Your question: Ridiculous. You should drop all your terms, so you see it. Know what you’re like?

You need an example:

• Example:
  • Like your Dad. Your Father, says to you plainly. Plain as day speaks to you, says:

“Hey forehead. Go mow the lawn today. Have it done before I get back from work.”

• You? You ask this question. A similar to the one you have here: After your Dad walks out the front door, you’re on your smart phone with 50 of your friends, asking this question:

“Hey! Everyone! What is your opinion on Lawn mowing? Is it “Sola” one blade of grass or am I to mow all of them or not? I want answers backed up with passages that fully describe what a “lawnmower” is, please. Also some explanations of lawn furniture and duck poop, as ducks poop in the yard.”

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What’s wrong with this question? Simple. Everything. It was your Dad. Simply decreed it, for you to mow the lawn. It’s from who is in authority in your house. A house you live in with your Dad over you. All you gotta do then, is: 1) You just get up. 2) Do what he says. There’s no verifying with all your friends when you’re to look unto your Dad for what he says.

Now, apply this to scripture.

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“And I will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters,” saith the Lord Almighty” - Bible. 2 Corinthians 6:18

• It’s this same God said:

“Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. (Source: Bible. Isaiah 45:22)

• It’s the Word that proceeded out of God’s mouth. Said to everybody. Over the whole earth. Didn’t leave one person out. Applies then, to me, too. As it does to you. To just look unto him.
  • And who you look unto, you walk after, to walk in, setting your mind on who they are and what they say to do it; because it’s a decree from who said: "For all the earth is mine.” - God. (Exodus 19:5) also said, “All souls are mine.” - God. (Ezekiel 18:4)
    • Then, all it is, is a definition of what "save”means. Get a dictionary. Merriam & Webster 1. to set apart (someone or something) for future use.
• He's God. Able to save you, by decreed it publicly - he just does it himself. How difficult is this? It isn't - it's because you don't look to him for the answer.

You want a debate, where you settle Salvation - like you want your friends to settle what defines what "lawnmowing" means - you'll go do what your friends define it.

When your Dad already did.

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Then, in what was decreed for EVERYBODY over the whole earth to do, to just look unto him - those that do, he saves them.

Sets them apart for future use. So why do you need all this Sola Poop slappy crap turd junk. You don't. Won't equip you to look unto him, like he asked you already to do that, by a decree you are to do it.

When again: simple. All he decreed or spoke publicly for everybody to do, so he also told you to do is just look unto him. He’s God. He decreed it. Like your Dad told you to mow the lawn. To regard it. What he says. Don’t? Look at you. You’re off on Sola diaper slap-side-of-the-head. End up don’t do anything he says. The word's still out on mow the lawn, til your friends get back to you. It's a debate then. Junk.

Need more? It's simple. Not convinced? Also said this to you. Me included. Along with everybody. Over the whole earth, so it’s simple. Just do it. This, to hearken unto him and what he says:

“Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.

Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness.

Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.” - God. (Source: Bible. Isaiah 55:1–3)

By the Word that proceeds out of God’s mouth, decrees this to everybody over the whole earth to do this.

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People that do it:

• There’s a fruit to it. They got a whole pile of groceries out of his store. In fact, he repeats this in the Gospel of John 7:37-38

…If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.” - The Word of God. Jesus Christ.

The “fruit” of shopping at his store is, drink it, out of your belly flows rivers of living water, enough to water a whole desert of dried up, withered away people that don’t do anything he says and are lost because they didn’t do it.

To see, if they did, it’s the same drink to drink the word of God and live.

Take your question and throw it in the trash can. Just YOU go do what he says. That works. Go do it. See what happens. See him first. What you’re doing by your question will never accomplish looking unto him, looking unto everybody here on Reddit to answer it in a debate.

You’ll have all these opinions and never know what to do. Dad come home. Lawn not mowed. Mowed all the tires at the neighbor's house instead - when he already made himself a Father unto you, and already told you plainly what he wants you to do. Look unto him. Go do that.

Hearken diligently unto what he says. He's already said it. Go do that.

