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My 2018 race by race driver rankings.
My 2018 race by race Rankings.
**2018 Rankings**
Australia-Best driver-Lewis
Best Car-Equal
Bahrain-Best Driver-Seb
Best Car-Ferrari
China-Best Driver-Ricciardo
Best car-Red bull? I want to hear your opinions because Ferrari qualified well, but Mercedes started the race strong then randomly dropped off whilst Red bull started butchering everyone.
Azerbaijan-Best Driver-Hamilton
Best Car-Ferrari
Spain-Best-Driver-Hamilton
Best Car-Mercedes
Monaco-Best Driver-Ricciardo
Best Car-Ferrari
Canada-Best Driver-Vettel
Best Car-Ferrari≠Mercedes
France-Best Driver-Hamilton (Vettel crashed into Bottas)
Best Car-Mercedes
Austria-Best Driver-Verstappen
Best Car-Mercedes\* (Hamilton/Bottas DNF fuel pressure and hydraulics)
Britain-Best Driver-Hamilton
Best Car-Ferrari
Germany-Best Driver-Hamilton
Best car-Mercedes
Hungary-Best Driver-Hamilton
Best car-Mercedes
Spa-Best driver-Vettel
Best car-Ferrari
Italy-Best driver-Hamilton
Best car-Ferrari
Singapore-Best driver-Hamilton
Best car-Ferrari
Russia-Best driver-Bottas
Best car-Mercedes
Japan-Best driver-Hamilton
Best car-Mercedes
US-Best driver-Raikkonen
Best car-Ferrari
Mexico-Best driver -Verstappen
Best car-Red Bull
Brazil-Best driver-Verstappen
Best car-Red Bull (race pace 100%) qualifying merc quite interesting
Abu Dhabi-Best driver-Hamilton
Best car-Mercedes
Conclusion?
Ferrari had the quicker car in 2018 10-9 in my opinion with Hamilton just far better and consistent than both Ferrari drivers. Kimi was just there way past his best obviously and seb was honestly mid compared to 2017 as he got outqualified by Kimi more often and his second half was very sloppy with many collisions with Riccardo so yeah. 2019 and 2021 rankings next
Who was better in 2013 Hamilton or Rosberg?
This has been on my mind for a bit and I want your guys’ opinions. I rewatched 2013 on f1 tv about a month ago and from my recollection Nico was actually somewhat there with Lewis as he had more wins (2-1) but Lewis outscored him and out-qualified him (11-8) Im also pretty sure that Nico had more reliability issues but yeah I cba to rewatch the season and I wanna see what you guys gotta say thanks 🤙🏿
The Red Barons brother has eaten too much sausage recently
I’m getting sick of these stupid Narratives Targeted towards Hamilton
From attention seeking clowns like Ralf and Montoya like ralf we get your 🏳️🌈 but take Lewis d*** out of your mouth.
All of these hypotheticals and statements are so pointless. If Leclerc is really a top 3 driver on the grid like Most say, (myself included) then he’s getting the most out of the car right? So he qualifying outside the top 3 in p5 at Miami just like Lewis has been right? (P6) so how does Hamilton being a tenth off in qualifying one position behind Charles whilst not bottling a p4 finish like Leclerc did and out qualifying him at China means he suddenly isn’t deserving of a seat?? And thats not even taking into consideration all the power deployment related issues Lewis has been dealing with recently. I’m not saying that he’s doing outright better than Leclerc but do you genuinely think that someone like Bearman would be beating Leclerc right now? That’s up for debate lmao but until something even remotely similar to 2025 happens in terms of Lewis’ results I don’t want to see bullshit statements like this. The car is literally the third fastest what the fuck do some of you people expect yes he’s a 7 time champion but the car matters in the sport, and some of you idiots still can’t seem to grasp that calling anything and everything a tractor but when Lewis is driving one and he doesn’t do well it’s just him give me a break 🤡’s
Methodology- Figured I’d explain it as some people found it a bit confusing in my previous post. It’s essentially an a points tally-eye test system. I rewatched the races and noted down who the best/most impressive driver/drivers were in the race for my race by race.
You might want a Pen and some Paper here
Sorry ☠️😭
This is how the points system works
2 Points-Maximum(Clear Best Driver)
1.5 Points (Still objectively the best driver but it isn’t as clear cut and or it was just closer relative to other drivers listed)
1 Point (multiple drivers who I deemed equally did good in the race with no substantial argument to split them can get one point.
0.5 Points(A driver can get 0.5 points for an honourable mention or suffering a retirement which cost the driver certain points finishes wins and podiums. e.g I gave Vettel 0.5 points at Australia because he was leading the race firmly but retired due to a brake Faliure on Lap 25.
