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SeTi Profile

Source: https://cognitivetype.com/seti-full-profile/

As an SeTi type, you experience life most vividly through direct contact with it. Your attention naturally lands on what is happening here, now, and in discrete terms: the atmosphere of a room, the movement of a game, the precise quality of an object, the reaction someone just gave, or the practical reality beneath an abstract claim.

Where others may quickly convert experience into expectation, symbolism, or hypothetical alternatives, you tend to remain with the event itself. You watch it closely, enter into it, and discover what can be done with it.

This gives you an immediate and embodied form of intelligence. You do not merely observe reality from a distance. You interact with it, test it, receive feedback from it, and adjust accordingly. Whether your chosen medium is sport, music, fashion, performance, gaming, mechanics, business, visual art, or an intellectual subject, you often learn most naturally through active exposure.

The profile begins with the standard SeTi I---, before tracing the distinct changes produced by Ti, Fe, and Ni integration. In the standard form, these functions remain present but are not sufficiently integrated to consistently shape the wider personality. Internal alignment may therefore be intermittent and closely tied to the immediate case, your influence on other people may be situational rather than tied to a larger purpose, and broader patterns or implications may carry less weight than what is happening in front of you.

As these functions become integrated, SeTi can look substantially different. Ti may sharpen your recognition of what something essentially is, Fe may organize action around large-scale purposes and shared meanings, and Ni may connect immediate events to the wider contexts, patterns, and trajectories they belong to. The standard form is therefore the baseline expression of SeTi, not its only possible form.

Reality in Motion

Your attention is oriented toward actuality: things as they are presently occurring rather than as they might exist in another possible arrangement.

Se continually refreshes your perception of the environment. Instead of allowing an earlier impression to stand in for the current situation, you keep registering what has changed. What was true a moment ago may no longer be true now, and your attention remains responsive to that difference.

This naturally draws you toward dynamic environments. A dynamic game, an unfolding conversation, an active crowd, a changing visual scene, or an object that responds directly to your handling can hold your attention more strongly than something static and predetermined.

You tend to extract more information by looking further into the object itself. You may notice the precise expression on someone’s face, the exact way one technique differs from another, a flaw in an image, a shift in the atmosphere, an inconsistency in what someone just said, or a physical detail that alters the entire situation.

Your attention behaves less like a rapidly branching web of associations and more like a high-resolution scanner. The longer you attend to something, the more clearly its distinctive features emerge.

This does not mean you are detail-oriented about everything. You may overlook many details that lie outside your current interest. But within the field that has captured you, your perception can become unusually exact.

Nor does this mean your attention is always fixed on your surroundings. You may have a rich inner life, become absorbed in analysis, private interests, imagined scenarios, or your own train of thought, and sometimes seem dreamy or absent-minded. Se describes a tendency to take in information and interact with the world through direct experience and immediate feedback; it does not mean you lack interiority or remain constantly alert to everything around you. Even when you are focusing inward, however, your thoughts may still be shaped by things you have directly observed, handled, tested, or learned through involvement.

The same tendency shapes how you approach abstract material. You are not necessarily uninterested in philosophy, theory, symbolism, or complex systems, but you often want their claims brought into sharper focus:

What exactly does this mean?

What would this look like in practice?

What follows from it literally?

What is it actually claiming?

You may take an impressive-sounding abstraction and bring it down to earth. This is not necessarily a rejection of abstraction. You simply want the claim to become clear enough to examine.

Your baseline orientation is therefore realistic. You tend to trust what can be observed, demonstrated, attempted, or made to happen. Once the relevant reality appears clear, you may express your conclusion with little ambiguity:

This is what I see.

This is what is happening.

This is how things are.

This is what I want.

That certainty does not have to come from having constructed an elaborate explanation beforehand. It may arise because the relevant answer feels plainly visible within the situation itself.

Because your perception remains closely connected to what is present, recurring irritations may also be difficult to tune out, unless something else captures your attention more fully. Repetitive noise, poor lighting, awkward spacing, uncomfortable clothing, inactivity, or an irritating behavioral habit can continue imposing themselves on your attention.

Immersion and Stimulation

More than spontaneity alone, you are characterized by a hunger for immersion.

You are drawn toward activities that can absorb your senses, timing, attention, and instincts at once. The activity must give something back: movement to track, resistance to overcome, reactions to read, variations to explore, or consequences that become immediately perceptible.

This can include obvious physical activities such as sport, dance, performance, or hands-on craft, but the underlying process is not restricted to physicality. A competitive video game, an unfolding business situation, a live technical problem, or an intellectually rich subject can provide the same engagement when it continually presents new information to examine and respond to.

You tend to understand such activities from within. You place yourself in contact with the situation, observe what happens, and revise your approach. Knowledge grows through an active exchange between perception and action.

This can make you highly adaptable. Because you remain attentive to what is actually occurring, you can abandon an ineffective approach quickly rather than preserving it merely because it was previously chosen.

You often function well where conditions are changing and no complete procedure can be followed in advance. Instead of becoming paralyzed by the absence of certainty, you work with the information currently available and update your response as the situation develops.

When the environment stops changing or no longer offers meaningful feedback, however, your attention may begin to drift. You can tolerate great repetition when each attempt still offers a chance to change, improve, discover, or perform differently, but struggle with repetition that feels disconnected from any living objective.

Selective Mastery

When an activity continues producing challenge, variation, feedback, or direct involvement, you may become extraordinarily dedicated.

You can practice for years, tolerate setbacks, and develop exceptional competence because the activity itself remains alive. There is always another opponent, movement, technique, reaction, sound, or degree of control to discover.

Your discipline is therefore often domain-specific rather than universal.

You may be relentless in the area you love while remaining casual, disorganized, or resistant to routine elsewhere. You can spend countless hours perfecting one skill while neglecting paperwork, distant preparations, domestic structure, or obligations that feel detached from immediate engagement.

This can confuse observers. They may see exceptional achievement and assume that an equally orderly personality must exist behind it. In reality, your consistency often depends on whether the activity continues to stimulate your perception and invite active participation.

Your commitment is not necessarily sustained by reverence for discipline itself, but by the continued vitality of the pursuit.

When the game remains alive, you remain alive inside it. When the activity becomes inert, bureaucratic, or purely obligatory, your motivation can collapse with startling speed.

The standard SeTi pattern is therefore: intense commitment where there is genuine engagement, casual neglect where there is not.

This can produce unusual contrasts within the same person. You may demonstrate extreme patience, precision, and persistence in one field while appearing careless or unreliable in another. The difference is not always your capacity for effort, but whether the task gives your attention anything meaningful to engage with.

Play and Competition

Within the activities that capture you, you often display a playful and irreverent style.

You may enjoy competition, speed, risk, timing, technical execution, visible improvement, or simply the pleasure of doing something well. Even when you become highly accomplished, you may resist treating performance with excessive solemnity.

You might joke during serious moments, tease an opponent, improvise, show off, or visibly enjoy your own ability. Victory can become an occasion for banter, celebration, or spectacle rather than only a formal confirmation of discipline and sacrifice.

Competence feels immediate to you. Skill is not merely something you possess in principle, but something experienced through the timing of a movement, the control of an instrument, the reading of an opponent, the response of an audience, or the ease with which the environment begins to yield to you.

At your best, this produces a contagious vitality. You can make difficult things look natural because you do not always dramatize the effort behind them. There may be a looseness, swagger, or nonchalance to your execution, as though you are playing with the very situation others find intimidating.

Competition gives your energy a concrete target. You may enjoy measuring yourself against another person, a difficult technique, a performance standard, a physical limitation, a market, or any other visible result.

Because Se is rooted in actuality rather than branching possibility, your attention can acquire a comparatively linear force once the present field appears sufficiently clear. You may commit to the route that is visibly available and press it without continuing to multiply hypothetical alternatives. In a standard development, however, this certainty remains situational rather than doctrinal: it belongs to the present read and may reverse quickly when the field changes.

You may press an advantage, challenge a limitation, or bring an intention into material form without waiting for every hypothetical complication to be resolved. This can create boldness and confidence, but also cockiness when your certainty exceeds your actual command of the situation.

When supported by genuine ability, however, this confidence can become highly charismatic. It feels anchored in presence rather than explanation. You do not need to describe a philosophy of strength; the strength is apparent in how readily you enter the contest.

Direct Expression and Sensory Presence

Your speech often remains close to immediate experience. You recount concrete events, visible reactions, and situations that captured your attention, frequently conveying them as though placing the listener inside the scene:

This happened.

Then they did this.

I noticed that.

So I responded this way.

Your descriptions can become visual, visceral, graphic, funny, or unusually specific. Rather than summarizing only the general meaning of an event, you may reproduce the details that made it vivid to you.

