The biggest thing pushing me to quit is the anger. I'm tapering down and it's going ok but I keep getting these fits of rage. Stupid little things setting me off that shouldn't and then I just spiral.
I feel like when I started taking less is when it really turned on me. It seems like now, every time I dose (usually a small dose) I get so damn irritable. Is it because I'm taking small doses?
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It’s crazy that we are still dealing with a lack of awareness around Kratom, 7OH etc… I was down BAAAD for about 6 months using feel free then 7OH (about a year ago). Sent me to the hospital a few times due to major panic attacks. Things I never thought I would experience
My mom just shared this text from one of my family members. Just copied and pasted what was sent to her. Shows the reality of what it does to the person taking it and your family / friends. It could be you at any time, even though it feels so unlikely. Be safe out there, I promise it’s better on the other side. Stop giving power to companies that will take everything away from you.
My beautiful and loving siblings. I’m trying to be strong but need your love and support. Today was supposed to be a day of joy and excitement as are plan was to head up to our new life in Virginia. Lauren was found unresponsive on Saturday morning. I had to call 911. Long story short she has become addicted to what we think is kratom which can be found in gas stations and local smoke shops. She is in the ICU at Tampa General on a ventilator helping her breathe. She was heavily sedated so Saturday she wasn’t responding to commands. Yesterday she is more responsive and is understanding commands such as squeeze hands and she is understanding when you ask questions by nodding her head yes or no. That alone was a blessing. They were gonna try to take the vent out, but she has fluid in her lungs, so hopefully today the vent will come out and she will continue to heal. Once they get her oxygen at a good level, they’ll probably transfer her to a regular floor. Unfortunately, this is the second incident that has happened within a month. I found her in April in the same condition, but she wasn’t nearly as advanced, and she was only on an air supply. That was a piece of cake compared to what she is going through now. Watching her yesterday struggle with the vent was heartbreaking. Our life has been turned upside down but I have faith she’s gonna be OK but she’s gonna need a lot of help. She had already accepted a job in Richmond, but I’m not sure what’s gonna happen with that. She needs a lot of help both rehab wise and mentally. For her to do this again, knowing how dangerous it was the last time is unfathomable. For her to make a choice to do this to herself shows she has an addiction issue. So I am just trying to figure out the next step. I have a lot of support here and I know I have support with my siblings. I have to be out of my house today. I have no furniture and I’m gonna be staying with a friend. Fortunately Finley is in boarding so I don’t have him to worry about. Today my electricity gets turned off and I close on the house. I don’t understand why this is happening, but I trust God is trying to get her on a right path. She obviously didn’t learn the lesson last time and she had promised she wouldn’t go back to this stuff. I don’t know if she took too strong of a dose again or mixed it with some of her other meds. Once she can talk about it, she needs to be forthright and honest. I feel like there’s been a lot of lying and I am just heartbroken and angry with her. I am also angry that this stuff can just be sold over-the-counter. Now that I’ve come to terms that this is a real issue I’ve heard from other people I know that have had relatives or friends that have gone through the same thing. So it’s not only the addiction, but it spills over into her finances too. So it’s a mess. Please pray for us that her path will be set straight spiritually, mentally, emotionally and physically. It’s going to be a hard for her but I have faith she will turn herself around with rehab, counseling and lots of prayers. I am sure you all have questions, but I have shared everything at this point. Love to all of you
She is resting. Tried to give her another breathing test this morning after they took her off sedation, but she was very agitated so they’re gonna try again later. But when they gave her one yesterday, I was standing there and helping her calm down so hopefully that will happen again today. And then if that happens and she’s good to go that tube will come out and then we can move forward so that’s something to please pray for.
So apparently she had fentanyl in her system. She is improving in her conversations but there is lagging. She is answering questions. She wasn’t able to sit up on her own so the OT person used a hoist to get her out of the bed and sit her on a chair so she could sit up. Her friend is there braiding her hair. She’s getting some movement back on the left side as far as being able to squeeze her hand now. they are gonna do an MRI tomorrow or the next day to check on any type of deficiencies in her brain, but she’s pleasant now she’s not irritated and she’s happy to see us. It’s gonna be a long road but she’s in good care here.
