u/Expensive_Cucumber58

Endurance athlete considering SoCal -> Seattle: how’s the cycling, running, outdoor life, and social adjustment?

I may be relocating from Southern California to the Seattle area for work, and I’m trying to get a feel for what the lifestyle transition is actually like beyond “rain vs sunshine” answers.

I love life in California. I have friends here, a good routine, and I spend a lot of my free time outdoors. I’m especially into:

  • road cycling and fast group rides
  • running and run clubs
  • hiking and big mountain days
  • skiing
  • generally being outside year-round

Washington is appealing because the mountain access seems incredible. Being closer to the Cascades, better skiing access, more alpine hiking, and not having to drive as far as I often do in California for serious mountains all sound amazing.

But I’m also nervous about what I’d be giving up.

Southern California has an incredible outdoor and endurance-sports culture, especially for cycling. I’m leaving behind great weather, a strong cycling scene, and a social life I already built. I’m wondering:

  • If you moved from CA/SoCal to Seattle or the Eastside, do you miss the social life and ease of making plans?
  • Was it harder to make friends in Seattle than you expected?
  • How is the cycling culture there, especially for someone who enjoys fast group rides and serious road cycling?
  • Are there good run clubs and an active running community?
  • How much better is the hiking, mountain, and skiing access in practice?
  • Does the weather make it harder to stay active year-round, or do people adapt pretty well?
  • Overall, did the move feel like a lifestyle upgrade, downgrade, or just a different tradeoff?

I know the move could open up a lot professionally, but I’m trying to understand what day-to-day life might feel like outside of work. Would love honest perspectives, especially from people who made a similar California → Washington move.

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u/Expensive_Cucumber58 — 6 days ago

Would you leave a job and life you genuinely like for a higher-paying opportunity with more career upside?

I’m trying to make a big career/life decision and would appreciate outside perspective.

I currently have a job I genuinely like. I’m a senior engineer in a specialized technical field, and I’ve been working in this general area for about 10 years. My compensation is already strong, my work-life balance is generally pretty good, and I’m well respected internally. People know me, appreciate my work, and there is a realistic chance I could be promoted into a higher-level role later this year.

I also have a life I genuinely enjoy outside of work. I have close friends here, hobbies that are important to me, and I live somewhere with great weather and excellent access to the outdoors. I’m not trying to escape a bad job or a bad life.

The dilemma is that I received an offer from Amazon Leo / Project Kuiper in Washington for a senior engineering role. The job itself is very compelling. It would still build directly on my core expertise, but apply it to space/satellite systems rather than the industry I’ve spent the last decade in. It would also give me somewhat broader scope, with a mix of hardware, software, and systems-level ownership.

Financially, the offer is a meaningful increase, but not an absurd one once I compare it against the upside of staying. In the near term, Amazon would likely pay me more. But if I get the promotion I’m aiming for at my current company, the gap could shrink to something like $20k–$30k, possibly even less if my company’s stock performs well. On the other hand, that promotion and future stock performance are not guaranteed.

The new role appeals to me because:

  • It would likely strengthen my résumé and future career options
  • It could open doors into aerospace, space systems, and new technical applications
  • I’ve spent about a decade in one domain, so applying my expertise in a new setting sounds exciting
  • The scope sounds a bit broader than what I do today
  • Washington itself is appealing to me; I love mountains and the outdoors, so I’m not viewing the location as a negative, just a major life change

What makes this difficult is that I am genuinely happy where I am. I have good relationships, internal momentum, and a life that works well for me. Leaving all of that behind feels risky.

I’m also aware that Amazon has a reputation for being more intense, and I’ve read a lot of negative things online about work-life balance and burnout. The hiring manager told me most people on the team work around 8-9 hours per day, which sounds manageable, but I still worry about giving up a known-good situation for something more uncertain.

So I’m stuck between:

  • staying in a respected, high-paying role I enjoy, with a possible promotion ahead
  • taking a higher-paying role with broader career upside and an exciting new domain, but more uncertainty and a major life move
  • ALSO I would be giving up unlimited PTO (I usually take between 4- 6 weeks a year). to Amazon where it's 19 days first year and then 24 days.
  • Also i feel like I am not learning anything new at the current role and just optimizing stuff I already know well.

For people who have made a similar decision:

  • Did you regret leaving a good situation for a better-on-paper opportunity?
  • How much weight would you give to career expansion versus staying somewhere you already thrive?
  • Would you prioritize the strong life and momentum you already have, or take the leap?

EDIT: I would be moving from CA!

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u/Expensive_Cucumber58 — 6 days ago

Amazon Leo offer vs staying at a job I like -> worth the risk?

I recently received an offer letter from Amazon Leo / Project Kuiper for a  L6 engineering role in Redmond. It is more of a systems engineering position that spans both hardware and software.

Financially, the offer is good. Compared with staying at my current job, I would likely make roughly $55k–$60k more in the first year, and depending on how things play out at my current company, probably $10k–$45k more in the second year as well. Moving from California to Washington also means avoiding roughly 10% California state income tax, though I hear sales tax is higher?

That said, the comparison is not perfectly clean. A lot of my current compensation comes from company stock, and the stock price is extremely volatile. If it stays weak, Amazon clearly wins. If it rebounds sharply and I get the promotion/refreshers I am hoping for, staying could become much more competitive or even better financially. There is no guarantee either way.

What is making this hard is that I have been reading a lot of negative things online about Amazon:

  • bad work-life balance
  • chaotic org culture
  • people saying Amazon wants employees to leave after 4 years once the initial compensation structure falls off
  • uncertainty around whether strong performers actually get meaningful RSU refreshers every year -> should I expect to get any significant refreshers every year?
  • and I have also read that Amazon Leo / Kuiper can be even more intense and stressful than a typical Amazon org

I asked the recruiter about Year 3 and Year 4 compensation continuity, and they said high performers are eligible for annual base increases and RSU refreshers, and that additional RSUs can be issued if the stock underperforms. But obviously that is not the same as a hard guarantee, so I would really value perspective from people who have seen how this works in practice.

The other side is that I am genuinely happy at my current job. There are stressful periods, but overall the work-life balance is pretty good. I am well known internally, people appreciate my work, and I have built a good life here with friends, hobbies, and a lot of time outdoors.

Leaving that is scary.

At the same time, the Amazon Leo role is very appealing:

  • it would probably be excellent for my résumé
  • it could open doors into aerospace, space systems, and other new applications
  • I have spent roughly a decade in the same technical field, so applying my expertise to a new domain sounds exciting
  • the scope seems somewhat larger than what I have today
  • and living in Washington sounds appealing because I love mountains and would not have to drive nearly as far as I do in California to get to serious mountain access

I am really conflicted. On paper, this feels like a career and compensation upgrade. Emotionally, it is hard to walk away from a job and a life that are already good.

For people who work at Amazon, Amazon Leo / Kuiper, or who have made a similar move:

  • How real is the 4-year compensation cliff?
  • Do high performers usually receive meaningful refreshers each year?
  • Is Amazon Leo really as intense as people say?
  • Would you take this move in my position?

EDIT: Forgot to say! I have unlimited PTO! So will be giving that for the much more limited Amazon PTO policy.... Only 19 days is gonna sting
Another major concerns is how common layoffs at Amazon are! I would be leaving a stable job this

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u/Expensive_Cucumber58 — 6 days ago