Comparing methods

I recently saw a conversation,

Two arguments.
One side:

400mg testosterone : 200mG boldenone(estradiol optimization well maintained)

VS

400mG testosterone, plus Human growth hormone, and 8iU insulin(post workout)..

Which builds overall more pure lean muscle mass?

The main argument was: insulin and Hgh builds more mass, but the anti insulin proponents criticized this approach due to its ability to build excess water retention, and further argued that insulin wouldn’t be more anabolic than their original cycle plan of 400:200 testosterone to boldenone… to which the insulin Hgh proponents confirmed that this water retention can easily be mediated by a diuretic..

So in your guys experience. What guy ends up with more muscle after the calorie deficit? And are the argument of diuretics, and good diet for the insulin proponents viable to allow these users to build mass without taking a toll on their looks?

And in Addition, may I add my own thoughts.. why argue about which is better when you can quite literally use both?

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u/Electrical_Ad_539 — 6 days ago

Homocysteine

Elevated homocysteine something to be worried about?

All my blood/endotheliel tissue related labs are great, cholesterols all good including LDL, and Apo(B).. blood pressure controlled.. hematocrit closer to higher end but still managed at the current moment.

Is this homocysteine level of 15.2 something to be worried about? Just started my cycle this week.

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u/Electrical_Ad_539 — 9 days ago

Pre cycle labs

Pre cycle labs…

Everything looks good. Only thing I’m worried about is high homocysteine and higher normal end hematocrit…

Thoughts?
Will start on 300mG testosterone cypionate.

u/Electrical_Ad_539 — 10 days ago

First cycle

First cycle gentlemen.

Plans:

300mG Testosterone C, weekly

Kind of a bigger starting dose according to most people but I know what to watch out for… also working with my sports medicine doctor for cardiology. Plan to gain a good 25-30 bulked up. Maybe end up at 155-160 lean.
Current stats are 145lbs 5’10”

Monitoring for ancillaries the next few days. Will take Tadalafil 5mg already though and Dutasteride as I’ve already began hair loss before cycle

u/Electrical_Ad_539 — 11 days ago

Telling doctor about AAS use

Would you guys recommend telling my sports cardiologist about AAS use?

I figure since they are sports cardiologists, at a big Hospital… wouldn’t they expect it?

Let me know your guys’ experience..

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u/Electrical_Ad_539 — 12 days ago

Primobolan gain

Is the cost of primobolan on top of a 300mg testosterone dose, going to be worth it? Considering im not too open yet with experimenting with Deca or boldenone(due to its high e2 suppression)…

Here are my goals and reasons why I’m taking Primobolan. (Methenolone Enanthate).

Goals:
Hitting 15lbs if not more of pure muscle over the next 5 months. Willing to cycle longer to get there. 40-50% of this is muscle memory tissue that I previously had a year or two back…

My surplus will consist of 500 calories on top of maintainance.. reason why I don’t go higher on the testosterone dose is to avoid aromatization, hair loss and acne, water retention, etc etc…

This is picky, but I’m trying to see how far I can push this while not sacrificing gains.. I guess you might be able to have your cake and eat it too

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u/Electrical_Ad_539 — 14 days ago

Hgh supertropin

atech HGH restock soon? Trying to prepare for a Hgh cycle in the next few months. Would appreciate if steroidify could help me out with this

Thx 👍🏻

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u/Electrical_Ad_539 — 14 days ago

Test + eq

I keep hearing that 1:1 ratios of testosterone and boldenone can cause significant drops in estradiol do to equipoises ability to non aromatize. Is this as common as people make it seem? If so a 3:1 or 2:1 ratio would generally be favored.

Considering I’m running test at 300mG, that would be an ideal dose of 100-150mG equipoise weekly.. is that dose even worth it..? This is considering that I am not willing to up my testosterone dose from here

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u/Electrical_Ad_539 — 14 days ago

Ancillary

Any experiences using telyrx or out telehealth/online based prescribers for ancillaries like telmisartan or ezetimibe?

Kind of a young guy, would disclose my steroid use and blood markers to them to increase my chances of getting prescribed..Insurance isn’t involved

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u/Electrical_Ad_539 — 20 days ago

Additives for the first ever cycle

Starting cycle with 200mG testC and potentially bumping up to 300mG depending on my first set of labs.. if I do this, thoughts on adding more compounds to the cycle? Already planning on doing Anavar the last 6 weeks of the cycle, but would adding something early on help a lot or be unwise considering my current experience level with anabolics… or am I better off just maxxing out my dose of test(not looking to experience the diminishing returns associated with high dose testosterone).