If you understand skip this bit below if not read it.
So to reiterate,2 points is the maximum for a driver in a race, it pretty much implies that the driver who got 2 points were the clear best driver of that race so only driver per race could get 2 points. Getting 1.5 is similar in the sense that the driver is still the best but it isn’t as clear cut in a way as something out of their control may have affected their result which on paper isn’t as good as their adversaries
An example of this is Bahrain, I have Vettel 1.5 points as had a dominant pole compared to his teammate Webber in Sixth.He had a firm lead of the race until spark plug issues cost him so I had him 1.5 points to Alonsos 0.75 suggesting that he was clearly the best but Alonso was close enough to capitalise on his issues if tha makes sense.In my previous post I would’ve just done 1-0 to Vettel but I wanted to be less vague if this still doesn’t make sense for a race or in general lmk and please correct me if I’ve made any errors thanks
And btw the letters are abbreviations e.g 2(SV)+2 so it means best driver (2 points) is Sebastian Vettel. If you still don’t get it I apologise just ask me to clear things up and I’ll try.
2010 rankings
Bahrain-Best drivers Vettel/Alonso Vettel Spark Plug issues which cost him the win)+1.5(SV) +0.75(FA)
Australia -Best drivers-button,kubica and Lewis. Hamilton had fantastic overtakes and was p3 from p11 until McLaren brought him in for a questionable pitstop, which certainly squandered his podium chances he was also later hit by Webber. Buttons signature intuition led to him call for a perfectly timed pitstop for slicks before anyone else and Kubica got p2 in a Renault a solid drive. HM-(Vettel Brake Failure whilst leading early on)
|2(SV)+0.5| |1(JB)+1 |1(LH)+1| |(RK) +1| 0.75(FA)+0
Malaysia-Best drivers-Hamilton/Vettel/Alonso
|3(SV)+1 |1 (JB)+0|2(LH)+1 |1.75(FA)+1| 1 RK +0 |
(Alonso Engine Faliure) Alonso was impressive with his damage limitation in relation to gearbox and clutch issues that he was experiencing almost immediately Until the engine blew up. He would’ve finished in p9 from p19 Hamilton had a p20-p6 drive with the best overtaking of the weekend id say. Vettel also had a solid drive with great initial overtakes on Rosberg and Webber+the win
China-Best driver-Button.HM, Hamilton/Rosberg
Button and Rosberg gambled and decided to stayed out on slicks whilst everyone else decided to pit for inters and it paid off, they both garnered a lengthy advantage but even when the safety car got called out after debris in the pits they still pulled out ahead. Button eventually passed Nico but regardless both showed great performances and Witt.Hamilton had some phenomenal overtakes throughout the race on Nico Schumacher ect and managed to jump Nico later on due to a slow stop by Merc and finished P2
(Alonso also jump started)
3(SV)+0|3(JB)+2 |3(LH)+1|1.75(FA)+0|1(NR)+1 |1(RK)+0|
Spain- Best driver-Webber-HM:Vettel,Hamilton,Alonso
Lewis had a suspension Failure in P2 on penultimate lap-DNF.Vettel had brake problems and had to slow down and nurse them.it handed the podium to Alonso who drove well nonetheless. Webber finished 24 seconds ahead of P2 and led every lap
3.75(SV)+0.75|3(JB)+0 |4(LH)+1|2.25(FA)+0.5|1(NR)+1|2(MW)+2
Monaco-Best drivers Alonso/Webber. (HM:Kubica) Alonso also crashed fp3 no quali p22-p6 drive, Webber had a solid win and outpaced Vettel all weekend Kubica qualified p2 in the Renault and finished in 3rd.
