u/Emer_Dareloth

Hey!

Currently still in the Arden-Sul rabbit hole.

I think one part of Arden-Sul that's always captivated me is that it's an instance of a being that we know is worshipped *inside* of a Daedric Realm.

Do we have any other instances of this that we are aware of in other realms? None come to mind, so I have come here to ask the enlightened scholars.

Thanks!

I'm sure this question has been asked before, but I'm gonna ask it again.

I recently just finished ESO's Greymoor Chapter for the first time this week, and I was caught off guard when Count Verandis Ravenwatch said this about Grey Haven:

"Rada found it. A piece of land sundered from the Reach, caught between Mundus and Oblivion. It is both and neither. Outside the grasp of Bal, or any Prince for that matter.

He plans to gift the Gray Host with this sanctuary."

And then later we learn that Grey Haven in IN the void from the quest description:

"The End of Eternity: Discover how to travel through the Void."

And I thought this was really ambiguous. I always assumed the Void was the space outside of the Aurbis. Like, there's Mundus < Oblivion < Aetherius < Void

But, this seems to either be totally wrong or from an outdated source of lore.

Just want to make sure if I'm wrong or if ESO made something up cause it sounded cool. Cause they've been known to do that in the past.

Thanks!

I think I understand it, but it's also really confusing me.

Hello all!

Arden Sul is a fascinating topic to me, but not a lot of people talk about him. In the book The Prophet Arden-Sul we see that the Manics and the Demented each believe in vary different accounts of what this man did in his life, but for some reason the number 213 remains consistent between both accounts.

I've gotten pretty well versed on numerology as of late, but I'm struggling to find a connection here that would be important.

Here's what I've got:

1. The Enatiomorph: Arden-Sul, having two distinct myths, could be seen as a victor to his Demented or Manic sides, potentially depending on which side of New Sheoth holds the Flame of Agnon.
2. Dragonbreak: Given the total disparity between the stories, perhaps a Dragonbreak was involved somehow (topic for later questioning: can Dragonbreaks occur in Oblivion?)
3. The Invisible Gate: Perhaps there was some sort of trinity involved in the initial creation of Sheogorath? The Zealots believe Arden-Sul to be the mortal aspect of Sheogorath while the Heretics say he perverts his teachings.

And then perhaps there's something as well with Sermons 21 and 13, but I'm not sure.

Basically... do you all think that 213 is important, or just some random number that the devs threw in this book?

Thanks