Your humor commonly emerges from timing, teasing, understatement, confident exaggeration, situational absurdity, or physical comedy. A joke may appear spontaneously because the humorous feature of the event becomes immediately visible.

The same directness can make you blunt. You may say that the place is boring, the plan is pointless, the weather is terrible, or the performance is weak without first replacing the observation with a more ceremonially acceptable response.

This does not necessarily reflect hostility or a settled judgment about the object’s essential worth. In the standard form, bluntness often reports the present impression as it appears now. The conclusion may feel complete within the immediate scene while remaining open to rapid revision when new information enters the field.

You may also respond strongly to beauty, movement, attraction, style, sound, physical atmosphere, and the emotional electricity of direct interaction. This does not mean every SeTi individual is sexually expressive or socially flamboyant, but aesthetic experience is often encountered as something immediate and transformative rather than merely contemplated at a distance:

Music makes people move.

Clothing changes someone’s presence.

Performance alters the room.

Visual form captures the eye.

Attraction creates tension.

his can draw you toward mediums in which expression becomes directly perceptible: music, sport, dance, fashion, acting, visual production, physical comedy, performance, or any craft whose result can be seen, heard, handled, or felt.

In a standard development, your social influence often emerges through participation rather than deliberate organization. You may affect the atmosphere through humor, confidence, attractiveness, skill, intensity, or physical presence without consistently assuming responsibility for determining what the group should collectively pursue or how the interaction ought to be arranged.

You enter the social field and work with what it gives back. You may entertain, tease, provoke, compete, flirt, collaborate, or draw attention, but this influence remains more situational than intentionally governed by a sustained external judgment.

Freedom and Structure

You generally prefer enough freedom to respond to the situation as it develops.

You may resist being overmanaged, especially when an imposed procedure appears detached from current conditions. Rules that no longer correspond to reality, or obligations maintained only because they are conventional, can feel needlessly restrictive.

This does not mean that you reject discipline. You may submit to demanding training, coaching, rehearsal, or technical limitation when you can see the connection between the restriction and the result.

A useful constraint sharpens engagement. A dead constraint merely obstructs it.

You therefore tend to want rules to prove themselves through application. A principle that produces no perceptible improvement can feel unnecessary, while one that immediately sharpens performance may be absorbed without resistance.

You may also prefer to retain room for improvisation. Too much advance specification can prevent you from taking advantage of opportunities that only become visible once the event is underway.

This self-direction supports experimentation and adaptability, but it can also become self-indulgence. You may assume that because an activity feels compelling, it deserves priority. In protecting your freedom to pursue what interests you, you can neglect the less stimulating conditions that make that freedom possible.

Vulnerabilities

With a I--- development, the immediate event often carries more psychological weight than its wider implications.

You may postpone tasks that offer no present engagement, underestimate cumulative consequences, rely too heavily on improvisation, or pursue stimulation despite foreseeable risks. Remote outcomes can seem comparatively insubstantial beside the vividness of what is happening now.

You may also trust your current read too completely. When something appears obvious, you can assume it is fully understood, even when hidden motives, historical context, or patterns extending beyond the local scene have not yet become visible. Your realism can therefore become too narrow, closing inquiry before the event has been situated within its broader structure.

Your selective discipline may create another imbalance. You can develop exceptional mastery in one area while allowing the supporting structure of your life to remain unstable. The responsibilities that bore you may nevertheless determine whether the activity you value can continue.

You may also overestimate your ability to improvise out of difficulty. Because adaptability has often worked for you, you can assume it will continue working even after the consequences have become cumulative or irreversible.

Poorly integrated Ti can leave your judgments dependent on the immediate object or situation without a sufficiently stable sense of its essential nature. You may detect that something is inaccurate, impure, poorly fitted, or improperly classified without clearly identifying which defining property has been violated. You may also treat contextual or accidental features as though they belonged to the object itself, or fail to apply the same ideal distinction consistently across similar cases.

Poorly integrated Fe can leave you insufficiently attentive to conscious purposes and external ethical implications when making decisions. You may recognize what is materially happening without consistently considering what people are trying to accomplish, which human ends a system serves, or what shared interpretation the situation is producing. At other times, this may reverse into irregular attempts to shape the human environment through charm, provocation, pressure, shame, excitement, or visible approval and disapproval.

Poorly integrated Ni can leave events overly localized. You may see the immediate facts clearly while missing the wider pattern they instantiate across other contexts, relationships, domains, or moments. The larger significance may become apparent only after the same structure has repeated itself several times.

Function Integration

The integration of Ti, Fe, and Ni changes how your Se orientation is internally classified, organized around human purposes, and situated within wider patterns.

Ti sharpens your recognition of an object’s essential identity and its proximity to an ideal form. Fe increasingly organizes actuality around conscious aims, collective interpretations, interpersonal effects, and the responses they are meant to produce. Ni perceives the local situation as an instance of structures that recur beyond its immediate context and converge toward broader outcomes.

Ti Integration

As Ti becomes integrated, you become more attentive to what something essentially is.

As a Ji function, Ti is essentialist in nature. It examines an object in relative isolation and compares it against an internally held ideal category. The question is not only whether something works in the current situation, but what kind of thing it fundamentally is, which properties properly belong to it, and how closely the present instance conforms to its purest definition.

You may therefore ask:

What is the defining property here?

Does this example genuinely belong to that category?

Which features are essential and which are incidental?

How closely does this expression fit the ideal form?

Have two fundamentally different things been improperly conflated?

This creates a caliber sensitivity. A technique may be recognizable as the right general movement while still feeling impure in its execution. A word may be approximately correct but not the closest match. An explanation may point in the right direction while incorporating properties that do not belong to the concept itself.

You may therefore become very exact about distinctions.

This can appear in physical or technical domains:

That angle is almost right, but not clean.

That note is close, but slightly off.

That material belongs to the same class, but its properties differ in an important way.

That performance contains the right form, but not at its highest caliber.

It can also appear in abstract domains:

Those concepts overlap, but they are not identical.

That interpretation mistakes a derivative feature for the defining one.

That word carries associations that distort the object being described.

That case does not conform closely enough to the category being applied.

In creative domains, the same process may appear as a strong sensitivity to whether a sound, image, gesture, style, or persona captures the intended form without dilution. You may reject a technically polished result because it feels generic, derivative, falsely classified, or fundamentally untrue to the object being expressed.

You may strip away familiar conventions in order to expose a more essential form, resist genre boundaries that misrepresent the work, or repeatedly alter an arrangement until it matches the private standard you recognize. The result may not look orderly or conventionally refined. It may be raw, fragmented, minimal, abrasive, unconventional, or difficult to categorize while still feeling internally exact.

This can also apply to personal identity. You may be highly sensitive to whether a role, image, label, or mode of expression genuinely corresponds to who you understand yourself to be. An externally successful persona can be abandoned when it begins to feel false in form, while an unconventional expression may be preserved despite ridicule because it fits the internal calibration more faithfully.

Ti integration does not inherently make you procedural, deductive, formally logical, or systematically organized. Those qualities may develop through education or through interaction with other cognitive processes, but they are not Ti’s defining operation.

Its more basic contribution is the formation of an internally held ideal against which individual perceptions can be calibrated.

This can noticeably alter the visible character of SeTi. You may appear more exacting, distilled, philosophically self-contained, conceptually sparse, or resistant to contextual pressure than the standard form.

The urgency of the present no longer determines every judgment. An action may be effective while still feeling fundamentally wrong in form. A popular interpretation may be widely useful while still misclassifying the object. A practical shortcut may be rejected because it compromises the essential integrity of the activity.

The risk is excessive idealization. You may become preoccupied with purity, reject workable approximations because they fail to match the internal ideal, or ignore contextual differences that legitimately alter how a category should be applied.

You may also have difficulty explaining your judgment. The calibration can register immediately and holistically - something simply feels clean, distorted, exact, or impure - without arriving through an explicit sequence that others can easily follow.

Fe Integration

As Fe becomes integrated, actuality is being interpreted in relation to human purposes, intentions, and shared meanings.

Fe is a teleological form of judgment. Rather than viewing an action, object, institution, or causal arrangement only through its impersonal mechanics, it asks what conscious purpose it serves, what people are trying to accomplish through it, and what human outcome the situation should be organized toward.

An object is therefore not understood only through what it physically does.

A vehicle may be the means by which someone reaches their family, earns a living, or preserves independence.

Money may be understood not only as an exchange mechanism, but as a collective agreement sustained by trust.

A rule may be judged not only by how efficiently it controls behavior, but by the human purpose it was created to serve.

A performance may be understood through the experience it creates for the audience, not merely through its technical execution.

