u/EarthRuler001

[That day and what happened there was the start of the manipulation of Raiden.](https://youtu.be/2qsHbwpvHcA?is=sJIZxv5S5FWGZqKI&t=2h21m)

Rose the Patriot spy was targeting him but how did she pull him in? Was it just her artificially beautiful disguise? She pulled him in with an incorrect answer to the Japanese tourists question.

She said it was probably the Chrysler building that King Kong was climbing in the movie to bait Raiden in and he bit, saying no it was the Empire State Building. They started arguing and Rose forgot all about the tourist! Before they knew it the Japanese women had gone away.

Wow, how could she?

I guess she had other plans, but that is very poor form for a tour guide. [Bringing their tour to a conclusion like that!](https://youtu.be/5jtPytgzG1U?is=yWOKuQZQoxTs1VlM&t=21m37s)

I mean she had all those Japanese tourist around her. I guess it’s okay anyway. Those Japanese tourist would find other things to do. Afterall it’s not too shabby….

[New York I mean.](https://www.youtube.com/live/Mpl2xMvuAvE?is=CQhTdo4ckfF-6HV0&t=26m2s)

I always wanted to see what the real Rose looked like when she wasn’t wearing her disguise. I mean why was still wearing it in MGS4 even after she said she wanted Raiden to see the real her. [Oh well I guess we will figure it out sooner or later but I wonder if we’ll handle the truth!😱

The images we see in Raiden’s codec are as Raiden remembers them. It’s not him seeing them in real time. For example before Raiden sees the cyborg ninja the image is just static but after he encounters her the next codec shows the cyborg ninja.

If this is the case then how does Raiden see Campbell in the codec if as Raiden himself confesses. He has never seen the Colonel’s face before?

Rose constantly asking Raiden about what day it is tomorrow seemed inappropriate given that he was on a life or death mission and his personal life shouldn’t be apart of it. She should know distracting him would be unwise and dangerous to him.

When you think about it, you also have to ask, why would she want Raiden to remember the day she started deceiving him? It would have been a special day if she fell in love with him then, but she didn’t! She was supposedly acting! Playing a role. She actually fell in love with him some time later.

So why would she want Raiden to remember the anniversary of her deception?

Could it be a part of the exercise? She did know that Raiden’s memory was manipulated, yet she was always complaining about knowing nothing about her own boyfriend. Instead of it coming across as a woman treasuring the day she met her boyfriend it comes across as memory testing someone whose memory was manipulated. She wants to see if he remembers but not because she treasures the anniversary.

Emma did say that GW was a system that would allow the Patriots to decide what was recorded in tomorrow’s history. Ai Emma also did say that GW wasn’t complete, but was now completed thanks to Raiden. April 30, 2007 will go done in history as the day Raiden met Rose but I believe that is only a part of the story or that was a lie. That may just be a selected memory for Raiden to keep his sanity. I’m not sure if he would handle the truth of him being a pawn of the S3 plan.

If you watch the [MG2: Solid Snake intro](https://youtu.be/2sGxUkubKjg?is=LLPeN58Kd7Qkz4Jz), you will see that almost every component of Metal Gear D is labeled as VR. They are considered VR components because they are sensors that replace the human senses. Like the infrared laser sight replacing the pilot’s sight. I believe this is the same with Metal Gear D’s motor skills.

Similarly when Rex’s radome gets destroyed, Liquid has to open the cockpit to see Snake. Is it the same with Gray Fox as the Cyborg Ninja? He seems to have infrared vision when the mask is on. I’m not sure about his other senses. For example I’m not sure about his sense of touch given the “clashing of bone and sinew” comment.

So is masked Gray Fox the Cyborg Ninja basically in VR with a wide array of sensors replacing his human senses?

When Otacon converts Naomi’s South American message [she specifically states that 9 years ago she injected Snake with foxdie!](https://youtu.be/wEUtXH1cvkg?is=hgiitO5WJ4v3MF9-&t=1h59m27s)

However later on when Snake goes to rescue her in South America Naomi volunteers the question to Snake about [how long it’s been since she seen him. She says it’s been 10 years, but Snake corrects her and says 9.](https://youtu.be/wEUtXH1cvkg?is=DJ6eOaXBo9N77nBS&t=3h27s)

Its seems like a casual conversation people would have when they haven’t seen each other in a while, but why would she says 10 years when she knows it’s 9 and previously said as much in the video she sent Otacon?🤔

Is this included in the game to suggest something. If so then what?

What is OUR COUNTRY a metaphor for?

Why can she now build a new destiny for herself?

What is the significance of the BLUE rose petal falling?

There is a sub plot happening. Did you catch it? Or do you think Naomi was just rambling? 👀

They say a picture says a thousand words, but what the HELL is this psychic witch Fortune talking about? What are her words really saying? Don’t forget she talks to her dead father! MGS2 may have shown us that there is such a thing as witch. A psychic one at that.

Looking at the MGS1 pics we know what HELL Liquid wants to send Gray Fox back to. We know Gray Fox is a prisoner of death. He’s an undying shadow in a world of lights. A ghost looking for a place to die.

Could Liquid and Fortune possibly be talking about the same HELL? Not child soldier hell, but the “fires of hell” as in Hades.🤔

Don’t put it past her, she does find these immortals to be interesting? These undying men!!!😱

[In MGS1 Ocelot goes down the list of people that foxdie killed and should have killed.](https://youtu.be/R4I0l4o65JQ?is=m0eZCtO4mqgppArv&t=4h27m15s)But he doesn’t mention himself when he explains the reasons why! Even though he should have been one of the first persons that foxdie killed given that “it affects older people first”! So why didn’t it kill Ocelot?

Could it be that Ocelot was already in possession of the foxdie vaccine that Liquid was going to demand from the Pentagon? Ocelot did have friends in high places, like Solidus!

Or could it be that one of the changes that Naomi made to the program was to make it so that Ocelot wasn’t one of the targets. In MGS4 we learn that Ocelot and Naomi were collaborating, but maybe [we should have known this from in MGS1 when Naomi confessed to be collaborating with the terrorists](https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxSCJ0sNV7bDUDUB2AkCe2GjD3VLCXeDXV?si=K6fdeg1NDVyo6lSx) and Ocelot being the only one to survive without a disqualifying factor.

Lastly could it be that the Pentagon thought they targeted Ocelot but were given a false DNA to target as him? Note in the ending credits that [Ocelot tells Solidus that his identity is still intact and that no one knows who he really is.](https://youtu.be/R4I0l4o65JQ?is=VLDfp3EcSIrr-ijC&t=6h8m7s). The DARPA chief being the only one was disposed of.

Thoughts?