She is alert and talking and feels like my Lauren is back. She is understanding what happened and didn’t even realize that she had a vent until I showed her a pic. I shared my anger and all the feelings about this and how much it’s affected her as well as everyone else. She is feeling the impact. She knows she needs help. So the plan is not set in stone, but when she is released from the hospital, she will need to go straight into rehab for physical and occupational therapy. It would be impatient and she would stay there for one to two weeks with 5 to 7 days of intense therapy. She has to be able to be independent before going into any kind of rehab for addiction if that’s the next step. We are getting there
1 year quit today. 1st 90 days were rough. 2nd 90 days were better. Last 6 months have been beautiful. Stay strong quitters.
Hi, i need advices. I took kratom 20-30g daily for 2 years. I finally get through withdrawal and now im 1 month clean. I feel fine, but i noticed problem. On kratom i could have sex for 1+ hour no problem, i was like porn star. But Now after stopping i have basically PE, i can last 10 seconds max lol. My question Is, did you had the same problem after quitting and did it fix? Also any advices how to help it ? Thanks
Seen a lot of RLS posts so hopefully this helps someone. 3 years ago quit a huge kratom powder habit over 60 grams per day. Got gabapentin from quickmd. Gabapentin made the withdrawals about 80% easier. Ive quit large doses of kratom 12 times for reference. Didn't sleep for 5 days post quit last time. Gabapentin got me 8 hours on day 1. Wont quit without it now. I got it from quickmd. They are still around but idk about the price. They didnt take insurance last time. Gotta add I found even small doses of magnesium supplements made gabapentin not work. Before gabapentin I megadosed magnesium for RLS. So I tried both that time and didn't work together. Some people here say gabapentin doesn't work, I get it. Everybody is different for sure. But for me wds are 80% easier.
Every time I mention it people say that it can causes wds itself or its addicting. To that I say I only used for 3 weeks daily then stopped. There were no wds. Maybe if I went longer. It was also a lower dose 900 mgs per day split into 3 doses but was prescribed a lot more. That dose cut out the RLS completely for me. Someone posted a few months ago they used gabapentin for 2 months and didn't get withdrawals. Personally I don't find it addicting it makes me feel foggy which I don't like lol but worked for kratom quitting. To each their own! **Worked with 7oh BUT at a higher dose. Lower doses of gabapentin didn't really touch the RLS from 7oh for me. Tbh I can't remember the exact dose I used for quitting 7oh so sorry about that but it did work eventually. Hope this helps someone!
Ended up having a 4 day lapse. I had extract shots 4 days in a row. After 501 days clean. I feel so ashamed and overwhelmed. I really hope I don’t go through withdrawal. I told my doctor how much anhedonia and depression I’ve had from PAWS. She wrote me an antidepressants that works on dopamine. I hope it helps. I am done with this lapse. I just want to get through this rough time and learn how to live again. I just wanted relief from the PAWS which I know with my history of length of use, it can last anywhere to 2 years. I just am barely motivated or have energy to do anything. So.. I hope the med helps. I hate that I let myself relapse for 4 days… but I’m getting back to it. Just really need some kindness and love right now. My wife knows about the first day but I’ve kept the last additional 3 days to myself. I don’t know how to tell her.
I started taking it because ever since I went through a near death experience and woke from a month long coma, my RLS (restless leg syndrome) has ruled my life. I had RLS before but not to the extent where it would even cause my hand to have tremors. This all started at the end if 2021. Its just progressed to the point where i just couldnt sleep unless i drugged my self with what ever i could find Benadryl, cough syrup, i even tried getting meds from doctors they would prescribe. They would put me to sleep but it felt like the worst sleep and on top of it I would wake up like a zombie dizzy hardly coherent. It was better to not sleep then to be that. Not to mention I have pain in my chest from my injury and causes me to cough all the time and hard too really wicked nasty. So im uncomfy all the time but gets worse toward the end if day. Mind you im a very stubborn willfull human. Probably why I survived the whole ordeal plus my Lord Jesus.
Fast forward a few years latter i hear about Kratom and im like fuck it since i cant get prescription pills ima try this whats the worst that can happen? Im feeling shitty all the time, cant keep or find a job for various reasons at the time do to health.