3.75(SV)+0 |3(JB)+0| |4(LH)+0|3.75(FA)+1.5|1(NR)+0|3(MW)+1|
|1.75(RK)+0.75|
Turkey- Best driver-Hamilton. HM-(Button)
3.75(SV)+0 |3.5(JB)+0.5| |6(LH)+2|3.75(FA)+0|1(NR)+0|3(MW)+0| |1.75(RK)+0|
Canada-Best driver-Hamilton. HM:Button/Alonso/Buemi
3.75(SV)+0 |4.5(JB)+1| |8(LH)+2|4.75(FA)+1|1(NR)+0|3(MW)+0|
|0.5(SB)+0.5| 1.75(RK)+0|
Valencia- Best driver-Vettel
6(SV)+2 |4.5(JB)+0| |8(LH)+0|4.75(FA)+0|1(NR)+0|3(MW)+0| 0.5(SB)+0.25 |1.75(RK)+0|
Great Britain-Best drivers
Webber,Hamilton,Rosberg,Button
6(SV)+0 |5.5(JB)+1| |9(LH)+1|4.75(FA)+0|1(NR)+1|4(MW)+1| 0.5(SB)+0|
1.75(RK)+0|
Germany- Best driver Alonso
(Hamilton crashed fp1 affected his whole race and he was leading the championship by Germany I think so a little costly as I think he would’ve done better otherwise but Lewis still extended the gap by 14 points ahead of Jenson finishing p4 from p6)
6(SV)+0 |5.5(JB)+0| |9(LH)+0|6.75(FA)+2|1(NR)+0| |4(MW)+0| 0.5(SB)+0 |1.75(RK)+0|
Hungary-Best driver Alonso(Hamilton Driveshaft Failure-DNF mark took lead of championship 4 points ahead of Lewis. He would’ve finished 4/5th
6(SV)+0 |5.5(JB)+0| |9(LH)+0|8.75(FA)+2|1(NR)+0| |4(MW)+0|
0.5(SB)+0 |1.75(RK)+0|
Belgium-Best driver-Hamilton. (HM Kubica/Sutil)
(Barrichello hit Alonso)/Webber poor start No.1/Vettel crashes into button DNF for both/Alonso binned it-DNF
6(SV)+0 |5.5(JB)+0| |11(LH)+2|8.75(FA)+0|1(NR)+0| |4(MW)+0|
0.5(SB)+0 |2.75(RK)+1| 0.5(AS)+0.5
Monza -Best Driver-Alonso (Webber Poor Start No.2) Hamilton crashes into Massa DNF (Vettel had engine problems too lost possible p3)
6(SV)+0 |5.5(JB)+0| |11(LH)+0|10.75(FA)+2|1(NR)+0| |4(MW)+0|
0.5(SB)+0 |2.75(RK)+0| 0.5(AS)+0
Singapore-Best Driver-Alonso HM’s-Kubica-Vettel
(Webber-Hamiltion clash DNF for Lewis race incident could’ve been avoided possibly)
7(SV)+1 |5.5(JB)+0| |11(LH)+0|12.75(FA)+2|1(NR)+0| |4(MW)+0|
0.5(SB)+0 |3.25(RK)+0.5| 0.5(AS)+0
Japan-Best drivers in (no particular order need to rewatch Japan as of writing this so it’s off the top of my head/Vettel/Kobayashi/Button/Kubica for qualifying p3 (HM)/Hamilton nursed car to p5 lost gears mid race
(Hamilton crashes free practice+gearbox penalty for abnormal oil pressure
8(SV)+1 |5.5(JB)+0| |11.5(LH)+0.5| 12.75(FA)+2|1(NR)+0| |4(MW)+0|
0.5(SB)+0 |3.75(RK)+0.5| 0.5(AS)+0|
|0.5 (KK)+0.5|
Korea-Best driver-Vettel,HM-Alonso (Vettel engine Failure whilst leading win *was* in the bag)
9(SV)+1 |5.5(JB)+0| |11.5(LH)+0.5|13.5(FA)+0.75|1(NR)+0| |4(MW)+0|
0.5(SB)+0 |3.75(RK)+0.5| 0.5(AS)+0|
|0.5 (KK)+0.5|
Brazil-Best driver-Vettel,HM Alonso
10(SV)+1 |5.5(JB)+0| |11.5(LH)+0.5|14(FA)+0.5 |1(NR)+0| |4(MW)+0|
0.5(SB)+0 |3.75(RK)+0.5| 0.5(AS)+0|
|0.5 (KK)+0.5|
Abu Dhabi-Best driver-Vettel HM Hamilton,Alonso
12(SV)+2 |5.5(JB)+0| |12(LH)+0.5|14.5(FA)+0.5 |1(NR)+0| |4(MW)+0|
0.5(SB)+0 |3.75(RK)+0.5| 0.5(AS)+0|
|0.5 (KK)+0.5|
CONCLUSION
“Points Winner”
*Fernando Alonso*
However….
WAS FERNANDO ALONSO THE BEST DRIVER THIS SEASON? Let’s consider all the variables first
Outright/Joint-Best driver nominations: VETTEL (6) ALONSO (7) HAMILTON (6)
Honourable mentions: (I wrote these if a driver was great in the race and or weekend but just wasn’t as good as the “best driver” in my opinion. OR bad luck such as reliability which prevented an otherwise better scoring position relative to the other nominated drivers if that makes sense…. (e.g I still gave more points to Vettel at Korea and Bahrain than Alonso because in both races he was ahead of Alonso until reliability issues allowed Alonso to take position and also did well against his teammate Webber who crashed at Korea and finished 8th at Bahrain. Im also not saying that Alonso didn’t do well against Massa either but you should get the point.)