As Fe becomes integrated, you may ask:

What are the people involved trying to accomplish?

Which purpose does this arrangement serve?

What response should this action produce in others?

What shared meaning should be attached to what is happening?

How should people participate for the intended outcome to become possible?

This can lead you to more deliberately shape the human environment.

You may set the social tone, draw people into a shared activity, establish visible expectations, encourage or discourage behaviors, persuade others toward a conclusion, or coordinate participation around a common objective.

The Se foundation can make this especially responsive to the live field. You may notice what the group is doing now, which intention is driving the interaction, where enthusiasm is rising or falling, and which intervention might immediately alter the atmosphere or the meaning being assigned to the event.

Rather than only participating in an environment, you may begin determining how it should be interpreted.

In public or competitive settings, this can become especially visible. You may frame what a contest represents, define the stakes, establish how rivals or participants should be perceived, and create expectations for how others should respond before the result is settled. The human purpose being organized need not be benevolent, egalitarian, or conventionally noble. It may concern victory, prestige, loyalty, intimidation, collective confidence, entertainment, admiration, rivalry, or the public elevation of a person, team, nation, or ideal.

Confidence may become more than a private state. It can be displayed as a social signal intended to inspire allies, unsettle rivals, attract attention, or make a particular outcome feel inevitable.

You may cultivate a memorable public identity, dramatize the significance of a performance, turn personal achievement into a visible standard, or create a larger-than-life persona that others are invited to admire, challenge, imitate, or oppose.

Humor, provocation, celebration, intimidation, ritual, self-presentation, and public declarations can all become tools for constructing the human meaning of the event.

This can strengthen leadership, persuasion, performance, coaching, collective coordination, public positioning, and the ability to turn an immediate contest or achievement into a socially compelling narrative.

Technical or physical mastery may increasingly be used not only for its own sake, but to train others, inspire an audience, represent a group, embody a shared ideal, or produce a deliberate emotional effect.

The risk is that purpose and meaning can be imposed rather than discovered. You may assume that you know what others should want, define people through a public frame that serves your aims, or use charm, excitement, shame, approval, exclusion, ridicule, or pressure to force the environment toward your preferred interpretation.

You may also become overly invested in status, spectacle, or visible response, treating every achievement as incomplete until it has been socially recognized.

Integration does not necessarily make Fe benevolent. It makes teleological judgment concerning conscious agents more sustained, explicit, and central to the personality. The same capacity that can inspire, coordinate, or represent others can also organize status, pressure, antagonism, exclusion, humiliation, or dominance when those are the human outcomes toward which the person is oriented.

Ni Integration

As Ni becomes integrated, the immediate event is being perceived as one local expression of a broader translocal pattern.

Ni does not only extend attention into the future. It notices structural correspondences across contexts that are not connected through obvious local adjacency. Two events may occur in different periods, relationships, domains, or locations while still expressing the same underlying form.

You may therefore ask:

What larger pattern is this an instance of?

Where else does this same structure appear?

What general form connects these otherwise separate events?

What does this moment signify beyond its local circumstances?
How is this pattern likely to continue unfolding?

A competitive exchange may echo a broader power dynamic.

A personal habit may reproduce a pattern visible elsewhere in someone’s life.

A social conflict may instantiate the same structure as a historical or symbolic narrative.

A present decision may be recognized as one stage within a pattern extending across time.

This gives the actuality perceived by Se a wider significance.

You remain attentive to the concrete facts of the present, but they are no longer treated as self-contained. Separate observations begin converging into a more unified read of what the situation is becoming.

A repeated reaction may reveal the deeper structure governing someone’s behavior.

Several isolated openings may point toward one decisive path.

A sequence of events may clarify which outcomes remain viable and which are gradually being eliminated.

What first appeared chaotic may begin resolving into a recognizable trajectory.

Trajectory therefore follows from translocal pattern recognition. If the same structure can be perceived across past and present moments, its likely continuation may also become visible.

You may also become more selective about which opportunities deserve engagement. Two options may look equally compelling in the immediate moment, but one belongs to the larger path you perceive while the other leads away from it.

Rather than reacting equally to every opening, you may ignore locally attractive options that do not contribute to the broader outcome.

In competitive or high-pressure settings, this can appear as strategic patience, predictive timing, selective aggression, and the ability to treat separate exchanges as parts of one unfolding structure rather than isolated moments.

You may spend an early phase gathering information, noticing repeated responses, testing which variables remain stable, and allowing the deeper pattern to clarify before committing fully.

Once the pattern becomes legible, your behavior may narrow rapidly. Exploration gives way to convergence. Several possible routes collapse into one clear course, and your actions begin serving an outcome that may not yet be obvious to others.

This can create an air of inevitability. The present is handled as though the result is already taking shape beneath it.

In other settings, the same process may appear as recognizing which career path, relationship dynamic, creative direction, or social development is becoming increasingly likely, then concentrating your effort accordingly.

Ni integration can therefore make SeTi appear more restrained, strategic, interpretive, patient, or singularly focused than the standard form.

Se identifies what is concretely happening. Ni perceives what larger structure the event belongs to and where that structure is converging. You may remain highly responsive to changing conditions while refusing to let every immediate stimulus divert you from the larger path.

The risk is overgeneralization and premature convergence. You may see one pattern everywhere, treat superficial correspondences as profound equivalences, or narrow toward an outcome before enough information has accumulated. You may become overly certain that the trajectory is inevitable, interpreting new information only as confirmation of where you already believe events are going.

You may also sacrifice valuable present opportunities because they do not fit the pattern you have selected, or attempt to remain on the path toward an anticipated outcome that reality no longer supports.

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u/Maned_Wolf_444 — 2 days ago

Ortho Shroud

Twisted Wonderland is basically Descendants meets Harry Potter

Ortho is a member of Ignihyde, a dorm based on Hades from Disney's Hercules

It is unclear which Hercules's character Ortho is based on; he kind of plays the role of the Titans in the main story, and he has a lot of Cerberus imagery associated with him, but frankly, he seems based more on Pinocchio than anything else

>Idia's little brother. While somewhat shrouded in mystery, he is caring and attentive, and accompanies Idia at all times. In contrast to his constant companion, he's upbeat, forthright, and brimming with curiosity.

u/Maned_Wolf_444 — 6 days ago

Leona Kingscholar

Twisted Wonderland is basically Descendants meets Harry Potter

Leona is based on Scar

>Housewarden of Savanaclaw. Perpetually effort-averse, his immense magical ability contrasts with his lazy demeanor. Given his position as the secondborn prince in his homeland, he treats others with an imperious attitude.

u/Maned_Wolf_444 — 24 days ago
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TiSe vs ISTP

In this article, I will analyze each CT type against its MBTI counterpart. To do that, I devised the following system:

I went through the CT database, checking each person’s PDB profile. If the profile had 100 or more MBTI votes, both the person and the majority vote type were registered. This is to avoid profiles with too few MBTI votes skewing the data. If any of the alternative types received 50% or more of the votes the majority-voted type received, it was also registered. This is to account for people with ambiguous typings.

In this article, we will go over TiSe individuals, i.e., people with a vultology that is Reactive, Rigid, Measured, and Grounded. The MBTI equivalent would be ISTPs.

TiSe List

  • Ana de Armas - ISFP/INFJ
  • Andrew VanWyngarden - INFP/ENFP
  • Angelina Jolie - ESTP
  • Anya Taylor-Joy - ENFJ/ESFJ
  • Bryan Johnson - INTJ
  • Eddie Vedder - ISFP/INFJ
  • Elon Musk - INTP/INTJ
  • George Harrison - INFJ
  • Ghostemane - INTP
  • IU (entertainer) - INFP
  • Jack Dorsey - ISTP
  • Jared Leto - ISFP
  • Johnny Depp - INFP
  • Lewis Hamilton - ISFP
  • Margot Robbie - ESFJ
  • Marques Brownlee - ISTP
  • Mia Wasikowska - INFP
  • Michael Jackson - ISFP
  • Michelle Pfeiffer - INFJ
  • Shohei Ohtani - ISFP/ISFJ
  • Taylor Swift - ESFJ
  • Tobey Maguire - INFP
  • Tony Hawk - ISTP
  • Tori Amos - INFJ/INFP
  • Virgil van Dijk - ESTJ/ISTP
  • Zoë Kravitz - ISFP/ENFP

Statistics

Total = 26 samples.

Most common types

  1. ISFP - 20% (7 samples)
  2. INFP - 17% (6 samples)
  3. INFJ - 14% (5 samples)

Notable dominances

Introversion (77%) > Extroversion (23%)

  • Se - 34%

Feeling (72%) > Thinking (28%)

  • Fi - 43%

Analysis

First, the similarities: the vast majority of the samples were typed as Introverted, which indicates a high degree of overlap between how both systems define introversion (at least as far as Ti is concerned). Another similarity is the prevalence of high Se, again indicating high overlap, with both systems associating it with sports and entertainment.