Let me know your thoughts.

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u/Electrical_Ad_539 — 22 days ago

Stims and cycles

Your experiences with using stims like adderall on your cycles?

Amphetamine seems to increase my systolic pressure pretty noticeably. Days on, I can see a resting BP of 120-125… and days without it it can go as low as 110. It’s clear that even a moderate dose such as 15mG can have an effect on my BP… where I’ve decided I’m going to avoid Adderall completely while on cycle..

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u/Electrical_Ad_539 — 23 days ago

Touchdown

Just received my products,

Coming back from a couple years off the gym and did some highly consistent research. So to any scientists on here who think they know better and want to drop a sarcastic comment, I’d probably invite you to consider how much research I’ve put into this… and for those who want to actually provide meaningful advice, I’m completely open to it and thank you for advising those of us that are starting out.

Order consists of:

5 vials - Test C 250
1 pack - anastrozole
1 pack - Teromifene
1 pack - anaver(sent to me for free.. thanks again basic!)

deleted my earlier post, I’d like to apologize to basicstero for obvious reasons to whoever saw my earlier post..
reason I made my first order with this store and manufacturer is due to their unbelievably positive reputation across several other forums, and consistent test results..

Hoping for 20lbs of mass over the next 5 months, which will mostly be muscle memory. Very enthusiastic. Take care everyone,

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u/Electrical_Ad_539 — 24 days ago

Touchdown

Just received my first order

Will be doing my first ever cycle to get back into the gym after 3years off..
Hoping to gain 20lbs of mass in the next 5months, most of which will be muscle memory..

Ordered 5 vials of Test C /250
1 pack of anastrozole
1 pack of Teromifene

Received 1 pack of oxandrolone for free which was incredibly surprising, thanks basic stero team!

btw: rlly impressed with how the shop hid my gear, in different packaging

u/Electrical_Ad_539 — 25 days ago

Customs clearance after arriving in home country

Hey guys

How long does it take for customs to clear usps packages after landing in your home country. Been 3 days no action kinda worried

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u/Electrical_Ad_539 — 29 days ago

Upping dose

Title basically.

Do you guys recommend upping the dose on a first ever cycle if my bloods are good, worried about my heart 😬

Been doing research on all the shit that could happen and it has be frightened. But that 265bench for reps sounds pretty nice cause you know that definitely is gonna get me laid more right?

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u/Electrical_Ad_539 — 1 month ago

Telehealth for cardiology

What’s up guys

Anyone have experience for telehealth cardiology, and where to get quality out of pocket treatment/testing for the heart during PED cycles?

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u/Electrical_Ad_539 — 1 month ago

AAS usage

Hello users of this forum,
I appreciate you taking the time to read my message.

Ill cut to the chase. I will be using 200mG weekly of Testosterone Cypionate, for recreational purposes.. I want to get some comprehensive testing done to see the vulnerability of my heart. I am seeing a cardiologist tomorrow and will not be telling him about the hormone usage due to insurance reasons, however will be requesting certain tests recommended by you guys..

Apart from the standard 12 lead resting electrocardiogram, echocardiogram, daily blood pressure that should exceed no more than 130, baseline labs and intra cycle CBC, hsCRP panels, and beyond observational symptoms.. what other heart related tests should I get before my cycle?

Here’s my history:
I am 22.. No high blood pressure in the past even on caffeine and prescribed stimulant use. Some palpitations, and no true genetic family history of sudden death induced by undetected heart conditions.. an aunt has a murmur which caused a stroke, and a grandfather died a few weeks after a cardiac event due to a history of excessive alcohol consumption. Mother also has high blood pressure.

Basically want to get tests to see if I have structural, electrical, and other predispositions to developing conditions which can be both exacerbated or revealed by steroid usage.
I am also not open to changing my mind about the usage of these drugs unless tests prove I am otherwise vulnerable..

Some help will be much appreciated.

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u/Electrical_Ad_539 — 2 months ago

Avoiding deoxycholate dispersion damaging vessels and nerves

Tips and tricks on how to avoid deoxycholate injections in the cheek from spreading and damaging nerve protective barriers.?

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u/Electrical_Ad_539 — 2 months ago