VETTEL (4) HAMILTON (4) ALONSO (5)
Notable Reliability issues: VETTEL (5) two DNF’s Brake Faliure at Australia and an Engine Failure at Korea. In both instances he was in the lead. Other than this Vettel had the spark plug Faliure at Bahrain which allowed Alonso Massa and Hamilton to pass him late in the race. Brake problems at Spain which he had to nurse he was 4th as Lewis overtook him but then Lewis’ DNFed later on. Brake problems at Monza, nursed them and capitalised with the last lap pit gamble. So Vettel had a LOT of issues and this is why mark not winning the title continues to blow my mind.
HAMILTON (2) Lewis retired at Spain on the penultimate lap in P2 due to a suspension Failure. He also retired at Hungary whilst running in 4th due to a Gearbox issue.
ALONSO (1) At Malaysia Alonso had to deal with a Clutch and a major Gearbox malfunction. He then retired in P9 on the penultimate lap due to an engine Faliure
Notable mistakes made: VETTEL (3)
At the Turkish GP Sebastian was alongside Webber overtaking him then veered right for some reason and cut Webber off crashing himself out of the race and also affecting Webber’s race.
At the Belgian Gp he tried to Overtake Button messed it up and crashed into the side of Jenson car taking them both out of the race.
And at Hungary he fell more than 10 lengths behind the safety car and got a drive through penalty that dropped him down to third and that def could’ve been a win.
HAMILTON (2.5/3?)
At the German GP Hamilton crashed during Fp1 which meant he couldn’t test the new blown diffuser and just had less track time.
At the Italian GP he tried to make an impossible lunge down the inside of Massa at Turn 4 clipping Massas rear left with his right front and this broke his suspension and led to him DNFing a shortly after in the gravel.
At the Singapore GP him and Webber were fighting hard then collided I haven’t watched the clip since I originally wrote the first draft for this when I watched the season on f1 tv first but I do remember thinking that Lewis could’ve done more to avoid it as imo he was too aggressive turning in but idk.
Who had the fastest car?
Well they were decently close over a race distance I’d say but regardless..
The Red Bull was the fastest with 15/19 Pole Positions
https://www.racefans.net/2010/12/13/2010-in-stats-part-three-car-performance/
McLaren was second fastest
Ferrari was third fastest overall
Just to note looking at the graph combined with my personal opinion I think the Ferrari was faster than the McLaren in the final 7 rounds from Hungary I still think it fluctuated ever so slightly but Korea was rain affected anyway and I’m pretty sure this was based on qualifying pace. Overall
McLaren were quicker over one lap in the first 11 races to Ferraris 7 in the last 8 (Korea I think was the difference but rain affected so idk)
Taking this all into consideration…
Who was the best driver??
Well considering all the nuances it’s very close
Sebastian Vettel was formidable post Japan wasn’t making mistakes like Webber was and was just outpacing and outdriving him would’ve won and garnered far more points and podiums had it not been for reliability issues (Vettel wins the title with luck adjusted for everyone there’s an Autosport article I’ll find it later) so yeah in general he did make mistakes but so did everyone else tbh he had poor reliability and still kept it together under pressure
Lewis Hamilton was superb in the first half id say the best and he didn’t have the fastest car compared to his rivals. Embraced beat a prime button Fresh off a championship Out-qualified and in general outperformed him over the season. Lewis did make some mistakes like everyone else did Monza was super costly I’d say Singapore was possibly avoidable but overall a solid season considering the circumstances the pace of the car compared to the red bull and late season Ferrari and his bad luck.
Fernando Alonso was fantastic immensely consistent maximising where he could and demonstrated elite adaptability in races such as Malaysia with his issues an amazing Last-P6 drive at Monaco amazing drives at Monza Singapore and Hungary where he was clearly a step ahead of everyone else, and outperformed Massa at his first season at Ferrari. Considering that the car was 3rd fastest over one lap for half the season he was very impressive. He was quite sloppy at times in the first half and enjoyed the best reliability out of the top 4 that year so there’s that to consider
But this is up for you guys to decide I thought they were all as good as each other if you think about it Vettel had the most bad luck Lewis had the second fastest car slightly less bad luck Alonso had the 3rd fastest but little to no bad luck they all made mistakes different teammate dynamics ect but some dude said in another post “But to assume they all performed at an equally good level is a massive and incorrect oversimplification” is it? Well Idk anyway thanks again if you’ve read this through I will be updating any errors lmk if their are any