**//**I'm a believer in Jesus Christ. I fit that bill. My life was a total disaster. I didn't know what to do, but I knew enough to know only he could save me from my sins. This question flourishes, in many, many forms in dozens of Reddit "sub-reddits" - the predominant, actually blames the person, as if Jesus doesn't even want them, because, they're such a disaster - shouldn't talking about anything... and here they are. Believing on him, and talking about him every chance they get. So, this post champions out Jesus Christ, because God sent him to heal you and me - sinners - and deliver us from our disaster.//

So, here's an answer to a "generic" Reddit question - from a believer in Jesus Christ.

Here's the question again - How can a Christian tell others about Jesus when their own life is such a disaster?

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Answer:

Flip the question.

How can a person that: doesn't do anything Jesus says, when he told everybody over the whole earth, “follow me” over two dozen times, then that person live in tell everybody how good their life is, not doing anything he says, and paint all they're doing as anything but a disaster?

Basic Facts:

(about everybody. Not one person left out. Over the whole earth, to the very ends of it.)

“There is not a just man on earth that doeth good, and sinneth not.” (Bible. Ecclesiastes 7:20)

"There is NONE righteous; no, not one.. ..there is none that doeth good; no, not one. (Bible. Romans 3:10-12)

Pretty bleak picture. With NOBODY good. Not even one person.

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Where Jesus said, then gave just one for everybody like this, and everybody is - for everybody to have just one good to look unto, said:

“There is none good, but one, that is, God.” - Jesus Christ. (Bible. Matthew 19:17)

Says

“Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. (Bible. Isaiah 45:22)

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So, God spoke up. Determined, as God, to say it to a whole bunch of everybody where not one of them is good.

That he would accomplish, himself, Romans 4:5

- That people that just sinned and perverted that which was right, and it didn't profit them anything.. that Romans 4:5 says, if these people..and everybody is that, he, as God would to those that believe on him: " but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly," and who does this is this same great God, all by a work he did.

But people that don't regard him, never see it. They make up questions like this to slam people that actually do what God says, when they already determined they're not going to do it. So they blame people that do it, as if they're the problem, when they're the ones not doing what he told everybody to do, as God - and they won't do it.

When he's God and says:

"For all the earth is mine." - God. (Bible. Exodus 19:5)

They blame it on Christians for doing what he says, when it's his earth, so they just do what he says.

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To a whole bunch of everybody over the whole earth who are all condemned. Every single one of them, living in a disaster of their own making.

“For all have sinned.” - Romans 3:23 - There it is. Everybody all condemned to destruction. That's the disaster - - and God decreed, “The soul that sinneth, it shall die.” - God. Bible. Ezekiel 18:20.

Then Jesus, is the Word of God. Is God. Just as the Bible in John 1:1 says who he is. He's God speaking the word out of his mouth say in John 3:18 so, God decrees this: “He that believeth on him is not condemned but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God..”

So the one you talk about, Christians, in your question you pose, they believe on him. God does not condemn him, based on what God says, but you condemn them by your question.

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The one in my question, that's YOU.

God condemns, because you simply don't believe on him - - and that’s you in the second question. Even you say you are in no disaster. He is God. Builds up the and saves the Christian in your question.

But he is God - he says himself that, as God - he has also rejected YOU - lost in the second question. Already said it. “Because they regard not the works of the LORD, neither consider the operation of his hand, he shall destroy them and not build them up.” - Bible. Psalm 28:5.

Whoever like you - doesn't do anything he decrees everybody do - just rejects him - is in the second question. That's the one that is surely the one has a sure disaster that awaits them, irregardless your question.

Answer: You?

Asking the wrong one.

• And you’re asking the wrong question.
  • Go to the window. Look out. See that sun, where it is and all that sky and trees, and grass, and rivers. All those birds. All that everything. Who created it and placed the sun where it is, did it alone. By himself.

He says, so don’t ask “How do you” to me, because, says of me as he does of everybody. Over the whole earth:

“For there is not a just man on earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.” - Bible. Ecclesiastes 7:20

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So, I’d be one of those. Like everybody. Adam forward. Everybody included. Except one.

• Jesus said:
  • “There is NONE good, but one, that is, God.” - (Bible. Matthew 19:17). So, it makes it really simple for everybody. Over the whole earth. Nobody left out. So, I’m included.

Says to you. Me. Everyone. All the same, over the whole earth, this. These three things:

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One

“Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. (Bible. Isaiah 45:22

Says this, too:

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Two

“Come now, let us reason together,” saith the LORD, “though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be white as snow. Though they be red as crimson, they shall be as wool.”

