PAWS, Obsessive thoughts, and Mitra-9 Seltzers. 30 days clean from 10 years of kratom use
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Hey everyone. I've been using powder kratom on and off for a decade but these last two years I've been drinking up to two mitra 9 seltzers a day. I decided to skip a can of mitra and woke up with obsessive, torturous thoughts and body aches. This led me to do a 4 week taper which led to some sleepless nights. I'm proud to say that I'm 30 days clean today.
However, despite being an outgoing person with a loving wife and good health. I'm having mental health problems to the point where I've thought about getting on SSRI's. Every day I've been increasingly getting those intrusive, obsessive, looping thoughts again over the most petty things. Such as latching onto old friendships, past beefs, ex lovers, being unfollowed on social media. Just childish things. And I can't stop analyzing past conversations from social media for clues about how people feel about me. It's like there's a black cloud lingering in my subconscious. The worst of this happens when I wake up and then go to sleep, I'm usually ok when I'm active and focusing on other things.
The weird part is that I went cold turkey the powder kratom for a month 3 years ago and experienced nothing like this. It makes me wonder if it's the little bit of extra 7-OH that's in those seltzers that's kicking my ass.
Questions:
Did anyone else get obsessive rumination and looping thoughts as part of PAWS? How long before it faded?
Anyone able to compare withdrawal/PAWS from 7-OH stuff (Mitra 9, extract shots) vs plain leaf?
What actually moved the needle for you? exercise, psychedelics, supplements, or just time?
Did the wake-up spike improve on any predictable timeline?
To be honest I've been using low dose THC drinks at night for over a week for relief as well as kava, classic substance swapping that I'm considering cutting off. I'm on Wellbutrin and low-dose prescribed Adderall (psychiatrist knows everything), just started NAC, and thinking about psychotherapy. I'm Asking here for the lived experiences most doctors can't really give. Thank you so much.