u/Excellent-Problem165

Made a most here a while ago about black and white thinking, which sparked these thoughts that I may not be an estp.

I don’t want to go into stereotypes too much because I know someone can look like a certain type and end up being another one. We also have to account for social obligations, childhood trauma(if there is any), and many other factors.

Sometimes I feel like an FI dom, but then I go to read the description, I go look for others who describe themselves as an Fi dom, specifically FI-SE and I get lost. I’m not the healthiest, I struggle with depression and I have a disorder called misophonia which is hatred of (certain)sounds.

It’s hard to say I’m an SE dom when I naturally gravitate in enclosed spaces due to many things. I watched singles Inferno a few minutes ago and there was this girl who I felt was so similar to me and I couldn’t grasp why. I also realized I don’t know myself AT ALL, which is why it’s been so hard to type myself.

TLDR- idk man it’s not that long read it (plz)

Onto the functions—-

Starting with SE: I believed myself to be very action - oriented, and like I wanted to taste the world. I naturally crave freedom and become irritated if I feel it’s taken from me, or unavailable which is often. I’m not outside a lot, but when I am I like to move my body or just stare at some trees. I feel like I get energized whenever I go outside or whenever I do any sort of physical activity.

Ti: I think I’ve lost trust in this function due to some childhood stuff, as well as a messy break up I went through a few months ago. I tend to not understand something unless it’s run through me, although I’m not very conscious of the process. I like to skip the fundamentals of certain things because I want to figure out how it works, then perhaps cross reference it if it doesn’t work. Guitar for example, I didn’t want to bother starting with the basics, I just wanted to jump right in and begin to play. I don’t like uncertainty, I need something to make sense before I proceed. I was awfully blunt, and direct but it’s toned down tremendously.

FE: This one had me stumped for a while. Whenever I see descriptions of this function in this particular placement I draw a blank. All I see is “manipulative” and who exactly would just say “yeah” For me this function shows up with me scanning someone’s body language, and doing whatever I can to put it back into a positive trajectory or keep it there. HOWEVER I don’t do it with everyone, I don’t see a reason to. I find myself paying more attention to people I like/people who provide something. Like chit chat at work, or someone I find charming. This doesn’t mean I’m just an ass who intentionally likes to step over people, I just don’t see a reason to go above and beyond for everyone.

Ni: I HAVE NO CLUE. I read descriptions on NI and while I understand it, I can’t seem to apply it to myself. I can be very impulsive, and sometimes I’ll repeat the exact same things and it’s like “wait I did this before” like an odd sense of Déjà vu that I don’t actually care to make a mental note of, so I’ll most likely do it again.

ADD ON: (forgive me I know this is long)

I’m not very extroverted, and I can be a little moody. I tend to take certain things personally. Mainly things that have to do with my character, but ONLY if it’s bad. I had this mental image of myself that was probably made to protect myself from my flaws. Growing up I was treated as if flaws were not flaws but death sentences lol. Like I was some irredeemable person, so in my defense that’s where that comes from. I’m not sure if the personal attack thing comes naturally to FI doms or anyone else. I also tend to be caught up in “good or bad” I see myself as an insensitive jerk who seems to always step on someone’s toes UNINTENTIONALLY, but at the same time I’m a little too hyper vigilant and people pleasy. I think I’m very simple but everyone around me seems to say otherwise.

CONCLUSION:

Not sure if I’m an ESTP but only when it comes to the stereotypes and healthy explanations of their functions, maybe I’m just an isfp who’s larping idk man. Thanks for reading all this if you did, I know you guys attention span is shot.

So I’ve been in therapy for maybe 3 months? It’s through my work, and I was only interested in therapy because of my ex, and decided to just keep attending.

she’s very neutral which I’ve come to realize I need. We recently talked about personality types, and styles of learning and all I could think was “I have no fucking idea”

We went through some of my childhood and once again i shocked myself because I didn’t have a great childhood, in fact it was really bad. I usually don’t care to revisit the past, so I never really paid much attention to the impact certain events have over me. I don’t know what comes naturally to me except for one thing, which is what brings me to this forum.

I have pretty black and white thinking, I don’t like anything that’s not in my tangible reality otherwise I get frustrated or dismissive. I do try and wrap my head around more nuanced ideas and while I can it’s not what I prefer. I am aware that black and white thinking is also linked to lack of experience but it bores me when something isn’t immediately applicable.

I do enjoy theory though, but I can’t keep talking and talking about it like my sister can. Anyways, I see ESTP’s who enjoy nuance, and who’re in fact put off by more black and white thinkers. Anyways, would any of you consider yourselves as black and white thinkers?

TLDR or however it’s done: Does black and white thinking attribute to SE? Do you consider yourselves black and white thinkers? ALSO I’ve read up on the functions, and I am definitely an SE dom.

an add on: what about under stress? I’m not the healthiest and therapy has made me realize that, which is why I mentioned it above. I’m wondering if the black and white thinking or as I like to say “either or” is amplified under large amounts of stress.