First time i tried it didnt do anything (didnt take enough actually. Took two pills from a container i bought).
Two weeks later tried it again. Felt like i took 30mg of norco and was spiraling. But got hella good sleep. Then i got sleep apnea and blamed kratom and stopped taking it for almost year.
Decided to take it again and did a whole bunch of research and experimenting. Found that 5grams was a sweet spot for me. No sleep apnea and no restless leg syndrome.
I have been sleeping really good for almost a year.
Its been so good I got confident enough to try and not take it twice in the last two weeks hoping my ailments of RLS were gone.
The first night the RLS kicked in like normal and the second time i thought i was good i went to bed after a long day of moving and a concert even got some amazing head before bed and thought sure fire I dont need it and went to pass out.
I woke up with a panic attack and crazy RLS full swing. Immediately went for some magnesium (RLS is supposedly linked to iron and magnesium absorbing process deficiency) and Kratom.
15 mins later all better as I type this.
Curious if anyone has used Kratom for RLS and or any other debilitating health conditions.
What are treatments.?
I dont like the idea of being dependent on this but i have yet to find a doctor that could help me and ive tried so many things that it get discouraging.
Kratom has really been a life saver for me but I hate being in any situation like when i went camping and i forgot to bring it and destroyed my weekend.
Dumb choice, take a little 7oh while on the monthly shot, the 7oh turned into a full blown relapse, anyone else experienced quitting the 7 while on the shot?
I’m debating two diff options to detox and get a few days clean. 1 is getting 1 sub strip to get 2-3 days off extracts and then jump from sub in 3 days
2. Get this peptide and apply the same approach. Do one week and then jump after a week
I’m wondering if anyone thinks the chances of just using one as a bridge has a greater chance of success? Just looking for some insight and not just totally trust my addict brain.
So I’m fairly certain I’m gonna be jumping off 15-20gpd this weekend due to the 4 days I have off work. I’ve slow tapered Kratom in the past to get off….I used plain leaf to get off 7oh, and I CT a 5 year opiate addiction about a year ago. Anyways I did all that without helper meds. I’m going to get some vitamin C Lip today, I got magnesium glycinate yesterday. Also have about 15 gabapentin and a couple trazadone….Ive read you can’t really use the magnesium and the gabapentin together. Ok got it, what about the gabapentin and magnesium with the vitamin C? Will the vitamin C work with the other stuff or is it better to just use 1 or the other ?
Obligatory, I am not a doctor, I am self medicating, this is not advice, I can’t condone my method.
For anyone who hasn’t been following I’ve taken a sort of radical “brute force” approach which has allowed me to stave off cravings and withdrawal.
Recap with corrections
Day 0-kratom in the morning, 10mg Valium to sleep
Day 1- woke up in full withdrawl. 4mg suboxone for the first time, best day
Day 2- 10mg Valium morning, 10 at night
Day 3 - completely sober
Day 4 - adderall in the morning, long productive day, 10mg Valium to sleep, didn’t work, another 10, nothing. Meal>hot bath>Non thc CBD. Sleep
Day 5- sober all day, exhausted all day, tough one, ended up missing the gym because I was just so tired and drinking a couple beers, smoked cbd and I was OUT.
Issue: I don’t drink for the specific reason that even a small amount of alcohol gives me debilitating long lasting hangovers. I believe I slept 9-2:30am, drank one more and slept until 9. Despite drinking a ton of water I still woke up feeling like complete ass.
Solution: as a (sadly) experienced drug user I knew what to do, and took a 2mg Xanax bar. Dangerous shit, haven’t taken any in weeks but hangover was cured.
Side note: i am diagnosed with general anxiety so Xanax and klonopin affect me quite differently than others. Brain fog gone, normal appetite, clear thinking, motivation, they make me what I consider to be normal, but I NEVER take Xanax more than once a week. I know the Valium is a benzo but they are definitely different.
Ate a huge breakfast, gathered my bouldering gym gear together and went rock climbing for the first time in maybe 2 years?
