▲ 11 r/Seether

The songs that could still be played

I'm grateful for the switched up setlists already, but for those asking, these are the songs that could still appear.

Most likely:

Tied My Hands, Fur Cue, Roses.

There is precedent for both Tied My Hands and Fur Cue being played live, they're both on the band's lists of old songs to potentially revisit, and they both resonate with most fans. Personally, I love Tied My Hands more than anything. If they played this gut punch instead of Broken, it'd be cool. Roses has been mentioned more than once as something to bring back, and is also featured on the band's list.

Possible:

Beg, Nothing Left, Sold Me, Same Damn Life.

These are all songs that have been brought up to potentially be played again. I'm not holding my breath for Beg and Nothing Left, though they're certainly possible, and there is live precedent for both. They're fun, but exhausting songs to play. Sold Me has precedent as well, and has even been revisited recently, if I remember correctly. The sets have already been pretty Disclaimer/D2 heavy, though, so who knows. They'll probably pull this one out for like, one night, at some point. Same Damn Life is a B single, something that'd still please general audiences, but that they haven't played much recently. Personally, I could take or leave it. It doesn't always translate well live, admittedly, and I feel it's had its time in the sun already. The spot could be better used.

Unlikely:

Simplest Mistake, Dead and Done, Save Today.

All of these have been mentioned, but I feel we probably won't see them. I think Simplest Mistake is probably just too long for their tight set, and it isn't particularly easy to casually play. Dead and Done has the same drawbacks as Beg and Nothing Left, being that the screams are demanding, but without even the precedent of being played live. Shaun and Corey do like it though, and I think this song would go fucking crazy live, so here's hoping. I think Save Today is probably the most feasible of this bunch, but it's also kind of a B single, not the first I'd reach for if I were looking for deep cuts. Though I'd be happy to see it, it may be similar to Same Damn Life, in the sense that the spot in the setlist would be better saved for something else. Isolate and Medicate may only get its representation from Words As Weapons and Nobody Praying for Me.

Not gonna happen:

Pretty much anything else. I'd be happy to eat my words here, but the above songs, plus what they've played already, are what the band has discussed and/or prepared for. Anything else will hopefully get a chance on another day.

So there it is, realistic expectations. No matter what else they play, if anything, I'm more excited to see the band than I have been in years, and I don't think I could ask for much more.

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u/Disclaimer_II — 5 days ago

Seether, Sweet Home Alabama, 2008

This is one I never thought I'd see, lol. From YouTube channel, gu1tarister, this was apparently taken during a "technical difficulties" break.

Video here

u/Disclaimer_II — 7 days ago
▲ 23 r/Seether

A couple of ATL show thoughts

The experience hearing the switched up setlist live was insane. When they opened up with Illusion, someone next to me was mind blown like "What the fuck??" When Shaun got to the screams, someone was like, "woah," then a bunch of younger dudes behind me were excitedly trying to sort of mimick it. There was this general vibe of, "oh, holy shit, didn't know Seether was like that" lol. Hearing a guy screaming to Pride that definitely wasn't even born when it came out made my heart swell. Shaun and crew were clearly excited as fuck, and the energy was crazy contagious. Shaun said he was a little terrified to be breaking out new live songs, but if he was, I couldn't tell it.

The big social media push, which I've not been super into previously, has definitely made a difference. I was wrong. The crowd was probably 60% really excited young people as opposed to the usual, predominantly genx makeup I've seen. And get this, they went FUCKING NUTS for Fine Again, way moreso than Broken, I think. Conversely they didn't seem to vibe as much with Country Song from where I was, which is fine. To someone new, it's probably an even bigger curveball than the heavy stuff.

The band's energy was big. They were tearing shit up in a way I haven't seen in a while. Illusion, Forsaken, Pride, Failure, in addition to some other cool shit like Dangerous, were just so fuckin good. Everyone involved really just brought their best. Much love, everyone, it's going to be a good year.

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u/Disclaimer_II — 1 month ago
▲ 27 r/Seether

Come say hello at the Atlanta show!

If you see me in line or on the floor with my wife, come say hello!

u/Disclaimer_II — 1 month ago
▲ 15 r/Seether

Made a lil TSSSF themed controller for anyone that's into games, thought I'd share.