However, both systems have notable differences: most of the TiSe samples were typed as Feelers, primarily as high Fi users. The most common reason for a T/F mismatch between MBTI and CT is agreeableness. In MBTI, agreeableness is often correlated with Feeling. In contrast, in CT, it is associated with an unguarded emotional attitude, which means that Adaptive TiSes are very likely to be typed as feelers in MBTI, especially females. Indeed, I suspect that is likely the main reason behind the INFJ typings.

However, I believe there is more to the prevalence of Fi in particular. In MBTI, identity-focus, self-expression, and authenticity are strongly associated with Fi specifically. But in CT, they are seen as Ji traits shared by both Fi and Ti, though each approaches it very differently. Fi will prioritize ensuring that all their work perfectly resonates with their inner essence, even if this makes them seem eccentric or odd to others. Meanwhile, Ti tends to display their individuality by mastering their craft, always aiming for polish and perfection in their technique, and analytical control in their presentations. One way to put it is that Fi art says "This is me", while Ti art says "This is my best." This is the reason so many TiSe are in fields like art and entertainment (music, acting, content creation).

Which leads us to our last topic, the absence of "typical" ISTPs. In MBTI, ISTPs are usually seen as self-reliant, competent, pragmatic, and stoic; from a CT perspective, what most would consider a stereotypical ISTP is actually way closer to a Te-lead than a TiSe. In CT, TiSe's craft mastery isn't motivated by self-reliance or independence, but rather by creative self-expression and perfectionistic idealism. This, combined with what was previously discussed about Feelers and Fi, is likely the reason why so few TiSe's are typed ISTP.

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u/Maned_Wolf_444 — 24 days ago
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SeTi vs ESTP

In this article, I will analyze each CT type against its MBTI counterpart. To do that, I devised the following system:

I went through the CT database, checking each person’s PDB profile. If the profile had 100 or more MBTI votes, both the person and the majority vote type were registered. This is to avoid profiles with too few MBTI votes skewing the data. If any of the alternative types received 50% or more of the votes the majority-voted type received, it was also registered. This is to account for people with ambiguous typings.

In this article, we will go over NeTi individuals, i.e., people with a vultology that is Proactive, Fluid, Measured, and Grounded. The MBTI equivalent would be ESTPs.

SeTi List

  • Aaliyah - ISFP
  • Amala Ekpunobi - INTJ/ISFP
  • Anthony Joshua - INFJ
  • Barry Keoghan - ESFP/ENTP
  • Beyoncé - ISFJ/ESFP/ESTJ
  • Brendan Fraser - ISFP
  • Bruce Springsteen - ENFP
  • Chris Martin - ENFP/INFP
  • Cillian Murphy - INTJ
  • Conor McGregor - ESTP
  • Cristiano Ronaldo - ESFP/ENTJ
  • Daniil Dubov - INTP
  • Dave Chappelle - ENFP/ENTP
  • David Bowie - INFP
  • David Laid - INTJ
  • Drake (musician) - ESFJ/ENFJ
  • Eminem - ISTP
  • Ezra Miller - ENFP
  • Harry Styles - ENFJ/ESFP
  • Israel Adesanya - ENFP
  • Jackson Wang - ESFP/ENFJ
  • James McAvoy - ENFP
  • Joan Jett - ISTP
  • Jon Jones - ISTP/ESTP
  • Juice WRLD - INFP
  • Justin Bieber - ESFP
  • Keanu Reeves - INFP
  • Kendrick Lamar - INFJ
  • Kevin Parker - INFP
  • Khabib Nurmagomedov - ISTP/ISTJ
  • Khamzat Chimaev - ESTP
  • Kurt Cobain - INFP
  • Kylian Mbappé - ESTP/ESFJ
  • Kyrie Irving - ISFP
  • Lamine Yamal - ESFP/ISFP
  • Leonardo DiCaprio - ESFP
  • Louis Tomlinson - ENFP
  • Madison Beer - ENFJ
  • Mads Mikkelsen - ESFP
  • MGK - ESTP/ESFP
  • Mike Tyson - ISFP
  • Novak Djokovic - INFJ/ESTP
  • Pete Wentz - ISTP/ENTP
  • Peter Murphy (musician) - INFJ/INFP
  • Rhea Ripley - ESTP
  • Rihanna - ISFP
  • River Phoenix - INFJ
  • Ryan Higa - ENTP/INTP
  • Samuel L. Jackson - ESTP
  • Sean Strickland - ESFP/ESTP
  • Thom Yorke - INFP
  • Tom Hardy - ISTP
  • Trent Reznor - INTJ
  • Usain Bolt - ESTP
  • Zac Efron - ISFP
  • Zayn Malik - ISFP
  • Zlatan Ibrahimović - ESTP

Statistics

Total = 57 samples.

Most common types

  1. ESTP/ESFP - 14% each (11 people each)
  2. ISFP - 12% (9 people)

Notable dominances

  • Se - 48%
  • Fi - 45%

Perceiving (75%) > Judging (25%)

Analysis

The first thing that stands out is that the vast majority of the sample were typed as high-Se types. This reflects the overall similarity between how both systems define the Se function. In both systems, ESxPs/Se-leads are associated with both performing arts (music, acting, comedy) and sports. So overall, these results aren't unexpected.

But something else of notice is the prevalence of high-Fi typings. The most common reason for a T/F mismatch between MBTI and CT is agreeableness. In MBTI, agreeableness is often correlated with Feeling. In contrast, in CT, it is associated with an unguarded emotional attitude, which means that Adaptive SeTis are very likely to be typed as feelers in MBTI, especially females. Looking at the samples, I noticed a strong pattern of identity-focus, self-expression, and authenticity. In MBTI, these are strongly associated with Fi specifically, but in CT, they are seen as Ji traits shared by both Fi and Ti, though each approaches it very differently. Fi will prioritize ensuring that all their work perfectly resonates with their inner essence, even if this makes them seem eccentric or odd to others. Meanwhile, Ti tends to display their individuality by mastering their craft, always aiming for polish and perfection in their technique, and analytical control in their presentations. One way to put it is that Fi art says "This is me", while Ti art says "This is my best."

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u/Maned_Wolf_444 — 29 days ago

FeSi vs ESFJ

In this article, I will analyze each CT type against its MBTI counterpart. To do that, I devised the following system:

I went through the CT database, checking each person’s PDB profile. If the profile had 100 or more MBTI votes, both the person and the majority vote type were registered. This is to avoid profiles with too few MBTI votes skewing the data. If any of the alternative types received 50% or more of the votes the majority-voted type received, it was also registered. This is to account for people with ambiguous typings.

In this article, we will go over FeSi individuals, i.e., people with a vultology that is Proactive, Rigid, Measured, and Suspended. The MBTI equivalent would be ESFJs.

FeSi List

  • Alain de Botton - INFJ
  • Alex Jones - ENFP
  • Barack Obama - ENFJ/ENTP
  • Bernie Sanders - INTJ
  • Charlie Houpert - ENFJ/ENTP
  • Christoph Waltz - INTJ
  • Darren Aronofsky - INFJ
  • Dave Rubin - ESFJ/ENFJ
  • Devin Stone - ESTJ/ENTJ
  • Dolly Parton - ESFJ/ESFP
  • Dwayne Johnson - ESTP/ESFJ
  • Emily Blunt - ISTP
  • Emma Watson - ESTJ/ISFJ
  • Giancarlo Esposito - ENFJ
  • Gillian Anderson - ENTJ/INFJ
  • Heidi Klum - ESTJ
  • Jacinda Ardern - ENFJ
  • Jeff Cavaliere - ESTJ/INFJ
  • Joe Biden - ESFJ
  • Jon Bernthal - ESTP/ENTJ
  • Kate McKinnon - ENTP
  • Kyle Kulinski - ENTJ/ISTJ
  • Michio Kaku - ENFP
  • Rachel McAdams - ISFJ
  • Richard Ayoade - INTP
  • Simon Sinek - INFJ
  • Stephen King - INTP
  • Tai Lopez - ENTP/ENFP
  • Tilda Swinton - INFJ
  • Tom Cruise - ESTP/ISTP
  • Yuval Noah Harari - INTJ

Statistics

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Total sample = 31 people

Most common type

  1. INFJ - 14% (6 people)

Notable dominances

  • Ni - 41%
  • Fe - 39%

Judging (66%) > Perceiving (34%)

Analysis

There is a prevalence of high Ni and Fe typings on the list. This, I find, is a curious indicator of the similarities and differences between the two systems' views of Fe. In both systems, Fe is associated with charismatic leadership, emotional handling, and management of social dynamics. However, in MBTI, Fe focuses on social harmony, whereas in CT, it focuses on social organization. A focus on social harmony is a feature of highly agreeable temperaments, meaning that in MBTI, Fe is almost synonymous with high agreeableness, while on CT, agreeableness - and social harmony by extension - are covered by one's emotional attitude. As a result, highly Adaptive Ti-lead/auxs and Seelie individuals - especially females - will be prone to being typed as xxFJs in MBTI. Explain why some individuals, almost unanimously considered ESFJs in MBTI, are not FeSi under CT.

