions, and I thought it'd be fun to share them. I think she's around 4-5 months here.

This was before force fetch, before she knew how to heel, before delivery to hand, and back when I was still figuring a lot of it out myself. We are still learning but she’s come a long way.

The camera work is all over the place because I was filming on an iPhone while trying to throw bumpers, and somehow she still manages to run out of frame when I finally put the phone on a tripod.

One thing's for sure—she was having fun.

u/DingoDadLuce — 17 days ago

From tiny puppy to looking like she belongs in the wilderness.

Lucy is a Carolina Dog (American Dingo). She's almost two now, but she was already full of personality from day one.

u/DingoDadLuce — 1 month ago

Looking back, I didn't appreciate it enough

Found a few photos of Lucy from last season.

Looking back, I spent a lot of time worrying about what she wasn't doing yet and not enough time appreciating what she was already doing.

It's funny how that works. You spend all season focused on the missed birds, blown coveys, the mistakes, and then later on, those aren't the things you remember at all. I love this damn dog and had a blast hunting behind her. We had some good moments last season.

What's something your dog did that made you stop and think, "damn, that's a good dog"?

u/DingoDadLuce — 2 months ago

Public Land Quail Hunting with an American Dingo

Lucy’s first season hunting wild bobwhite quail on Texas public land.

She’s a Carolina Dog / American Dingo — definitely not your typical bird dog — but she’s taught me a lot about patience, trust, and letting a dog figure things out naturally.

This clip is the opening montage from a longer documentary-style project I’ve been working on called Goose on the Loose.

u/DingoDadLuce — 3 months ago
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The Carolina Dog experiment

Meet Lucy. She’s not your typical bird dog, but she gets the job done all the same.

She’s a young dog who made all sorts of mistakes during her first hunting season, but she learned a ton. It’s been a blast working with her and getting to see the limits of this breed. Carolina Dogs are a pre-contact landrace breed, so they can be tough to work with. They are native to this continent up to 15,000 years ago. There’s no selective bird-dog breeding working in your favor — just cooperation and raw prey drive.

She’s sweet as pie in the house and hammers dove and quail in the field.

In some of these photos you’ll see what looks like a traditional point. Those are planted quail she found during training. On wild birds she’s developed more of an indication behavior than a classic point. She’ll slam on the brakes and look back at me to let me know there’s a covey around. Sometimes it’s a staunch point, sometimes it’s a full neck crane back at me — we’re still figuring it out together. She has learned the big lesson that wild birds will not accept pressure like planted quail, that was her big takeaway from her first quail season.

She’s become a nice little retriever in the dove field and is an overall joy to be around. I’m excited to see what her second and third hunting seasons look like and where the ceiling is with a dog like this.

u/DingoDadLuce — 3 months ago

Nothing better than training a young dog

This is training from last spring/summer, before Lucy’s first quail season.

She was about 6 - 9 months. It was a lot of fun seeing her figure it out.

Edit: Lucy is a Carolina Dog/American dingo, not a traditional bird dog breed. The pointing work is something we’ve been developing with her over the last year as an experiment.

u/DingoDadLuce — 3 months ago

Looking for a bird dog training partner in San Marcos

I’m looking for someone in the San Marcos area who might want to help with bird dog training a few times a month (around 4x/month).

Mostly just need help throwing bumpers/dummies for retriever drills and training setups. I’d be happy to return the favor and help work your dog too, buy lunch, etc.

Not looking for a pro trainer. More looking for somebody interested in bird dogs who might want to learn, get involved in training work, or just spend time around dogs and hunting setups.

I’m training a Carolina Dog (“American dingo”) on quail and retrieves.

Shoot me a message if interested.

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u/DingoDadLuce — 3 months ago

Force to a Pile help * UPDATE

So Lucy and I got some great feedback from this subreddit on how to push through some growing pains on force to pile.

We added a white pole with a trashbag on top to help indicate the pile and we have been working at a closer distance in the yard. I have added light collar pressure taps while sending her. I have tried to make it fun and keep it light when she messes up and keep expectations low. This was our first attempt at longer distances since our new game plan.

Its still a work in progress as you can see in her first send, she is still lacking a bit of confidence but once she gets past the first 10 yards her confidence builds and she stays online towards the pile.

The second send is about 40-50 yards and she stays on target although she is not running very hard until she passes the first 10-20 yards, then she kicks it into gear and finishes strong.

Thanks for all of your help, you guys have great insight and its paying off! Good luck this off season progressing on yall’s goals!

u/DingoDadLuce — 3 months ago
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I’m working on pile work and running into a bit of an issue I can’t quite solve.

I think the isue is that when my dog can see the pile, she drives to it well. But once we stretch it just out of sight, she doesn’t seem to have the same confidence to drive to the pile when I send her. I will send her, she will take a few steps then look back at me like “whats up bro, where am I going?” I will have done 3-4 reps to the same pile at 20, 30, 40 yards, but once we hit 50 she isn't looking out at the pile as hard (not really at all) and seems to lose focus on what the goal is. Can she not see it or is the distance making her lose confidence? It's not a steady decrease in running hard, its binary, she runs hard at 40 and then gets confused at 50 yards. For those of you who have worked through this, how did you transition from visible pile work to a pile just outside the dog’s sight range?

First dog, 1.5 year old. Working in a short cut strip of grass along a fence to just one pile with about 10 bumpers scattered, with a white 5 gallon bucket behind the pile elevated so she can see it. No shopping when she gets down there, just confusion on the send.

Thanks in advance for the help!

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u/DingoDadLuce — 4 months ago