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▲ 10 r/defi

Thorchain hacked.

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We have identified unauthorized outbound transactions from one of the Asgard vaults. As a result, funds were lost from that vault. This investigation is still in its very early stages, and the information below is preliminary and subject to change as we continue analysis. We ask the community to give the node operators and development teams time to complete a thorough investigation before drawing conclusions. What we currently know:

  • One of the six Asgard vaults appears to have been compromised.
  • Current estimates place the loss at approximately $7.4m USD.
  • The network automatically detected the abnormal behavior and halted signing activity, which alerted the broader community and prevented further outbound activity.
  • Node operators securing the vault maintain bonded RUNE which is subject to slashing in the event of unauthorized outbound transactions.
  • Churn activity has been paused while the investigation is ongoing and remediation steps are evaluated.
  • As a result, onboarding of additional chains and any operations requiring churns will be delayed until the network is stabilized.

At this stage, the root cause has not yet been determined. Current areas under investigation include:

  • A potential vulnerability in the GG20 implementation layer
  • Infrastructure or operational compromise affecting a sufficient number of nodes
  • Other attack vectors that could have enabled unauthorized signing activity

At this time, we do not have evidence supporting any specific conclusion, and we want to avoid premature assumptions until the investigation is complete. We are asking all node operators to immediately review their infrastructure, hosts, key management systems, and operational security for any signs of compromise or abnormal behavior, and to report anything suspicious to the dev team. Additionally, node operators participating in the affected vault are requested to securely provide Bifrost logs to the dev team for analysis using make relay. We will continue to provide updates as we learn more.
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u/Emotional_Spread_164 — 7 days ago
▲ 16 r/BitcoinSwaps+1 crossposts

Why is BTC still so isolated from DeFi compared to ETH?

Bitcoin is worth ~$1.6T now, but somehow almost all of it still just sits there doing nothing.

Binance had a stat earlier this year saying only ~0.8% of BTC is actually being used in DeFi, which honestly feels crazy considering BTC is still the most liquid asset in crypto.

And I think the issue is never really “people don’t want BTC in DeFi.”

It’s more that moving BTC around on-chain has historically been either:

- centralized and frictionless
or
- decentralized and terrifying

For a long time the easiest path was basically:

BTC -> CEX -> wrapped asset → DeFi

Which worked, but also kind of defeated the whole point of crypto in the first place because exchanges became the trust layer.

Then the opposite side emerged with cross-chain bridges, trying to decentralize Bitcoin interoperability. But a lot of those early systems got absolutely wrecked. Every cycle, there was another bridge exploit or multisig compromise, losing hundreds of millions.

What’s interesting is that after multiple cycles, the designs that survived seem to converge toward a similar model: intents + solver-based execution.

Instead of locking assets in giant honeypot bridges, users basically express *what outcome they want*, and external solvers compete to fulfill it in the fastest/cheapest way possible.

Feels like this architecture quietly became the dominant direction for interoperability:

CoW Swap, near intents, and garden finance pioneered this architecture, and other bridge (LayerZero, Stargate, Across, Wormhole, etc) protocols started moving toward intent-style execution

The common pattern is:

users stop caring *how* the swap happens, and solvers handle the complexity/liquidity routing behind the scenes.

What I’m trying to figure out is whether this eventually replaces CEX flows entirely, or if centralized exchanges still win long term simply because they’re faster, simpler, and already own distribution.

Because right now it feels like:

* CEXs still dominate BTC liquidity
* but intents feel like the first on-chain UX that can realistically compete with them

Curious what people here think?

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u/Emotional_Spread_164 — 8 days ago
▲ 7 r/defi

So I moved 0.15 BTC ($11.5k) earlier this week to USDT on ETH cause I needed liquidity for a perp position, and the experience kinda threw me off, in a good way, but also made me question what we even call bridging now.

Before, it was always: deposit -> wait -> mint wrapped BTC on some EVM/L2 -> withdraw. All manually, but with some new bridges, it's automated, but not fully.

This time it felt completely different. No minting step. No wrapped asset sitting somewhere. It was more like:

- set an intent (basically “I want to swap BTC for USDT on EVM”)
- an intent solver is matched to me, basic p2p
- both parties lock their funds into a contract
- either it executes fully or refunds. No one can tamper with the HTLC contract, not even the protocol.

It took less than 30 sec total, which was way quicker than BTC confirmations anyway, but the key difference was that there was no in-between state. No pending Tx anxiety, no checking a dashboard every 2 mins.

If someone genuinely enables me to avoid that anxiety and genuinely keeps my funds safe, I am more than happy to pay even a little extra.

Used Garden Finance for this (first time), and honestly, it felt closer to using a CEX than a traditional bridge, but with way more transparency. At no point did it feel like I gave up custody of my BTC, which is new compared to most bridges I’ve used before.

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u/Emotional_Spread_164 — 23 days ago