• So, he:
  • God. that said: “Thus saith the Lord, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the Lord that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;” - God. (Bible. Isaiah 44:24).
    • So, the one that said “One” and “Two” - to just look unto him; the ONLY one good; where everybody else is “filthy; done abominable works” (Bible. Psalm 14:1–3) - There is none else. To “come now,” and “reason together” - not with:
    • “How do you” - which is asking other people, when he called you to reason together not with people but with him directly. The same one that made all that out your window, and formed you from your mother’s womb; that, he is GREATER than your sins.
  • And if you do this, with him. Look what he does with your sins you keep hiding or trying to go to church more, or since you stole the neighbor’s wife, or shoplifted your way through your entire career at work. That; everybody has sinned; but its YOUR sins that condemn you. So, it’s NOT in “How do you” asking other people; but it’s in stopping. Dead in your tracks and regard what HE SAYS.

Then, there’s THREE

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Three

“Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.

Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness.

Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.” - God. (Bible. Isaiah 55:1–3)

Look what he promises.

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You. Yes, you. With this question on Reddit: Includes everybody, too. So, I'm also in it. Can't escape or hide, or try to get out of it, or look over at you, as if you're supposed to do it, absolves me, when he says the same thing to me as he does you.

You’re called to:

• 1. Reason together. With him. Not with yourself, or other people; like, all you're doing is sluffing it off on people; but, you're to go to reason together with him. Together. Not alone; and:
• 2. Look unto him:
  • And, it’s impossible to look unto someone you don’t know, or can’t hear what they say is true, or who they are.
    • Look who he is, that’s speaking to you. It’s not me. It’s him.
• 3. To, you. Thirsty and hunger. To just come and shop at his store. Just take as much as you want, without money and without price.. His store. Go to it. To hearken diligently unto him and what he says. Not you and what you decree. You keep looking at you'll do the work.

These three things are decrees to do it. By God said to do it.

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You’ll know him. And by this, he says, by the word out of his mouth.

• “My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.” - Jesus Christ. John 10:27–28
  • You’ll know him. Same one did all that out your window, was crucified; took the sins of the whole world and God laid them on Jesus Christ. - you’ll regard what work God did vs. other people or your own anymore. You'll know him. Where now, in asking people for truth in “How do you”
• You’ll hear him say: “With men, this is impossible. But with God, all things are possible.” - Jesus Christ. (Bible. Matthew 19:26)

**//**Now, this question floats around on Reddit in many forms and in varied sub-reddits. Me? I believe the Bible is the Word of God. Has what he says in it, and I am a disciple of Jesus Christ. So, his word, operates or works effectively in me. I'm not alone. In fact, this post is for those also that just believe on him, and use their Bible to live by every word he says, out of his mouth. Just as he decreed EVERYBODY over the whole earth is to do, in the Bible. In Matthew 4:4.//

Here's the answer: From a Believer in Jesus Christ.

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• Well, when I had this question:
  • The first thing I did, was go pull down a dictionary I trusted. When it came where you could pull down any or all of them, on the internet; I changed my habit to pull all of them down; because, many words get their meanings perverted (ie., mean one thing in 1658AD, and something other different in 2026). Where they don’t mean what they originally meant. Shifted some what to add in other definitions that weren’t originally there.
    • So, I watch for those things. Even I have a dictionary definition. I even watch for them when words go from one language to another, to look for what's lost or never made it over in the translation from one language to another. Someone that speaks more than one language, learn to do this. Crucial. Is the point.
• So then after, I go to the “original” language, and look up the word there. Most of the time, I am satisfied, who originally translated and used that English word, as I am a native speaker of English; that, in the scripture, it’s a satisfactory or an accurate answer.
  • But, other times, I find, based on the Bible translation how lazy people are to just get a collective work done and skip arguments. Pick the most useless, worthless English word, or just translate the English into another English word, which takes the meaning even FURTHER away from what the original text says.
• I do this ONLY with the Bible or the Scripture. Why? I am seeking him. To hear him. That’s really the answer to this question or must include this and is in this answer.

