u/Ecstatic-Till-217

Image 1 — I just found out today that Germany’s birth rate once dropped to 0.7 back in the ’90s.
Image 2 — I just found out today that Germany’s birth rate once dropped to 0.7 back in the ’90s.

I just found out today that Germany’s birth rate once dropped to 0.7 back in the ’90s.

I was browsing this sub today and found out that east Germany’s fertility rate briefly dropped to around 0.7 in the 1990s. That honestly shocked me, because I’ve always thought of Germany as one of the more stable European countries with relatively strong welfare systems and decent birth rates.

From what I read, it was mostly caused by the chaos and uncertainty after reunification. Still, 0.7 is an insane number for a western country, especially back in the 90s......

It got me thinking... what would Europe look like today if it had never opened itself up to mass immigration? Would parts of Europe now have fertility rates even lower than East Asia?

What’s interesting is that Europe has taken in huge numbers of immigrants for decades, second only to the US in many ways, yet most European countries are still below replacement level and remain some of the lowest-fertility societies in the world. Even immigrant birth rates tend to fall over time after a generation or two.

Honestly, I think Europe may have unintentionally become a lesson for East Asia. Combined with growing expectations that AI and automation could eventually replace a lot of labor, Europe’s experience seems to be making anti-immigration sentiment in East Asia even stronger before large-scale immigration has really even started there.

So now I’m wondering: will East Asian countries try to deal with demographic decline in their own way without relying heavily on immigration, or will they eventually end up following the same path Europe did?

Curious what people here think.

u/Ecstatic-Till-217 — 6 days ago

What's wrong with europe........?

I simply cannot understand Europe. Europe was the first country in the world to experience extremely low birth rates, with West Germany hitting a fertility rate of 0.8 starting in the 1990s. Consequently, they opened their borders at that time and accepted a large number of immigrants from developing nations. However, what is Europe like now in 2026? Its economic growth rate is the lowest among all continents, and while North America and East Asia rode the AI ​​and semiconductor cycles, Europe merely produced fashion brands. Despite accepting immigrants, the birth rate continues to decline every year, and society is a chaotic mess of various religions and races, characterized by extreme conflict and a terrible lack of public safety. Now, even the 19th-century colonial capital that sustained the European economy has nearly run out. It is not surprising that Germany is currently the only country in Europe that has not experienced negative GDP growth. After all, Germany at least has an automotive industry.

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u/Ecstatic-Till-217 — 9 days ago
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Now, Samsung has 10 trillion won left even after buying 100 Japanese companies.......

If SK Hynix is ​​included too, Korea could buy the entire Japanese real estate market......

u/Ecstatic-Till-217 — 11 days ago
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East Asia's fertility rate for the first quarter of 2026 (January to April)

Thailand has now become the first developing country with a birth rate below 1.0.

Furthermore, considering that South Korea's birth rate was in the 1.6 range in 1989—when its Gdp per capita was same as current thailand ($7,000), this is a truly despairing figure. Even more serious is the fact that, as a developing nation, Thailand suffers from much more severe population outflow and also faces much more difficulties in attracting immigrants.

While Taiwan is at least riding the semiconductor supercycle and is projected to achieve a 5% economic growth rate this year, and South Korea is expected to reach 3%, meanwhile Thailand is projected to grow by only 1% this year. Thailand has now become the first country in the world to have lower birth rates and economic growth rates than developed nations, despite being a developing nation.

It seems like the gap between developed and developing countries is widening as time goes by.... Is it because of semiconductors and AI?

What the hell is happening right now.....!!

u/Ecstatic-Till-217 — 11 days ago