Now, to address the prevalence of high Ni. This is most likely due to some aspects of CT's Fe being associated with Ni in MBTI. In CT, the Je functions are responsible for dealing with cause-and-effect relationships and, as such, tend to define things by what they do. When this is combined with Feeling (which is responsible for registering animacy), the result is that Fe tends to define things by their human-centric purpose. As a result, strong Fe users are often preoccupied with the idea of one's life purpose, calling, or destiny. Fe also sees human character as inherently malleable, our self as molded by our experiences and influences, and constantly changing with every social interaction, and since Je functions are driven to reorganize the world into more optimal states, Fe-leads often develop a focus on human-centric self-improvement, especially with the idea of overcoming one's limitations through hardwork and determination, which is why so many Fe-leads are life-coaches or educators of some sort. However, from an MBTI perspective, a focus on purpose is likely to be associated with Ni's search for deeper meaning, while a focus on self-improvement could be seen as an extension of Ni's future-focused visionarism.

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u/Maned_Wolf_444 — 1 month ago

LGBT Headcanons

Basically canon

  • Cater - bi (openly flirts with both boys and girls - at least in JP)
  • Azul - gay (obvious crush on Jamil)
  • Idia - ace (see Phantom Bride)
  • Malleus - pan (crush on Yuu)
  • Lilia - bi (royal throuple)

Heavily Implied

  • Ace - pan (possible crush on Yuu - also his Phantom Bride vignette kind of gave closeted)
  • Trey and Vil - both gay (vibes + they go on a date on Vil's lab coat vignette)
  • Rook - bi (self-explanatory
  • Rollo - self-hating closeted gay - repressed attraction to Malleus

I see the vision

  • Riddle - being closeted goes well with his backstory
  • Leona - ex behavior with Vil
  • Jack - demi? (see Ace Phantom Bride vignette)
  • Epel - vibes say closeted bi
  • Sebek - gay for Malleus? - I kind of prefer the platonic worship love interpretation
  • Floyd and Kalim - just vibes

Not feeling it

  • Ortho and Grim - N/A
  • The rest - completely valid if you headcanon them as LGBT, but I just don't see it

It's Complicated

  • Yuu (all of them) - male-attracted
  • The Staff - I don't particularly care about any of them in this respect - actually prefer Crewel as gender non-conforming straight - if the Crowley = Raverne theory is true, then confirmed bisexual
  • Skully and Swing - haven't read the second NBC event, but from what I heard, Swing is probably basically canon and Skully goes to heavily implied
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u/Maned_Wolf_444 — 1 month ago

NeTi vs ENTP

In this article, I will analyze each CT type against its MBTI counterpart. To do that, I devised the following system:

I went through the CT database, checking each person's PDB profile. If the profile had 100 or more MBTI votes, both the person and the majority-voted type were registered. This is to avoid profiles with too few MBTI votes skewing the data. If any of the alternative types received 50% or more of the votes the majority-voted type received, it was also registered. This is to account for people with ambiguous typings.

In this article, we will go over NeTi individuals, i.e., people with a vultology that is Proactive, Fluid, Measured, and Suspended. The MBTI equivalent would be ENTPs.

NeTi List

  • Adam Young - INFP
  • Andy Samberg - ENFP
  • Ari Aster - INTP
  • Ariana Grande - ESFJ
  • Avril Lavigne - ISFP
  • Beck - ENFP/INFP
  • Bill Wurtz - INTP
  • Chris Cornell - INTJ
  • Elizabeth Olsen - ISFJ/ENTP
  • Eva Green - INFP
  • Florence Welch - INFP
  • Hank Green - ENFP/ENTP
  • Hannah Pearl Davis - ESFJ/ESTJ
  • Heath Ledger - INFP
  • Hozier - INFJ
  • Imogen Heap - ENFP/ENTP
  • Jim Carrey - ENFP/ENTP
  • Levy Rozman - ENFP/ENTP
  • Liam Payne - ISFJ/ESFJ
  • Lionel Messi - ISFP
  • Logic (rapper) - ESFJ/INTP
  • Magnus Carlsen - ISTP
  • Matt Smith - ENFP
  • Matthew Gray Gubler - ENFP
  • Michael Stevens (YouTuber) - ENTP
  • Naoki Urasawa - INFJ
  • Pete Davidson - ENFP
  • PewDiePie - INTP/ENTP
  • Sufjan Stevens - INFJ
  • Tim Burton - INFP
  • Tom Holland - ENFP

Statistics

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Total sample = 31 people.

Most common types

  1. ENFP - 24% (10 people)
  2. ENTP - 17% (7 people)
  3. INFP - 15% (6 people)

Notable dominances

Intuition (75%) > Sensing (25%)

  • Ne - 66%

Feeling (67%) > Thinking (33%)

  • Fi - 44%

Perceiving (73%) > Judging (27%)

Analysis

The first thing that stands out is that the vast majority of the sample were typed as high-Ne types. This reflects the overall similarity between how both systems define the Ne function. In both systems, ExxPs/Pe-leads are associated with entertainment, comedy, and creativity. So overall, these results aren't unexpected.

One thing you may note is the lack of "inventor" types. STEM in general is more strongly associated with Te in CT, with what one would call the "inventor" shade correlated with the delta types (Te-Fi + Ne-Si), especially the extroverted deltas (NeFi and TeSi). The closest to this shade in the sample are Michael Stevens and Hank Green, who are both science communicators. In their case, it likely comes from Fe's drive for human-centric self-improvement.

Lastly, I would like to speculate about the prevalence of high Fi typings. The most common reason for a T/F mismatch between MBTI and CT is agreeableness. In MBTI, agreeableness is often correlated with Feeling. In contrast, in CT, it is associated with an unguarded emotional attitude, which means that Adaptive NeTis are very likely to be typed as feelers in MBTI, especially females. Looking at the samples, particularly among musicians, one may notice strong themes of emotional intensity, vulnerability, and melancholy, which under MBTI would be considered clear indicators of Fi/feeling; however, under a CT viewpoint, this emotionality is still presented with the deliberation of Fe, rather than the unbridledness of Fi.

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u/Maned_Wolf_444 — 2 months ago

Relic Labyrinth NPC's

An overview/apreciation post for the new NPCs named in the Relic Labyrinth events, because wow, they put a lot of effort into characters that don't even have sprites

Lucien Benoit

  • Dorm: Scarabia
  • Year: Junior

Claire Fontaine

  • Dorm: Pomefiore
  • Year Sophomore

Talis Ferris

  • Dorm: Ignihyde
  • Year: Junior

Overall, they generally behave as one would expect people from their dorms to: Lucien is very careful, Claire is very... upper-class, Talis is a timid nerd.

It's theorized that they are based on the golden scarab, the disguise potion, and Charon, respectively.

Lucien is into ancient ruins and architecture, which lends credence to him being the golden scarab.

Claire is very fond of challenging people to fight by literally throwing down the gauntlet. I vaguely remember a Pomefiore NPC doing that a couple of times; it's possible it was him.

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Oliver Marchfield

  • Dorm: Rosauroria
  • Year: Junior

Winter Blessbell

  • Dorm: Rosauroria
  • Year: Unknown

Tim Kamba

  • Dorm: Privalor
  • Year: Sophomore

Sylvie Constille

  • Dorm: Psycheros
  • Year: Sophomore

Vega Allenby

  • Dorm: Psycheros
  • Year: Unknown

We didn't get much about Winter, Sylvie, or Vega, but Oliver and Tim got to be paired with Rielle and Minajael.

Oliver is very good at Magical Analysis, probably his best subject, and spends most of Part 3 playing babysitter to Rielle.

Tim is in a sports club and somehow didn't realize that the princess from a Drama Club play he watched wasn't played by a woman, but rather by Minajael in drag.

It is theorized that Oliver and Winter are twisted from Fauna and Merryweather, respectively. Which I guess would mean the Rosauroria housewarden would be twstFlora, instead of a fusion of all three good fairies; I mean, Flora was the leader of their trio on the movie so it would make sense; does that mean Oliver and Winter are fey? I feel like that should have been established, but then again, they committed to not even give them sprites, so concealing their species wouldn't be that weird.