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sanctification. <definition> [Source: Merriam & Webster] 1. to set apart [someone or something] to a sacred purpose or to religious [ a holy ] use [accurate; with original texts]

• Comes with a suffix.
  • ication. (meaning; the act, process, or result of making or doing something, often showing that a subject or object is changed into a specific state
• And
• It is God that said, in the Bible:
  • “I am Holy” God. (Bible. Leviticus 11:44). Also said, by the Word of God, so, it’s just God speaking, and Jesus Christ is the Messiah or the Word of God..[John 1:1] so he’s just God speaking, said of himself: “God is Spirit” - Jesus Christ. (Bible. John 4:24). So, God is a “Holy Spirit.”
    • That, Jesus said:
  • 1. John 16:13 “ Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: “
    • Said as well of his disciples - when he prayed for them:
  • 2. John 17:17 “Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.."

So, by what God speaks, by the word out of his mouth, his “disciples” are just what that word means. In the dictionary.

2. a pupil or student that sits with and is taught by a teacher.

 So, this “a disciple of Jesus Christ” - is used over 250 times in the New Testament; that in Acts 11:26, these “disciples” were first simply called a shortened word, “Christian” at Antioch. So, all a disciple of Jesus Christ is, is one that seeks him, to sit with and be taught by him.

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And God: he does it. HE: “sets them apart to a sacred (holy) purpose and use” and does this “process” himself, as scripture says “They shall all be taught of God” - Jesus Christ. (Bible John 6:45). So, it's God, reserves for himself, an EXCLUSIVE right to teach you. For himself to do. Same right, to himself, for everybody. Over the whole earth. But not everybody sits with and is taught by him.

When he says: “LOOK UNTO ME, AND BE YE SAVED ALL THE ENDS OF THE EARTH: FOR I AM GOD, THERE IS NONE ELSE.” - God. (Bible. Isaiah 45:22), his disciples that sit with him and are taught by him, hear this and look unto him. Follow him.

But those that dismiss him or take what he says, out to a field and simply bury it; then, go do anything they want to do, according to their own word, or what some other man or person says, don’t do anything he says. So, he’s not at work in them. But he is at work, building them up, those that follow him is the point.

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SUMMATION:

• sanctification. Is simply a “process” God does himself with a person, that sits with and is taught by him, and does this with TRUTH. His own word is truth. So, a “disciple” is “sanctified” by the Word of God. That is, God changes them into a specific state he wants in them, and he does it by the word he speaks TO THEM.
  • But he speaks to EVERYBODY over the whole earth. All the same. But people that don’t regard him; hear, but don’t perceive what he says. So they are not sanctified - because the process he does the “sanctification” by to make them holy as he is holy, is by the Word of God. Does not do that in those that don't regard him.

Do you see this? There's one word down. Let's go to the other now.

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justification. definition. [Merriam & Webster] 1.fair; conforming to fact or reason; proper; correct. 2. righteous. [accurate; with original texts]

• Comes with a suffix.
  • ication. (meaning; the act, process, or result of making or doing something, often showing that a subject or object is changed into a specific state

And

• It is an Apostle of Jesus Christ.
  • That is, someone he chose to be an Apostle. That is, it’s someone that was a “disciple” that sat with and was taught by him, and he, like in the Bible, in Matthew 28:18 said, to his disciples, who he named them Apostles, said:
    • “All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:”
    • So, one of these Jesus has told them to "Go and teach" so, he sent them out to teach, this Apostle of Jesus Christ, said in Romans 4:3–5
  • 1) For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.” - Romans 4:3–5
    • And that "him" of Romans 4:5 is God himself.

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So, again, it is God himself that, by a process he seems in himself, correct and righteous - - as God it is “reasonable, fair, conforms to what is proper or correct, to himself - as God, complies with and is done by a process he does himself:

- - In a person, because, they simply follow him and do what he decrees. Because, he made himself the "justifier" - all because he’s the “authority” over the whole earth. Says: "For all the earth is mine." - God. (Bible. Exodus 19:5) So, what he says, are decrees and the whole earth just obeys him at what he says.

But there are people that disobey him; that is, they "dismiss him as inadequate; faulty..what he says; they don't accept him as true; so, what he says is unacceptable. So, it's impossible for them to do what he says:

So, people that don’t do what he says, this “justification” process is not done in them. Even says in John 16:9, decrees that the Holy Spirit is “reproving the whole world of sin” - and the sin, he says is just not believe on him - - so, these are not reproved by it, because, they don’t regard him.