Now this is where I made a questionable decision, while the Xanax had my head right it didn’t exactly have me feeling energized, so I took an adderall on the way to the gym, probably should’ve just grabbed an energy drink but what’s done is done. (Don’t mix drugs don’t do drugs)
It kicked in right when I was done with my warmup and I was UNSTOPPABLE. For anyone who knows bouldering I was able to complete a v4 despite not climbing for so long. Did some bicep work and once the endorphins hit combined with my favorite hobby and what was in my system I was euphoric. I didn’t go home, I went and washed and cleaned my car, ran a couple errands, went home and did all the laundry and ate. Then headed to my project (job basically) to meet some buyers and work.
Problem is, about the time I got there it felt like something unplugged and my motivation switched right off. I attribute this to the adderall comedown which is usually terrible for me but the Xanax counteracted most of it. Still I powered through and got a lot done. By the time I got home about 8:30 I felt more or less fine. 9pm right now and I plan to eat soon, head to the gym and do some cardio. Hot bath after, some cbd, and hopefully I’ll sleep.
Tomorrow id like to try sobriety but i anticipate it being a rough day as the suboxone will be nearly fully eliminated from my system. CBD has been helping. The non thc kind. Alcohol was a mistake, but I can’t say for sure I won’t drink again at some point during all this. I’m aware I’m treading dangerous ground putting all this stuff in my system but I’ve kicked any substance I ever ended up hooked on quite easily except for kratom/7oh so I’m not worried about getting hooked on anything.
The big lesson I learned today is that I need to start exercising in the morning not at night. And definitely am getting back into rock climbing id actually forgotten how much I loved it and it was my favorite thing to do.
Sorry for the long one, but thanks to everyone who comments and engages its been a huge source of strength through all this
I walked into the ER in deep withdrawal, just told them I was going through withdrawal and they didnt judge me at all, treated me with ativan, eventually suboxone and put me on a weeks worth suboxone. Even the doctors and nurses acknowledged how much of a problem Kratom/7oh is becoming, they said they're seeing loads of people check themselves in everyday. I feel like a new person. Its OK to check yourself in for help.
Well I’m blown away by how much a body and mind can change. I remember there being a time when I literally could not fathom a version of me off of Kratom. I had quit like a million times and it was always a complicated nightmare. Now not only do I never think about Kratom, I’ll walk by headshops to which I would desperately run before their closing time and not even remember that I could buy Kratom there. I genuinely do not even remember in my routine what it was like to be thinking about it 24/7, what the routine I’d had of taking it felt like, nor do I remember what the high was like enough to miss it.
Granted, life goes on and as such I find other problems and troubles. but that’s just life. I have my sex drive back, my body is healthier and free and alive in ways I did not expect: I don’t mind staying late at work if I’m enjoying a job nor does travelling anywhere worry me like it did; nor taking my time on the walk home, nor doing simple things and hobbies outside of the routine of ‘Get Home ASAP—>Get High/Abate Withdrawal.’
I am thinking and writing and maturing less recursively because I am not stuck on that loop of always getting high and ceasing everything else in me. And weirdly I am more capable, more expectant of change. I felt like I was stuck in time on Kratom and that in a way I could not mature or age and that time just flew by while everyday I felt the same and saw everything the same. People would change around me and I could only be frustrated that I was the same and yet wanted nothing different in my routine because I was high and could not imagine not being high.
It is absurd how much and how deeply Kratom affects who you are as a person, the way you deal with everything else in life and the way you see things. And how important it is to know that if you just wait sober and let day by day pass, you simply become a person who is okay with being sober. Whether you like it or not, it just happens eventually. Sometimes we all on here break down the recovery meta game so intensively because we just don’t understand why the fuck it isn’t working; why we can’t let time pass. But you just have to wait and watch. It is possible because time is possible. One day you just do not remember in your body who you were before. You have to keep trying like it’s the most important thing you’ll ever do.
Thank you all for your help!
Edit: fyi the game changers for me (only those that I’m certain by comparison made the biggest difference) were macrodosing Lipo-C with that guy’s schedule, VERY cautiously using Imod—ium when it gets digestively brutal or in an emergency like at work or school, and daily spoonfuls of Psyllium Husk Fiber which acted as a natural Imodium by the three-to-four week mark.
