▲ 0 r/Spectrum
I have been receiving insanely high and frequent (every 10-30 seconds) upload packet loss while gaming
TL;DR: Persistent peak-hour upstream jitter (avg 55 ms → p99 185 ms → max 618 ms to multiple unrelated public destinations) that starts at Spectrum's first hop (172.29.152.65). Two field techs have already verified my premise wiring, drop, and modem are clean. Modem reboots don't fix it. Asking for a CMTS/node-level review, not another dispatch.
Setup
- Service area: SoCal (full address in DM)
- Plan: Internet Ultra tier (~1 Gbps / 35 Mbps, DOCSIS 3.1)
- Modem: Spectrum-rented, installed 2026-05-06 (replaced my Netgear CM3000 after a tech diagnosed a stuck-high upstream Tx power and only 2 of 8 US channels locking — that fix held, signal currently looks fine)
- Router: Spectrum-provided Sagemcom
- PC: Wired 2.5 GbE direct to router, WiFi disabled, no powerline/MoCA in the path
- CGNAT: Yes, first public hop is
172.29.x.x - Public IP at time of testing:
98.149.235.x(full IP in DM)
What's already been verified clean
- Field visit #1 (2026-05-06): Tech replaced the modem and reterminated the drop after diagnosing stuck-high upstream Tx and US channel lock issues. T3/T4 timeouts went away.
- Field visit #2 (more recent): Tech reverified signal levels at the modem and the ground block, confirmed clean. Said premise side looks good.
- Self-checks I've done:
- Modem reboot — no change
- Router reboot — no change
- Tested with router bypassed (PC straight to modem) — same behavior
- cake/SQM on PC at 36 Mbit upload, ack-filter, docsis overhead — Waveform Bufferbloat test grade A (so no local bufferbloat)
- Disabled my NordVPN to compare paths — issue is actually worse without VPN, because the VPN was bypassing Spectrum's congested route
The data
Local LAN to my router (300 consecutive ICMP, 0.2 s interval)
| Metric | Value |
|---|---|
| min | 0.4 ms |
| avg | 0.8 ms |
| p99 | 1.1 ms |
| max | 2.3 ms |
| stddev | 0.1 ms |
| loss | 0% |
Perfectly clean — proves my LAN, NIC, switch, and the cable on my side of the demarc are fine.
Game server (Google Cloud, same sample window, ICMP)
| Metric | Value |
|---|---|
| min | 34.5 ms |
| avg | 55 ms |
| p50 | 43.6 ms |
| p99 | 185 ms |
| max | 434 ms |
| stddev | 38 ms |
| loss | 0% |
Cloudflare 1.1.1.1 (same window, completely different ASN/path)
| Metric | Value |
|---|---|
| min | 11.5 ms |
| p99 | 180 ms |
| max | 547 ms |
| stddev | 65 ms |
| loss | 0% |
Identical jitter pattern to two unrelated networks at the same time — rules out any single destination, peering, or remote endpoint being the cause.
mtr trace showing exactly where the jitter is introduced
hop IP loss best avg worst StDev
1 192.168.1.1 0% 0.6 0.8 0.9 0.1 ← my router (perfect)
2 172.29.152.65 0% 5.6 27.4 163.2 35.1 ← Spectrum CGNAT — jitter STARTS here
3 76.167.25.16 0% 6.7 21.8 94.4 18.8
4 76.167.25.20 0% 9.5 32.9 209.3 41.7
5 76.167.28.150 0% 10.2 27.9 122.1 30.9
6 72.129.7.244 0% 12.4 28.9 149.9 31.0
7 66.109.6.92 0% 9.2 44.0 538.6 97.9
8 66.109.6.6 0% 35.2 67.5 462.3 78.4
9 66.109.9.45 0% 33.9 62.9 365.2 61.0
10 34.4.108.40 0% 35.2 55.0 267.2 42.9
- Hop 1 (my router): stddev 0.1 ms.
- Hop 2 (your first router): stddev 35 ms.
- That's a 350× jump in jitter at the first device past my modem, with zero packet loss and no bandwidth saturation on my side (peak utilization during the tests was ~80 KB/s — nowhere near my plan's limit).
u/East-Sign-3663 — 1 day ago