But people that do, he, through a “process” he does, as a result of him making or doing the work himself, as God, as the "justifier" himself - and he be at work in them, they are changed into a specific state of “justified” - even they, like everybody over the whole earth, of EVERYBODY the scripture says: Not one person left out of this:

“There is not a just man on earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.” - Bible. Ecclesiastes 7:20

“..filthy; done abominable works..” - Bible. Psalm 14:1–3

That’s about everybody. “For all have sinned” - Bible. Romans 3:23

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Romans 5:12 says: “Wherefore, as by one man [ADAM] sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:”

• Means EVERYBODY is “ungodly”
  • But by a work God did, as he is the "justifier" and does this himself - - Romans 4:5 says again… of those that hear him..they “accept as true” [believe] so they just naturally obey him, because it’s TRUE what he says, says of these, because they follow him; and regard the work of the LORD, and consider the operation of his hand - he's GOD; did it. They regard; that is, think careful to consider who he is. Says again in Romans 4:5 - - :
    • “but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness."
• And? He’s God. Sovereign over all the earth. To him, it’s a just and reasonable work. And he does it, as God, so it WORKS. Just IS. He “justifies” them himself by his work he already did in and by Jesus Christ.

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So, what God did, as a work he accomplished with sin, that every of all of us over the whole earth, we’re the ones did all the sins and are “ungodly” - he did a work with sin, that by that work: 1) FINISHED THE TRANSGRESSION 2) MADE AN END OF SIN 3) MADE RECONCILIATION FOR INIQUITY and 4) BROUGHT IN EVERLASTING RIGHTEOUSNESS (Daniel 9:24) and he annointed "The Most Holy" to do it. Is that you? Are you the "most holy?" Who has that title? Only one does. He's the most holy.

He did the work. 2 Corinthians 5:19 says: "To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself; not imputing their trespasses unto them;" and that "their" and "them" be every all of us.

That by this work God did, just as he did a work in creation. It's all his work in Genesis 1:1-31 and anyone can look out the window and see how marvelous that work is - he's God. He did a work himself with sin in Daniel 9:24-27. That, in him, it is “reasonable; correct; fair; conforms to what is proper or correct - because, to the ungodly he, as God, DID this work to EVERYBODY - that by he did it, in him, justifies them. Because, he's God and the justifier - and they just look unto him.

There you go.

justification. (GREEK) - is this word, δικαιοῦντα (dikaiounta) where like in Romans 3:26, God makes himself, as God, the justifier of the ungodly, because he got up, and DID a work with sin as he determined, as God, to do the work himself in Daniel 9:24–27.

He’s the “justifier” himself.

sanctification. (GREEK) - is this word, ἁγίασον (hagiason) where like in John 17:17 - God is also the one doing the process of this “sanctification” - by he is holy, he is ABLE, as God, to make even a liar, and murderer, rapist - locked up in a prison; took their sins off them and laid them on Jesus Christ.

He is God and he is GREATER than not only a liar’s sins or a murderer and pedophile’s or porno addict’s, or prostitute’s sins, but all their sins combined - his work is GREATER than the sins of the whole world, because he’s God, and did the work - that, based on that work he did toward us all, and we are all sinners. Took your sins off you, and laid them on Jesus Christ on the cross. Crucified. His blood shed for the remission of your sins. Your sins were purged in this work. Take a great big guess who hung the sun where it is; alone, by himself was in Christ on the cross..and PAID it himself as the payment. That means, you or I could never pay it.

Therefore, He as God: He is also the ἁγίασον (hagiason) the “sanctifier” that makes holy, as the only one holy - - through the process, as he determined what that process would be, would be a person just regards him, and hearkens unto the Word of God, he would do that process in them of both “sanctification” and “justification,”

and it’s true. He does it. Because he did it to me. A liar; thief; ridiculed people for sport; adulterer..lived in practicing it and couldn't get out of it condemned me to death. Did it to many that read this post.

By his Word, he did exactly, as God, what he said he would do, and did it in me..a sinner. Like he will do in you, all the same.

Answers the question.

**//**This question floats around on Reddit. Many are already closed and will not take further comment. This post is to believers in Jesus Christ that would ask this question.//

Answer:

This term, “elder” is used over four dozen times in the New Testament (Gospels, Acts, & Epistles/Revelation).