Tim is probably Timon (meerkat beatman?), some people suggested he might be both Timon and Pumbaa, but I don't particularly care for the idea

No idea what Sylvie and Vega are supposed to be; I have seen suggestions for Phil (Sylvie), Pegasus, that white flower Hercules gives to Meg (Vega), and constellations (both).

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Is not hard to figure out that most probably we will have 4 students of each dorm playing in the games from both sides, so we can guess how many other NPCs we will meet and their dorms, for NRC:

1 from Heartslabyul

2 from Savanaclaw

1 from Octavinelle

2 from Scarabia (including Lucien)

2 from Pomefiore (including Claire)

3 from Ignihyde (including Talis)

1 from Diasomnia

as for RSA:

Charblance: Neige + either 3 Charblanche NPCs or (god forbid) 3 of the Seven Swords

Houream: twstAlice, Chenya + 2 others

Rosauroria: twstGoodfaries (twstFlora?), Oliver, Winter + 1 more

Marinafinne: Rielle + 3 others

Dunasmina: Minajael + 3 others

Privalor: twstNala, Tim + 2 others

Psycheros: twstMeg, Sylvie, Vega + 1 more

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u/Maned_Wolf_444 — 2 months ago

Twisted Halloween

Twisted Wonderland is basically Descendants meets Harry Potter

Their Halloween events are HUGE

First Halloween event - Terror Is Trending

>Halloween is here! A special time when the living and the not-so-living can party together. At Night Raven College, that means fancy costumes, elaborate decorations, and delectable treats! Everyone is pitching in to ensure a memorable Halloween, but some unruly visitors are threatening to turn this party into a living nightmare!

Second Halloween event - Spectral Soiree

>As Halloween draws to a close, the students of Night Raven College turn in for some well-deserved rest. But any thoughts of life returning to normal are shattered when some students suddenly vanish! If that weren't strange enough, the night never gives way to morning, trapping the survivors in an endless Halloween night.
Those who remain find a mysterious party invitation and head off to investigate...

u/Maned_Wolf_444 — 2 months ago

Disney's Twisted Wonderland Lost in the Book with Baymax

Twisted Wonderland is basically Descendants meets Harry Potter

Lost in the Book with Baymax is a Big Hero 6-themed event

>A mysterious book discovered in the infirmary. The moment it's opened, a brilliant light bursts forth...
When opening eyes, they find themselves lost in a futuristic science city!?
Massive towering skyscrapers, an unfamiliar cityscape, and a encounter with Baymax.
Together with the students of Night Raven College, they'll team up with Baymax and take on thrilling robot battles!

u/Maned_Wolf_444 — 2 months ago
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Energetics and development

Je-leads (Fe/Te)

Pure Je > Does not hesitate in action; moves to organize and execute upon reality directly

Integrated Pi > actions are paced by an understanding of how things unfold over time

Integrated Pe > drives reality while adapting their approach to changing conditions

Integrated Ji > acts while ensuring their actions remain aligned with their internal principles

Ji-leads (Ti/Fi)

Pure Ji > Does not rely on engagement with reality as the primary means of establishing truth; disengages from it to determine what holds true against their internal criteria

Integrated Pe > refines truth through selective contact with reality, allowing new input to sharpen their internal standards

Integrated Pi > establishes truth with the help of an internally accumulated narrative

Integrated Je > acts once they are sufficiently certain of the truth they established internally

Pe-leads (Ne/Se)

Pure Pe > Does not rely on fixed direction to engage with reality; explores it as it unfolds, chasing what captures their attention

Integrated Ji > explores first, and refines as they go, allowing their internal criteria to gradually shape their path

Integrated Je > engages with reality while capitalizing on the opportunities it presents

Integrated Pi > experiences reality while tracking how it is unfolding

Pi-leads (Si/Ni)

Pure Pi > Does not enter into reality; holds it within a narrative, tracks its movement, and watches it unfold

Integrated Je >translates that narrative into structured expression

Integrated Ji > continuously examines their understanding to ensure it accurately reflects that unfolding

Integrated Pe > enters into reality to update their understanding of how it unfolds

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u/Maned_Wolf_444 — 2 months ago

Predictions for the roster of the Interchampionship events

so here is my take on which of the boys will play in which events and my logic behind it

first let's stablish under what assumptions I'm operating

  1. each event will have 4 characters

  2. there will be no two characters of the same dorm in a single event; while there is no such rule in-universe, as seen with two Scarabia members (Jamil and Lucien) participating in the Relic Labyrinth, from a narrative standpoint, the events are an opportunity to pair up characters that seldom are together in the main story, so Im confident that there will be no dorm repeats on as far as the main boys are concerned

  3. The Overblot boys will likely be divided like this: 3 events will have couples, while one will have a single, with their RSA counterparts always matching

  4. The boys that participated in the training will not participate in the respective events, so for example: Cater, Floyd, and Idia participated in the Spelldrive demonstration, so we will assume they won't be on the roster of the actual events

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Now for my deduction:

First, I started placing the obvious ones based on the boys' skill set

Leona goes to Spelldrive

Vil and Jade to Mystic Mortar

Rook and Silver to Seeker's Gathering

We can also assume Idia will go to Mystic Mortar since it is the least physically demanding event left

Since Mystic Mortar already has two Overblot boys, and since Silver is in Seeker's Gathering, that means Malleus has to go to Spelldrive, which also means Riddle will go to Seeker's Gathering by elimination

Since Riddle is in Seeker's Gathering and Cater can't be in Spelldrive due to participating in the practice, that means Trey will go to Spelldrive and Cater to Mystic Mortar

Lastly, since Floyd participated on the Spelldrive practice, it means the only character left for the fourth spot on Spelldrive is Kalim, and since Jade is in Mystic Mortar, that leaves Seeker's Gathering as the only option for Floyd

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Roster prediction:

Spelldrive -> Leona, Malleus, Trey, Kalim (twstNala and twstGoodFairies as opponents)

Mystic Mortar -> Vil, Idia, Jade, Cater (Neige and twstMegara)

Seeker's Gathering -> Riddle, Floyd, Rook, Silver (twstAlice)

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u/Maned_Wolf_444 — 2 months ago

Kalim Al-Asim

Twisted Wonderland is basically Descendants meets Harry Potter

Kalim is based on the sultan

>Housewarden of Scarabia. Born into vast wealth, he is a generous boy who always has a smile on his face. He's grown up with Jamil since a young age, and considers him a brother in all but blood.

u/Maned_Wolf_444 — 2 months ago
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MBTI vs CT part 8: ISFJ vs SiFe

For those who haven't seen my previous posts

https://www.reddit.com/r/mbti/comments/1qxjwjt/mbti_vs_ct_part_4_si_and_ni/

>Now I will analyze each CT type individually against its MBTI counterpart. To do that, I devised the following system:

>I went through the CT database one by one, comparing each person through their PDB profile. If the profile had 100 or more MBTI votes, both the person and their type, by majority vote, were registered. This is to avoid profiles with too few MBTI votes skewing the data. If any of the alternative types received 50% or more of the votes for the majority-voted type, it was also registered. This is to account for people with ambiguous typings.

In this post, we will go over SiFe individuals, which, in the context of CT, means they have a vultology that is Reactive, Fluid, Measured, and Suspended. Their MBTI equivalent would be ISFJs.

SiFes

100-votes threshold (100vt)

  • Abdel Fattah El-Sisi - ENFP/ISTJ
  • Bill Nye - ENTP
  • David Fincher - INTJ
  • Denis Villeneuve - INFJ/INFP
  • Karl Popper - ENTP/INTP
  • Leonard Cohen - INFJ
  • Neil Gaiman - INFP
  • Nelson Mandela - INFJ
  • Noam Chomsky - INFJ
  • Ridley Scott - INTP/ISTP
  • Rosa Parks - ISFJ
  • Terence McKenna - INFJ/ENTP/INTP
  • Werner Heisenberg - INTJ/ENTP

Statistics

This analysis has a similar problem to the one faced by the TiNe list. In that the sample size is way too small to be truly reliable as a dataset. Unfortunately, it is the best available at the moment, but to try to alleviate the issue of the limited sample, I also decided to look at people who met a 50-vote threshold (50vt):

  • Eric Weinstein - INTJ
  • John Bebee - ENTP
  • Keith Raniere - ENFJ/ENTP
  • Paul Simon - INFP
  • Philip Seymour Hoffman - ENFP/ENFJ
  • Tom Petty - ISFJ/ENFP
  • Umberto Eco - ENTP/ENFP

Now, to quickly go over some of the results.

