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I would like to hear about your personal experiences with this phenomenon of valuing entertainment over substance, and whether you agree or disagree with Socrates that our ultimate human goal should be the pursuit of Wisdom and *why?*

Do you truly believe we can make things better and that at any age people can still be taught to care?

For me I think that *ideally* we should be trying to figure out how to imbue our human experience with meaning and focus on taking care of each other and the world we share with other people and all living creatures, but know that it is an extremely tall order, and I don’t believe that we can do that *without introspection, deep thought, wisdom, and a willingness to ask questions.*

So I think that, at least to an extent, Socrates was correct to value wisdom above all else because I don’t think people are capable of making good decisions without wisdom, perspective, a healthy dose of humility, and an abundance of genuine curiosity about the world around us and how it fundamentally works!

But what do you think?

Do you truly believe we actually have the capability to put things right and teach people how to sit with uncomfortable questions again?

Or are we simply doomed to a painfully slow decline, and an eventual inevitable extinction because not enough people will mentally and emotionally evolve quickly enough?

What are your thoughts / feelings / beliefs / experiences / whatever the hell you can think up?

Happy discussing my home-skillets!

He cheated on me with multiple girls online, all goth girls with big boobs, asian , Europeans, american, ranging 17-19 years old! if I didnt have proof he will act really innocent gentleman wtf guys. I had the fucking intuition, I found all the girls he talking to while being with me even his account is private, because just pattern recognition and deduction. Damn Im not enough! He lied to me telling me he didnt talk to other girls. Damn its my first time being with estp. I have learned the hard way. He told me “do you have a proof” in my fucking face . Good thing I saved all the screenshots fuking hell. All the girls damn thats alot ngl, im not going to do online relationship again, he was about to visit me in my country good thing I got to know him fking hell! Im infp btw, I was innocent now im not anymore, I really learned that all men cheats but this kind of man I will never forget the pattern. He has the nerve to tell me “wheres the proof?” 😭

This guy asking me for a proof that he cheated, goddamn! And he has religious quote on his bio too! 😭😭😭😭 omg.. What if I didnt saved the screwnshots fucking hell good thing im a hoarder of information 😭😭😭

Also he used darvo on me! I asked who this girl is, he lied to me! Then he attack me by saying “I know your background” (That Ive been cheated on by my ex) , he used that to me to manipulate me that its all in my mind ! Wtf!!!!

Oh my god! My trust issues ! Damn my body screaming, survival instincts kicking in, intuition , all my senses activated, If you really seek, you will find what youre looking for . Anw i just share for some comfort

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I have such a good way of moving through the world and I just want to gloat LOLLL. I’m happy to know exactly what to say when how! I love knowing everything about my environment and I love exploring life and the minds of others and breaking down their walls.

If anyone wants a reading on what they want to hear most just drop a comment with anything you wanna say and I’ll try to respond to either get under your defense walls or just lighten your day maybe or ask a good question idk

Just let me know, im bored

I love ESTPs. Really cool, sincere and friendly people. Very underrated, smart but also lively and fun to be around. I wish I had ESTP besties to forget everything with, and/or have a partner to make a team with. Loneliness sucks. Y'all are awesome.

found out im an estp. also first post on reddit yippeeee!!!!!!!!

friends????

Yo I thought I was an ENTP forever turns out my big 5 proves I’m ESTP. Am I no longer an edge lord 🤡, why do I still feel like I’m entp but idk someone should analyze my brain in ‘real time’ or we should debate something silly

So I’ve been in therapy for maybe 3 months? It’s through my work, and I was only interested in therapy because of my ex, and decided to just keep attending.

she’s very neutral which I’ve come to realize I need. We recently talked about personality types, and styles of learning and all I could think was “I have no fucking idea”

We went through some of my childhood and once again i shocked myself because I didn’t have a great childhood, in fact it was really bad. I usually don’t care to revisit the past, so I never really paid much attention to the impact certain events have over me. I don’t know what comes naturally to me except for one thing, which is what brings me to this forum.

I have pretty black and white thinking, I don’t like anything that’s not in my tangible reality otherwise I get frustrated or dismissive. I do try and wrap my head around more nuanced ideas and while I can it’s not what I prefer. I am aware that black and white thinking is also linked to lack of experience but it bores me when something isn’t immediately applicable.

I do enjoy theory though, but I can’t keep talking and talking about it like my sister can. Anyways, I see ESTP’s who enjoy nuance, and who’re in fact put off by more black and white thinkers. Anyways, would any of you consider yourselves as black and white thinkers?