Weird post, sure, but eh it's slow in here. I just ordered this! Excited to get it in later this week.

u/Disclaimer_II — 2 months ago

Outsider's Perspective, NO SPOILERS

I've never played ME, not really. Gave it a try some years back, didn't like it at the time. Just wasn't ready, I guess. I also tried Andromeda once, which I'm told was a bad idea. My only exposure to the game otherwise, was seeing discussion about romances online, and seeing people hold it up as some kind of holy grail of gaming in almost every discussion. I thought to myself, "There's just no way it's all that. No way it has that much depth. Besides, all I've ever seen people talk about online are the romance options!"

Imagine my fucking surprise when I got the legendary edition on sale, determined to revisit this thing, and found that it really is THAT game.

It's impossible not to play this game and see where a million projects since took their inspiration from. The universe is interesting, the characters are compelling, there's just so much here. Everything about this game is grand and charming and just pulls you in so completely.

Really, I need to apologize for ever doubting this franchise. When you guys said it was the absolute pinnacle of a better generation of gaming, you were right. What a work of art. Truly, they do not make em like this anymore.

**for anyone curious, spoilers**

>!Just finished the first game! I lost Ashley and the council. I was able to bring Wrex around regarding the Genophage cure. I was able to make Saren see reason, but it was ultimately too late. We defeated Sovereign and I appointed Captain Anderson to head the council. I'm on good terms with the whole crew. Moving on to the second now.!<

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u/Disclaimer_II — 2 months ago
▲ 20 r/Seether

I guess they're gonna keep up with this. Neat!

If you know (or know much about) Johnny, some of these are definitely not surprising. Very curious what the other two would/will choose.

u/Disclaimer_II — 2 months ago

Games to play while I wait?

I'm really hyped for the game, and don't have anywhere to put all this excitement for a big space opera. Any recommendations to hold me over? I've already played Mass Effect.

I asked this for Cyberpunk 2077 pre launch and ended up with one of my favorite games of all time, Deus Ex.

Thanks!

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u/Disclaimer_II — 2 months ago

Saints Row The Third Retrospective

Me and my wife just replayed the entire series together, and what stuck out to me the most, was how abysmally bad SR3 is. I'm gonna pick it apart, mostly just to get my own thoughts out, but also to see if anyone feels the same about this overrated mess.

And that's just what it is, right? Overrated. SR fans hold it up as some kind of wonderful compromise between 2 and 4, when it's really the worst of both, a game that does nothing uniquely well. It's characters are just ugly caricatures of the 2010's, it's story is nonsensical and borderline non-existent, and it's open world is, no contest, the most lifeless, boring, personality-less, dead thing I've ever seen. The whole game is a hollow vehicle for the dev's cornball GenX chungus humor and very little else besides.

I'm not bound to nostalgia by any means, but playing it right after 2, it's impossible not to compare. Impossible not to notice just how much less there is to do in 3. The effort from the devs is just not here. The activities are incredibly dull and frustrating, the customization is half what it was, the interiors and map variety are gone, the illusion of freedom in a big sandbox is lost. Not to mention, it's buggy as all hell, especially in co-op.

What surprised me though, is how even 4 was a step up. 4 at least KNOWS what it is. It gives you some fun stuff to fool around with, and despite how absurd it is, actually takes its premise and characters seriously at times. Weirdly, it treats the OG games with much more reverence than their direct sequel did. It also at least remembers to be a fun game first, rather than JUST a parody, which was such a relief after toiling through 3.

I couldn't believe how much time and, I guess, nostalgia had warped my perspective of SR3. Couldn't believe what a chore it was. It's a crass, gray, ugly dick joke wrapped up like a video game. It peaks in the first hour and then nosedives off a cliff, never to recover. What a sad hunk of shit. Should've turned it off as soon as "Power" wrapped up.

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u/Disclaimer_II — 3 months ago

Protomolecule timeline?

Just wtf was the protomolecule DOING prior to creating the ring gate?

So the PM's ultimate goal was to create the gate, okay, cool. Why was it dissecting and and trying to understand humans? What purpose did the hybrids serve on its end? Zombies, flying Eros, a ring..? It does one thing, then another, then, seemingly randomly, another, with no clear line or plan between them. Was the goal always to establish a certain mass and build the ring, and human intervention is to blame for everything else? The show always moves on to the next thing before anything with the PM at the time makes sense.

Unless, and I'm hoping this is the case, I'm just slow and have seriously misunderstood something. Is there anywhere I can go to fully understand the timeline here? Finished the show, wrapping up book one.

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u/Disclaimer_II — 3 months ago