Only 13 people under 100vt, and 20 people under 50vt. The low sample size is to be expected, as the celebrity sphere is overall heavily biased toward Extroverts, likely due to the inherent proactivity that accompanies extroversion. The top 7 most common celebrity types are all extroverted, while the bottom 7 rarest are all introverted, with SiFe being the 2nd rarest in the public sphere, second only to TiNe.

Under the 100vt system, the top 3 most common types were: INFJ (25%), ENTP (20%), and INTP (15%); under the 50vt system, the top 3 most common types were: ENTP (23%), INFJ (16%), ENFP (13%).

Analysis

The first thing that stands out is the prevalence of intuitive types. Under the 100vt system, the typings were distributed as follows: Sensors (15%), high-Ni users (35%), and high-Ne users (50%). Under the 50vt system, the distribution was as follows: Sensors (12%), high-Ni users (32%), and high-Ne users (56%). I suspect this pattern may be partly explained by an intuitive bias, potentially amplified by the differences between the two systems. Within the MBTI community, the association of intuition with traits such as creativity, intelligence, depth, and originality has long been controversial. A common criticism of many descriptions of types is that they portray intuitive preferences as inherently more desirable or sophisticated than sensing preferences. Rather than debating whether this criticism is justified, I want to focus on how such biases could have influenced the results presented here.

Looking at the list, one will notice quite a few academics/intellectuals. In CT, this is not particularly surprising. Because Pi-leads are primarily concerned with constructing and maintaining a stable worldview - an inner map of how the world works - and they want it to be as comprehensive as possible, so Pi-leads often accumulate vast volumes of knowledge over time, especially Si, which places a strong emphasis on historical context, leading Pi-leads to often become experts in many fields, which is why they tend to dominate academic fields. Then there are the creative figures on the list. In CT, creative fields are generally dominated by revisor types (MBTI's xxxPs). However, Pi-leads often possess a strong interest in understanding and constructing global narratives, and (especially if they have developed extroverted functions) they may be motivated to externalize their personal worldview. This can naturally lead them toward creative fields centered on narratives and storytelling. Generally speaking, writing (novels, plays, movies, TV shows) seems to be particularly favored by Pi-leads, but any medium where one can express their worldview through storytelling may be used, such as directing or music. Which brings us back to the subject of intuitive bias. If intuition is implicitly equated with creativity, intelligence, or scholarly achievement, some may be more likely to receive an intuitive typing regardless of whether intuition is actually their dominant preference under MBTI. Consequently, at least part of the apparent overrepresentation of intuitive types may reflect the influence of intuitive bias rather than a genuine difference in definitions.

Lastly as mentioned in several other posts, unlike in MBTI, where agreeableness is strongly correlated with Fe or Feeling in general, in CT, they are seen as largely separate. As a result, Directive SiFes (Directive meaning a Fe-Ti user with a guarded emotional attitude) are very likely to be typed as Thinkers in MBTI, especially if they are male. And speaking of gender, someone accustomed to MBTI may find this list odd in this regard. As in MBTI, ISFJ is considered the most common type among females, yet there is only one female in this list, who also (maybe not so) coincidentally is the only one typed ISFJ (under 100vt). This is actually expected, as in CT, SiFe is the 2nd most male-dominated type, second only to NiFe (to be clear, when I say "male-dominated" I'm referring to the proportion of males to females within SiFe; which isn't the same as SiFe being the second most common type for males, as it would heavily depend on how common each type is in and of itself).

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u/Maned_Wolf_444 — 2 months ago
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MBTI vs CT part 7: ESFJ vs FeSi

For those who haven't seen my previous posts

https://www.reddit.com/r/mbti/comments/1qkt6uq/mbti_vs_ct_part_1_fe_and_te/

>Now I will analyze each CT type individually against its MBTI counterpart. To do that, I devised the following system:

>I went through the CT database one by one, comparing each person through their PDB profile. If the profile had 100 or more MBTI votes, both the person and their type, by majority vote, were registered. This is to avoid profiles with too few MBTI votes skewing the data. If any of the alternative types received 50% or more of the votes for the majority-voted type, it was also registered. This is to account for people with ambiguous typings.

In this post, we will go over FeSi individuals, which, in the context of CT, means they have a vultology that is Proactive, Rigid, Measured, and Suspended. Their MBTI equivalent would be ESFJs.

FeSis

  • Alain de Botton - INFJ
  • Alex Jones - ENFP
  • Barack Obama - ENFJ/ENTP
  • Bernie Sanders - INTJ
  • Charlie Houpert - ENFJ/ENTP
  • Christoph Waltz - INTJ
  • Darren Aronofsky - INFJ
  • Dave Rubin - ESFJ/ENFJ
  • Devin Stone - ESTJ/ENTJ
  • Dolly Parton - ESFJ/ESFP
  • Dwayne Johnson - ESTP/ESFJ
  • Emily Blunt - ISTP
  • Emma Watson - ESTJ/ISFJ
  • Giancarlo Esposito - ENFJ
  • Gillian Anderson - ENTJ/INFJ
  • Heidi Klum - ESTJ
  • Jacinda Ardern - ENFJ
  • Jeff Cavaliere - ESTJ/INFJ
  • Joe Biden - ESFJ
  • Jon Bernthal - ESTP/ENTJ
  • Kate McKinnon - ENTP
  • Kyle Kulinski - ENTJ/ISTJ
  • Michio Kaku - ENFP
  • Rachel McAdams - ISFJ
  • Richard Ayoade - INTP
  • Simon Sinek - INFJ
  • Stephen King - INTP
  • Tai Lopez - ENTP/ENFP
  • Tilda Swinton - INFJ
  • Tom Cruise - ESTP/ISTP
  • Yuval Noah Harari - INTJ

Statistics

Total sample = 31 people

Top 3 most common types

  1. INFJ - 14% (6 people)
  2. ENFJ - 11% (5 people)
  3. ENTJ, ENTP, ESFJ, and ESTJ - 9% each (4 people each)

Analysis

The first thing to address is the prevalence of Ni, with xNFJs being the top 2 common types and making up 1/4 of typings, and high Ni types comprising 40% of typings. I believe the most likely explanation is that some aspects of CT's Fe are associated with Ni in MBTI. In CT, the Je functions are responsible for dealing with cause-and-effect relationships and, as such, tend to define things by what they do. When this is combined with Feeling (which is responsible for registering animacy), the result is that Fe tends to define things by their human-centric purpose. As a result, strong Fe users are often preoccupied with the idea of one's life purpose, calling, or destiny. Fe also sees human character as inherently malleable, our self as molded by our experiences and influences, and constantly changing with every social interaction, and since Je functions are driven to reorganize the world into more optimal states, Fe-leads often develop a focus on human-centric self-improvement, especially with the idea of overcoming one's limitations through hardwork and determination, which is why so many Fe-leads are life-coaches or educators of some sort. However, from an MBTI perspective, a focus on purpose is likely to be associated with Ni's search for deeper meaning, and a focus on self-improvement could be seen as an extension of Ni's future-focused visionarism, in contrast to Si's maintenance of the status quo and resistance to change.

Another point of note is the prevalence of ExTx typings, which account for 1/3 of all typings. As mentioned in several other posts, unlike in MBTI, where agreeableness is strongly correlated with Fe or Feeling in general, in CT, they are seen as largely separate. As a result, Directive FeSis (Directive meaning a Fe-Ti user with a guarded emotional attitude) are very likely to be typed as Thinkers in MBTI, especially the males. Another key difference is that in CT Fe is not inherently social harmony-focused. In CT, social harmony is associated with an unguarded emotional attitude that any type can have; meanwhile, Fe is focused on social organization. They tend to organize and execute in the social sphere with the same assertiveness, decisiveness, and goal orientation as one would expect from a Te user in more mechanical environments. While their solutions and goals (especially for unguarded individuals) can include social harmony, it is not the end-all, be-all.

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u/Maned_Wolf_444 — 3 months ago
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MBTI vs CT part 7: ESFJ vs FeSi

For those who haven't seen my previous posts

https://www.reddit.com/r/mbti/comments/1qkt6uq/mbti_vs_ct_part_1_fe_and_te/

>Now I will analyze each CT type individually against its MBTI counterpart. To do that, I devised the following system:

>I went through the CT database one by one, comparing each person through their PDB profile. If the profile had 100 or more MBTI votes, both the person and their type, by majority vote, were registered. This is to avoid profiles with too few MBTI votes skewing the data. If any of the alternative types received 50% or more of the votes for the majority-voted type, it was also registered. This is to account for people with ambiguous typings.

In this post, we will go over FeSi individuals, which, in the context of CT, means they have a vultology that is Proactive, Rigid, Measured, and Suspended. Their MBTI equivalent would be ESFJs.