So… I’m back here again, after maybe my 5th relapse in a couple of years. I quit around February 2025 (2nd quit) and made it a couple of moths and was feeling great, totally out of the fire. However, the Gabapentin my doc prescribed me refilled and I ended up getting a 90 day supply. I knew it was a bad idea, but I ended up indulging in that 180 pill bottle. My addiction brain was locked right back in and in order to stop the cycle of taking the gabapentin, I purchased a small bag of OPMS caps, like 30 capsules thinking it could flip the switch off and I wouldn’t be too uncomfortable with the GABA withdrawals. I told myself I would be fine as I would often take a dose of Kratom a couple of weeks in to all of my cold turkey quits, just as a kind of weird ritual; I don’t suggest anyone do this, but I do this everytime I quit cold turkey. Anyway, long story short, I got hooked again and have been back on the powder since about May 2025. I quit again this last April, took a week off of work and jumped off the agony bridge again; however, this time I had nearly a full prescription of Gabapentin. I used that for the first week until I ran out and it was actually very easy and comfortable. I felt like shit the 2nd week a little but knew that I had a dose of powder that was waiting for me in my office desk drawer. This, I told myself, was my dose that I was going to do week 2 into my withdrawal. Again, I always do this when I cold turkey, I take a dose midway through and I’m usually fine and can continue on with no problem.
Every time I’ve ever quit, I’ve never had a problem with cravings (says the guy on his 5th relapse). My biggest focus was just to put days behind me and get through it. I never craved Kratom in this time, it was never a temptation or urge I had to fight, I was just off of it and had to normalize. This time was different though. I took that dose in my desk drawer and it was right back on. The cravings were so insane, none that I’ve ever experienced before. I’ve taken the same Kratom for pretty much the last 10 years “Earth Kratom” Green or Train Wreck, I’ve never really messed with other brands or extracts or 7oh (foreshadowing), I always did the same strain, same brand. But something was different. Maybe it’s my age, maybe it’s my addiction brain, maybe it’s something in the K nowadays, but whatever it was, I could not stop the cravings. I went about 3 weeks total and went right back to daily use and have been using again since May 3rd. And if that’s not bad enough, I’ve been experimenting with 7oh. I’m about to finish my 2nd 5 pack in two weeks! Hell yeah!
So, needless to say, I’m back here. I think a big contribution to my success before was engaging with this community, which I didn’t honestly do this last quit. I’m not going to be able to take another vacation from work, but luckily I can work from home and just take some sick time. I’m planning on jumping Memorial Day weekend and am actually looking forward to the suffering. As weird as it may sound, I’ve developed a fondness to the slow, agonizing burn of detoxing. Listening to chill music and meting the flesh from my bones. I just wish it didn’t last more than 3 weeks, but I’m really ready to be forever done with this shit. Great job to everyone for being here, it’s so much better having a community alongside for encouragement. I pray for and celebrate all of you. Please keep me in your prayers.
I’m crying writing this. It has completely taken total control of my life. My liver hurts and I was diagnosed with FLD. I kept taking it and telling everyone that I was off of it. Hiding it everyday is exhausting and It’s just making my side hurt more and more. I finally threw everything out today and my last dose was last night around 1 am and I really want to give it up. Please if you have any tips to stay clean. I fucking wasted so much of my life on this I feel like I don’t remember the past two years of my life. And now I have liver disease. Withdrawaling really hard rn lots of anxiety and sweating and keep having bouts of depersonalization.
I wanna stop, or at least cut down. I’ve been unemployed for a while now and I think kratom is only making it harder to get employed again. But the sort of catch 22 is, because I barely have enough money to make ends meet, I can’t bring myself to toss my half kilo of kratom at any point, cause I know there’s a good chance I’ll regret it and wanna buy more, and then I’ve just spent double and fucked up my budget. I remember seeing some posts like “flushed my stash after 2 weeks clean” etc. which made me realize maybe I can just like stuff it in a plastic bag and wrap it in a bunch of tape and put it in some weird spot so it’s harder to get to, and then flush it when I’ve already been clean for a bit. But is this really a thing?
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I have been taking magnesium for the muscle aches and anxiety and it works, helps with anxiety, muscle pain and that weird leg muscle feeling, like needing to stretch my leg muscles, but it doesn't help when I try to stretch them. Found out along the way that k depletes so much. I started using k in 2012, daily, still trying to kick it, takes time and don't give up!