u/DuoLingoAirStrike

Quite places in the outskirts

Coming from a relatively small Scandinavian town to Istanbul can get a bit overstimulating. I’m looking for some smaller places just outside (or inside) Istanbul for where I can relax a day or two. Prefrebly I place I get go to by bus, rental car is also an option.

Nice if the place has some beaches or beautiful landscape I can enjoy. Like a chill laid-back vibe.

Thank you

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u/DuoLingoAirStrike — 2 days ago

Women-only beaches close to Istanbul?

So I’m going on a family-trip and ladies want to know if there are beaches for women only. I’ve heard that’s a thing in some parts of Turkey. I know there are some in the Alanya-area. But closer to Istanbul?

Anything they should know before going there?

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u/DuoLingoAirStrike — 11 days ago

Quran and its relation to hadiths

I’ve been trying to understand the Islamic position on Quran and its actual relation with the science of hadith. I’m NOT a quranist and will never be. I absolutely understand that authentic hadiths have a value to them. However, in the hierarchy of Islamic literature, do they come below the Quran or are they equally important?

Example: A lot of Muslims say that the punishment for apostasy is death, but when I read the Quran, I don’t actually see a verse that explicitly says apostates should be executed.

Instead, the Quran seems to speak about apostasy mainly in terms of spiritual consequences and judgment in the Hereafter.

For example:

“And say: The truth is from your Lord. So whoever wills — let him believe; and whoever wills — let him disbelieve…” (18:29)

“…Whoever among you turns back from his religion and dies as a disbeliever — their deeds will become worthless in this world and the Hereafter…” (2:217)

“Indeed, those who believed, then disbelieved, then believed, then disbelieved, and then increased in disbelief — Allah will not forgive them…” (4:137)

“Whoever disbelieves in Allah after having believed — except one who is forced while his heart is secure in faith…” (16:106)

“O you who believe, whoever among you turns back from his religion — Allah will bring forth a people whom He loves and who love Him…” (5:54)

What really confuses me is that the Quran repeatedly mentions people leaving Islam, sometimes even multiple times, but I don’t see a worldly punishment prescribed in those verses.

Yet many scholars cite the hadith:

“Whoever changes his religion, kill him.”

So my question is:

How do scholars reconcile this with the Quran? And can a hadith effectively establish a ruling that does not appear in the Quran — or even seems to go against verses like “There is no compulsion in religion”?

More specifically: does any hadith have the authority to abrogate or override a Qur’anic principle?

I’m asking sincerely and trying to understand the theological and legalt reasoning from different perspectives.

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u/DuoLingoAirStrike — 16 days ago