FeSis

  • Alain de Botton - INFJ
  • Alex Jones - ENFP
  • Barack Obama - ENFJ/ENTP
  • Bernie Sanders - INTJ
  • Charlie Houpert - ENFJ/ENTP
  • Christoph Waltz - INTJ
  • Darren Aronofsky - INFJ
  • Dave Rubin - ESFJ/ENFJ
  • Devin Stone - ESTJ/ENTJ
  • Dolly Parton - ESFJ/ESFP
  • Dwayne Johnson - ESTP/ESFJ
  • Emily Blunt - ISTP
  • Emma Watson - ESTJ/ISFJ
  • Giancarlo Esposito - ENFJ
  • Gillian Anderson - ENTJ/INFJ
  • Heidi Klum - ESTJ
  • Jacinda Ardern - ENFJ
  • Jeff Cavaliere - ESTJ/INFJ
  • Joe Biden - ESFJ
  • Jon Bernthal - ESTP/ENTJ
  • Kate McKinnon - ENTP
  • Kyle Kulinski - ENTJ/ISTJ
  • Michio Kaku - ENFP
  • Rachel McAdams - ISFJ
  • Richard Ayoade - INTP
  • Simon Sinek - INFJ
  • Stephen King - INTP
  • Tai Lopez - ENTP/ENFP
  • Tilda Swinton - INFJ
  • Tom Cruise - ESTP/ISTP
  • Yuval Noah Harari - INTJ

Statistics

Total sample = 31 people

Top 3 most common types

  1. INFJ - 14% (6 people)
  2. ENFJ - 11% (5 people)
  3. ENTJ, ENTP, ESFJ, and ESTJ - 9% each (4 people each)

Analysis

The first thing to address is the prevalence of Ni, with xNFJs being the top 2 common types and making up 1/4 of typings, and high Ni types comprising 40% of typings. I believe the most likely explanation is that some aspects of CT's Fe are associated with Ni in MBTI. In CT, the Je functions are responsible for dealing with cause-and-effect relationships and, as such, tend to define things by what they do. When this is combined with Feeling (which is responsible for registering animacy), the result is that Fe tends to define things by their human-centric purpose. As a result, strong Fe users are often preoccupied with the idea of one's life purpose, calling, or destiny. Fe also sees human character as inherently malleable, our self as molded by our experiences and influences, and constantly changing with every social interaction, and since Je functions are driven to reorganize the world into more optimal states, Fe-leads often develop a focus on human-centric self-improvement, especially with the idea of overcoming one's limitations through hardwork and determination, which is why so many Fe-leads are life-coaches or educators of some sort. However, from an MBTI perspective, a focus on purpose is likely to be associated with Ni's search for deeper meaning, and a focus on self-improvement could be seen as an extension of Ni's future-focused visionarism, in contrast to Si's maintenance of the status quo and resistance to change.

Another point of note is the prevalence of ExTx typings, which account for 1/3 of all typings. As mentioned in several other posts, unlike in MBTI, where agreeableness is strongly correlated with Fe or Feeling in general, in CT, they are seen as largely separate. As a result, Directive FeSis (Directive meaning a Fe-Ti user with a guarded emotional attitude) are very likely to be typed as Thinkers in MBTI, especially the males. Another key difference is that in CT Fe is not inherently social harmony-focused. In CT, social harmony is associated with an unguarded emotional attitude that any type can have; meanwhile, Fe is focused on social organization. They tend to organize and execute in the social sphere with the same assertiveness, decisiveness, and goal orientation as one would expect from a Te user in more mechanical environments. While their solutions and goals (especially for unguarded individuals) can include social harmony, it is not the end-all, be-all.

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u/Maned_Wolf_444 — 3 months ago

Deuce Spade

Twisted Wonderland is basically Descendants meets Harry Potter

Deuce is based on the spade suit card soldiers

>An earnest young man who enrolled at Night Raven College with the singular aim of becoming a respectable mage. He tries as hard as he can in his schoolwork, but he can be slow on the uptake, and his grades suffer as a result.

u/Maned_Wolf_444 — 3 months ago
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Silver Vanrouge

Twisted Wonderland is basically Descendants meets Harry Potter

Silver is based on Aurora, with some elements of Phillip mixed in

>A cool and collected boy who guards Malleus like a knight. He is so low-key that his calm demeanor often crosses over into a state of visible drowsiness.

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MBTI vs CT part 6: INTP vs TiNe

For those who haven't seen my previous posts

https://www.reddit.com/r/mbti/comments/1qof5i9/mbti_vs_ct_part_2_ti_and_fi/

>Now I will analyze each CT type individually against its MBTI counterpart. To do that, I devised the following system:

>I went through the CT database one by one, comparing each person through their PDB profile. If the profile had 100 or more MBTI votes, both the person and their type, by majority vote, were registered. This is to avoid profiles with too few MBTI votes skewing the data. If any of the alternative types received 50% or more of the votes for the majority-voted type, it was also registered. This is to account for people with ambiguous typings.

In this post, we will go over TiNe individuals, which, in the context of CT, means they have a vultology that is Reactive, Rigid, Measured, and Suspended. Their MBTI equivalent would be INTPs.

TiNes

  • Alanis Morissette INFJ
  • Ashley Olsen INTJ
  • Hayao Miyazaki INFP
  • Mary-Kate Olsen INFP
  • Osama bin Laden INFJ
  • Rooney Mara INFJ/INTJ
  • Sam Altman INTJ/INTP

Statistics

Unlike the other posts, given how limited the sample size is, it would be kind of pointless to delineate the numbers, so instead, in this section, I will elaborate on WHY there were so few TiNe samples.

This result is a rather predictable consequence of needing to use well-known public figures as the main samples for this analysis. The celebrity sphere is overall heavily biased in favor of Extroverts, likely due to the inherent proactivity that comes with extroversion. The top 7 most common celebrity types are all extroverted, while the bottom 7 rarest are all introverted, and the rarest celebrity type of them all is TiNe. So yeah, I saw this coming. To provide more content for the following discussion, I'd like to note a couple of samples that didn't meet the 100-vote threshold for inclusion but did meet the 50-vote threshold: Agnes Obel and Chelsea Wolfe, both typed INFP on PDB.

Analysis

The first obvious thing to note is the absence of the "INTP nerd" archetype (or "shade," as they are referred to in CT). As I have stated in previous posts, in CT, general interest in STEM fields is more strongly correlated with Te, whereas the nerd shade, who in MBTI is almost synonymous with INTP, is instead associated with delta types (Te-Fi + Ne-Si). The only sample that somewhat fits the "nerd shade" is Sam Altman, who is also the only sample typed as INTP. From a CT perspective, Sam Altman is part of the Ti technocratic idealist shade. As the name implies, these are people who use technocratic futurism to realize their utopian ideals, while operating based on impersonally defined principles. Which brings us to our next point: why so many TiNe were typed as INxJs? This comes down to the difference between how the two systems view Ni and Ti. In MBTI, traits like idealism and perfectionism are generally associated with either Ni or iNtuition in general, whereas in CT, these traits are strongly correlated with Ji. In CT, Ni (and Si) are not responsible for defining how the future SHOULD be; rather, on its own, they only determine how the future will probably be according to patterns and trajectories mapped in their Pi worldview, with a focus on avoiding unstable or unpredictable outcomes that would lower the reliability of their inner map. In contrast, the visionary archetype, one who aims to bring forth a utopian future as defined by their private ideals, would be associated with Ti or Fi.

I would also like to discuss the Feeler typings. As mentioned in several other posts, unlike in MBTI, where agreeableness is strongly correlated with Fe or Feeling in general, in CT they are seen as largely separate. As a result, Adaptive TiNes (Adaptive meaning a Fe-Ti user with an unguarded emotional attitude) are very likely to be typed as Feelers in MBTI, especially the females. However, I believe a few other factors likely contributed to the mismatch in typings. In MBTI, a focus on identity and self-expression is strongly associated with Fi specifically, while in CT it is seen as a feature of Ji in general. This, I believe, is likely partially the reason behind the INFP-typed samples. Lastly, because of the correlation between Feeling and agreeableness in MBTI, Thinking types are often seen as cold, insensitive, or unemotional. In CT, however, it is much more complicated. In CT, the Fe-Ti types are referred to as having a Measured vultology, which is because their emotionality tends to be very controlled, with their affect either coming out deliberately through their Fe or not coming out at all with their Ti. As a result, Ti-leads often appear unflappable and stoic. However, Ti-leads (especially Adaptive females) can also often display a lot of polite emotion, being responsive to others' emotions, not out of raw emotionality but as a form of social courtesy. All of this together can explain the Feeling typings on samples.

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u/Maned_Wolf_444 — 3 months ago