What’s your most “Progressive Take” on Christianity?
That’s the whole question. You’re welcome to interpret it and answer it however you choose as long as you follow the sub rules. 😉
That’s the whole question. You’re welcome to interpret it and answer it however you choose as long as you follow the sub rules. 😉
I’m curious how this community defines what it means to be a “Trad Wife”.
How do y’all define the term?
How did you navigate the situation once you realized you did not agree with or could not comply with a non-negotiable belief or practice of your faith community?
If you’re an American (or expat) Christian, how do you feel about American Independence Day?
Do you celebrate? If so, how? What are your traditions?
If not, why not?
Has it changed over the years?
Do you have a favorite 4th of July memory you’d like to share?
Does your church recognize the holiday in regular or special services, and/or with special events?
Looking for good accounts to follow, not necessarily Christian content but just good stuff of really any variety.
There's an interesting, short article that's trending on the religious website Patheos. The title is, "Are We Idolizing The Bible?"
I think this is a great piece to discuss. If you're interested, would you give it a quick read and then share your thoughts?
Here's a link: https://www.patheos.com/articles/are-we-idolizing-the-bible?
I'll include a few of the quotes I found particularly interesting for discussion:
>Jesus didn’t treat scripture as many modern-day Christians do, considering them to be too elevated to question, reinterpret, or reframe.
>We cannot read the Gospels honestly without accepting that Jesus broke, reinterpreted, and overrode the Law throughout his teaching and ministry. I can only conclude that though Jesus loved the scriptures, meditated on them, memorized them, and quoted them, he did not see holy texts as inerrant in the way that many modern Christians do.
>If our understanding of a particular book or passage contradicts what we see in Jesus, we should put it to one side and ask the Holy Spirit to open our eyes to what it is really saying.
>If we try to rely on the Bible for precision or full instruction, we make it an idol. It is not an unquestionable manual for life but instead reflects the unfolding Gospel narrative over about 1500 years, along with the perspective and limitations of each writer.
Agree? Disagree? What are your thoughts on this?
We're starting a new weekly tradition here in r/Christian that we're calling “TACObout it Tuesday.” Each Tuesday we're planning to share a post dedicated to discussion on the writings of an author whose work is considered “spicy.” (You know...like good tacos.)
Sprinkle's (authored or co-authored) Top Ten most popular titles are:
Erasing Hell: What God Said About Eternity, and the Things We've Made Up
Embodied: Transgender Identities, the Church, and What the Bible Has to Say
People to Be Loved: Why Homosexuality Is Not Just an Issue
Fight: A Christian Case for Non-Violence
From Genesis to Junia: An Honest Search for What the Bible Really Says About Women in Leadership
Exiles: The Church in the Shadow of Empire
Charis: God's Scandalous Grace for Us
Does the Bible Support Same-Sex Marriage: 21 Conversations from a Historically Christian View
Living in a Gray World: A Christian Teen's Guide to Understanding Homosexuality
Grace/Truth1.0: Five Conversations Every Thoughtful Christian Should Have About Faith, Sexuality and Gender
Here are 10 quotes from Sprinkle, for you consideration and discussion:
>“Our truth will not be heard until our grace is felt, because the greatest apologetic for truth is love.”
>“the most visible form of Jesus’s not-of-this-world kingdom is the radical, head-turning love of one’s enemies, even (or especially) when we are suffering at their hands. Peter mentions this cruciform enemy-love no fewer than ten times in five chapters, making it the artery of the letter.”
>“I think scientific discussions and debates are important, especially when people are making claims about human nature that rely on questionable science (let alone questionable theology). But correct science and correct theology are pointless if we’re not willing to love and honor, listen to and learn from, care for and be cared for by the trans* people God has gifted us with.”
>“If the world out-loves the church, then we have implicitly nudged our children away from the loving arms of Christ.”
>“Shallow answers to complex questions are offensive to our God-given minds and they fail to shape our hearts into being more like Jesus.”
>“It’s tough to follow Jesus while clutching on to our rights, our honor, our reputation. This kingdom stuff isn’t for the fainthearted.”
>“Many of our beliefs about masculinity and femininity come from culture rather than the Bible, even though we sometimes rubber stamp these cultural norms with the label 'biblical.'”
>“Jesus’s central message was not primarily about how to get to heaven when you die, or about becoming a better person. The central message of Jesus was about the coming of God’s kingdom.”
>“We can get the Bible right—but if we get love wrong, we’re wrong.”
>“...You can enter into a humanity-affirming relationship with gay and lesbian people. A relationship without footnotes. A loving friendship that doesn't begin with "where you stand" on the "issue" of homosexuality, since Jesus didn't take this approach. Take a stand, yes, but take a stand on love. That radical, counter-cultural grace that drew sinners and tax collectors to Jesus. Jesus actually did talk about that.”
[If you have an author you'd like to recommend for a future TACObout it Tuesday, feel free to send the mod team a message with your suggestion.]
Aside from the Bible, which authors (and/or specific book titles) do you recommend for encouraging and fueling spiritual growth?
I saw a post in another sub recently where the OP asked a very interesting question I hadn't considered before. Since I didn't see a lot of helpful or satisfying responses, I thought I'd ask about it here.
Basically, the person asking wanted to know why there weren't foretellings from Jesus about the coming of Paul. Their premise is that there weren't any from Jesus and that they thought there should have been since 1. Paul was a significant part of God's plan of salvation for Gentiles and 2. The other equivalent significant figures in the Bible had their coming foretold by prior significant figures of the Bible. (Prophets foretold of John the Baptist, John foretold of Jesus, etc.)