TLDR or however it’s done: Does black and white thinking attribute to SE? Do you consider yourselves black and white thinkers? ALSO I’ve read up on the functions, and I am definitely an SE dom.

an add on: what about under stress? I’m not the healthiest and therapy has made me realize that, which is why I mentioned it above. I’m wondering if the black and white thinking or as I like to say “either or” is amplified under large amounts of stress.

I need some perspective from you guys.

There's someone at work (let's call them Person A) who I highly suppose is an ESTP - definitely a TP type. We have a small team of 3 people, and we used to come to the office every Friday.

Recently, we agreed to split it so that each person comes in 1 Friday, the other 2 Fridays are remote. To make this easier for tracking, I created a simple schedule/list so we can see who is coming when and keep things balanced. Pretty straightforward.

For me (IxxJ), a schedule is a tool. It helps me visualize fairness, track days, and have a basis for discussions. It's flexible - a starting point, not an endpoint, it actually makes "agreeing each time" easier .

For Person A, even mentioning a schedule seems to trigger a "freedom vs. control" reaction. They interpret it as rigidity, even when I explicitly say it's just a reference.

The actual Friday isn't the issue here. I honestly don't care who goes when. The issue is the approach.

So Idk here. My question to you ESTPs:

Should I completely stop using visible structure and keep it internal? frame everything as "we decide each time" even if I track it myself? or is there a way to keep a reference system without triggering resistance?

Would appreciate perspectives, especially from people familiar with TP/ESTP communication style.

>Person A: hi
Person A: are you coming in tomorrow?
Person B: I'm going by this schedule
Person A: I'm against schedules, I think I already said that
Person B: Hi! So how would you like it to work?
Person A: With a schedule we put ourselves in rigid boxes. I'm for us just agreeing with each other.
Person A: I was off last Fri, the other person was off the Friday before, so if you're not on vacation, then tomorrow it should be you in theory.
Person B: So you want to swap with me for this week and next week?
Person A: no. I already said, I'm against schedules. I'm for us just agreeing.
Person B: I was on two Fridays in a row once, one instead of the other person. So you can count it as me being on a Friday when I was on vacation. That way the number of days will be equal for everyone.
Person B: I'm not against agreeing. That's why I drew up a schedule — to have something to go by.
Person A: look, if you don't want to come in tomorrow, I can come in, but without all these schedules. And as for "two Fridays in a row" — I already told you back then, go on your vacation and don't swap with anyone.
Person B: I understand your position. It's just easier for me to have a schedule as a reference, which is why I made one — not as a strict rule, but as a guideline. When there's some kind of baseline, it's easier for me to see the distribution of shifts and agree on changes. If anything needs to be swapped, I'm always ready to discuss it.
Person A: I'm not ready to come in on Fridays like it's some kind of rotation duty. Are you coming in tomorrow, or should I?
Person B: I can swap you and me according to the plan. It's no problem for me to redo it.
Person A: I feel like you're not hearing me — I'm against plans, schedules, and changes in your file. I'll come in tomorrow, it's fine.
Person B: Okay, understood. If you change your mind, I can come in myself, it's no problem for me.
Person A: What do you mean "change your mind"? I understood that you don't really want to come in tomorrow, so it's fine, I'll come in, it's no problem for me. If you get sick or something comes up, that's also fine, I'll come in for 2 or 3 Fridays in a row — we're adults. It's just that the more we keep clarifying this, the more likely we'll all end up coming in every Friday like before.
Person B: Okay, I understand. It's just important for me to have a reference point, but we can decide flexibly as the situation requires. For me, structure is something that helps, not something that annoys.

How much do you guys procrastinate?

I know that certain behaviors like procrastination are associated with certain types more than others but procrastination is something that I’ve really struggled with my whole life and I want to know if other ESTPs can relate.

I decided to make this post after putting on a bikini bottom instead of underwear since I procrastinated doing my laundry and am consequently out of clean underwear.

pretty sure i’m either entp, estp, or istp.
i don’t know which one and it feels like it varies by the day.
for a while i thought entp but realized what id been calling ne dom could have been me misinterpreting and actually se dom
but then sometimes i feel like se dom is a bit extra for what i actually act so i could be istp and se-aux

Hello beautiful ESTPs,

How do you fall in love and show love? - currently in a relationship with a ESTP female and we’re both infatuated by each other. We can’t stop talking to each others, we talk for an average of 4 hours a day and we tend to share each other selfies non stop. We even talk until we both pass out to sleep. Not sure if this is an ESTP signs of falling in love or if shes mismatched?

Note: when she is dead asleep, she mumbles “I love you” as she doses off to sleep.