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Garen matchup

Hey guys I’ve been trying to learn riven recently, I think she’s pretty strong rn and I’ve always wanted to learn her as a toplane champion. Let me preface by saying I am not a top player, my toplane fundamentals are not fantastic, but I understand wave management and tempo well enough to apply toplane. Normally I play in mid-emerald, but have been learning top in mid-gold.

The garen matchup is just puzzling to me. I understand that you want to E his silence and only short trade with him, but he seems to win out anyways. Even in gold, garens will realize you want to e his q and will resort to just spinning and 1 shot the wave and harass me off of a couple cs from the wave as I attempt to set up a freeze. (Then he just tanks me and the minions and crashes the wave and runs away if I try and fight) and after stridebreaker I can no longer short trade into e away because the slow allows him to catch up. Ultimately it’s not difficult to not die(50% health = one trade dead LOL) but it feels like he just out sustains any short trades I do and outscales me in the sidelane while I can 1v1 him at no point in the game if he’s even mildly human with the attack speed/crit build.

Idk if my rune/item setup is part of the problem. I tend to go conq with sorc secondary for nimbus with ignite and rush eclipse > deaths dance.

Looking for some sort of tips to make this matchup playable as many rivens say this is an easy matchup, but I find Darius to be much more manageable even if I’m down a little more cs in lane.

He just feels like the ceo of every game where he has to fuck up extemely hard for me to punish, and I’m insta dead if I fuck up once.

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u/DrawingExternal2761 — 4 days ago