I'm asking it a little differently, however.
Do you think there's a foretelling about Paul (specifically) in the Bible anywhere? If so, where?
If not, what do you make of this question? Do you find it odd that there wasn't a foretelling of Paul coming to share the Gospel with Gentiles? How would you helpfully respond to a person struggling with this question?
I'd also ask that everyone remember Rule 2. It's all too common for difficult questions to be met with personal attacks or dismissive rejections of the question. But I think this is an interesting and valid concern someone brought up and I'd like to see how our thoughtful, compassionate community here in r/Christian would approach that concern.
This past week, the State Board of Education in Texas voted to add Bible passages to the list of required reading in public schools across Texas.
This is obviously a controversial decision.
Here’s a link to more on that from AP News: https://apnews.com/article/texas-education-board-reading-list-bible-vote-eb6ea9e23e303da0ca2da6132889e020
This week’s community poll is about whether or not you support this specific decision, but more broadly intended to welcome discussion on the general topic as well. Please use the comment section to discuss.
I’m asking here about things like:
social groups for unchurched Christians or people interested in Christianity but not yet ready to join a church
House church, Bible studies, or small groups without a “regular” church’s oversight
Book clubs for spiritual growth
Basically if you’ve ever been a part of a group meeting regularly for Christian fellowship, worship, Bible study, or some type of spiritual growth, but not organized under a church’s oversight, I’d like to hear about it.
What worked? What didn’t? What did you appreciate about it? What were the weaknesses or downsides? Etc
If we’re given an option to follow ALL comments on a selected post, this would allow users interested in the full discussion to be alerted to every comment thereafter (not just the new Top Level comments as is the case now.)
Personally, I want this option for discussions I’m interested in because down thread discussion is easy to miss when you have to walk away. Instead of having to refresh and scroll back through tons of content looking for new comments, a notification for down thread comments would save time and be more efficient.
As a mod, I want this option so I don’t have to go back and scroll through the entire comment section to find the newest down-thread comments on a controversial post that has potential for conflict. I have a way to set all comments to go to the queue for moderation, but sometimes that’s not necessary right away, yet I still want to keep an eye on a potential firestorm. I want alerts, but not mod queue items that someone has to work. This option would fill that gap efficiently.
A comment in another sub has me thinking and I’m curious to hear what people in this community think.
How would you define the terms “Trad Wife” and “Radical Feminist”?
Further, do you think it’s possible for a woman to fit the definition of both terms at the same time?
That’s the whole question. You’re welcome to interpret it and answer it however you choose as long as you follow the sub rules. 😉
I’m working on a little project and would love to hear your suggestions for authors who have what you might call “spicy” theological views. This could be those with controversial or unusual views or who say very orthodox things but in unorthodox ways.
I’m especially interested in those whose books have really made you think, even if you don’t agree with their views.
Which authors and/or specific books would you suggest?
I’m working on a little project and would love to hear your suggestions for authors who have what you might call “spicy” theological views. This could be those with controversial or unusual views or who say very orthodox things but in unorthodox ways.
I’m especially interested in those whose books have really made you think, even if you don’t agree with their views.
Which authors and/or specific books would you suggest?
Does anyone else find it interesting how often our (Christians) definition of “sex” shifts, depending on the topic?
For example, when talking about masturbation some Christians will refer to it as sex and condemn it as a sin, but if someone asks if their spouse masturbating to other people is cheating, the same people will often say it doesn’t count as cheating because they aren’t actually having sex.
For another example, I’ve often watched some Christians define sex as “PIV only” when the topic is “virginity” and what “counts” as not being a “virgin”, but when the topic is homosexuality, suddenly even kissing is considered “sex” by the same people.
Has anyone else noticed these shifting definitions? Is it simply our human tendency toward self-justification? Is there more to it? Do you think people who do that even notice that they’re doing it? Have you ever caught yourself shifting definitions on this?
Please remember Sub Rules 2 & 5 while discussing. (Show Charity, Be Respectful, LGBTQ+ Inclusive)
This week’s poll is about how you came to be a Christian. As always, please use the comment section to share more on your response or to share an answer that wasn’t given as an option.
This is from a post that was removed as spam, but was generating good discussion so I am reposting part of the original content to allow discussion to continue here:
“(…) the reading plan took me into Numbers 5, specifically the verses about a husband who suspects his wife of cheating. I had never read this passage before, and as a woman, it felt like an absolute punch to the gut.
The law literally states that if a husband is just jealous or suspicious—even without any proof—the priest takes the wife, makes her drink a mixture of holy water and dirt from the tabernacle floor, and pronounces a curse over her. The text literally says that if she’s guilty, her womb will miscarry and her thigh will rot, and she will become a curse among her people. But if the husband is wrong, nothing happens to him at all.
How is this fair? Why is the burden and the physical suffering placed entirely on the woman based purely on a husband's jealousy? It feels so deeply patriarchal and cruel, and it reads like a magical curse or a forced miscarriage ritual, which goes against everything I’ve been taught about sanctity of life and God’s justice.
I am having a massive crisis trying to understand how this reflects a loving, protective God. How do Christian women process this passage without feeling completely degraded by ancient law? If anyone has a perspective that can help me make sense of this, please share it, because right now I feel like throwing my phone across the room and giving up on the Old Testament entirely.”
For Americans, today is Juneteenth. For those unfamiliar with the holiday, here's a link from InterVarsity Press ("What Is Juneteenth? How Christians Can Engage with Black History") for some basic information, resources, and ideas.
If this is a day you honor, please share more about that with the community.