u/DisconnectedShark

I've been testing this for the past week, and I can pretty confidently say RCS messages are not [always] saved to your phone's database.

I know RCS messages are supposedly saved as MMS into your phone's SMS/MMS database, mmssms.db. And that has been true for years.

Sometime recently, Google changed this to no longer be the case.

If I receive an RCS message, it'll show up in Google Messages. If I then clear the app data for Google Messages, the received message will be gone. It will not come back, even after 48 hours (the most I have waited is 96 hours/4 days).

After receiving the RCS message, I have waited varying time periods, sometimes over a day, before clearing the app data. It will usually disappear but sometimes will stay. I can't tell what the difference is between the persistent and non-persistent messages.

I have even received RCS messages, did a backup using Android's built-in backup to a Google account, and then I cleared the app data. The RCS messages do not come back.

Interestingly, if I send an RCS message, then it will be restored after clearing the app data. Almost instantly. It will, of course, be displayed as an MMS message.

I tested this on a Samsung S24 with previous versions of the app as well as the current beta version.

I have also used a couple of third-party apps to check, and the messages are just gone. I used SMS Backup & Restore, Super Backup & Restore, as well as SMS Import / Export. All of them show the same thing, that my sent RCS messages are saved but not my incoming ones.

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u/DisconnectedShark — 18 days ago

Two days ago, I was both receiving and sending messages in an RCS group chat. I then cleared the data of the Google Messages app, and only some of those messages have returned. Specifically, I have my outbound messages, but I do not have the inbound messages that were sent to me before my outbound message.

I am also missing some SMS messages from 2024.

I've read some other posts, and I see them say that it can take a few hours to restore all my old conversations, but I would expect it to not take this long.

Anyone know what the issue is? Are my messages lost forever?

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u/DisconnectedShark — 25 days ago