It can mean to refer to:

• The older or aged ones;
• These elders that affiliated with the Chief Priests, acted as “overseers” on the Sanhedrin (Governing Body over the Jews and the Temple in Jerusalem in the gospels).
  • Almost 2 dozen times, this term "elder" is in the Book of Acts and the Epistles/Revelation - refers to overseers in the churches in cities established where believers were, throughout all of Asia Minor and Jerusalem. In heaven in Revelation.
    • So, me? As a believer in Jesus Christ, I’ll curtail my answer to this last one (Book of Acts & Epistles. Revelation - a like meaning there for like with the Sanhedrin only heavenly - See "four and twenty elders" Revelation 4:4; Revelation 4:10-11 refer. Separate answer than here.)

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It’s also easier to see it in the “Original” Greek:

• Two Greek words:
  • 1. (πρεσβύτερος) presbyteros {translated as “elder” or older} [1 Timothy 5:1] (overseer) and
  • 2. ἐπίσκοπον episkopon/episkopos [1 Timothy 3:2, Titus 1:6–9, and 1 Peter 2:25 (bishop; elder (overseer).
    • Mean the same thing.

To see them in use, see them in these four verses out of 66 to 72 times used throughout the New Testament:

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In one of these four dozen instances - see it in Acts 14:23 says:

“And when they had ordained them **elders < - [**πρεσβυτέρους - presbyterous (plural)] in every church, and had prayed with fasting, they commended them to the Lord, on whom they believed.”

• 1 Timothy 5:1 says:
  • “Rebuke not an **elder < - [**Πρεσβυτέρῳ - presbyterou (singular)] but intreat him as a father; and the younger men as brethren;

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Roles - in the Church

• So, of these “presbyterous” (plural) elders: From them, select:
  • Go to 1 Timothy 3:2
    • “A bishop < - [ ἐπίσκοπον - episkopon] <overseer> then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;”
  • So, from amongst these “elders” or older believers, some “qualifications” as some could have more than one wife; be a Greek, and have 3 wives; and, these words, “vigilant” means their loins are girded about, looking for and unto the Second Coming of Jesus Christ; while “other” elders are looking forward to fishing all day, or drinking and gambling in a town square - and quick, like old people can be to “retort” and spew out a whole litany of language that’s not of “good behavior” because they feel entitled to be respected as older.
    • Not done yet.
  • Go to Titus 1:6–9 but see it embedded in Titus 1:5–14 so I’ll list the whole thing; but see it in Titus 1:6 - and all the scripture around it, supports and says the same thing, more expounded what is said in 1 Timothy 3:2

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Titus 1:5–14 says

5 For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting, and **ordain <annoint> (**καταστήσῃς - katasteses) - - - **elders < - [**πρεσβυτέρους - presbyrterous (plural)] in every city, as I had appointed <directed> < - [ διεταξάμην dietaxamen] thee:

6 If any [elder] be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly. - [debauchery 1. excessive indulgence in wild behavior, drunkeness, sexual immorality; given over to pleasures or insubordinate 2. rebellious; not submitted to the Lordship of Christ; rather; demand their own selfish or self-willed way as an older person often become or are without Christ - can’t be selected as a “episkopon” (Bishop or Overseer]

7 For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre;

8 But a lover of hospitality, a lover of good men, sober, just, holy, temperate;

9 Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.

10 For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision:

11 Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake.

12 One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, the Cretians are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies.

13 This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;

14 Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.

Hold to these things. For an answer to your question.

Answer:

Correct one, tiny minor thing in your question. It’s in the definition of only just one word, which I think you don’t have:

Christians.

• Definition: (Source: Bible.) 1. a disciple of Jesus Christ.
  • This word “disciple” is said about 270 times in the New Testament. In the Bible, in Acts 11:26 says: “And the disciples were first called Christians at Antioch”
• Then, all a “Christian” is, is simple.

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• It’s this “disciple” 1. a pupil or student that sits with and is taught by a teacher. 
• Like any child leave the house each morning with their books and homework, either alone or in a group or bused to school, “sits with and is taught by a teacher” - and all a “teacher” does, is:
  • Build a child up. Equip them. Taught “doctrine” as precept upon precept. Line upon line. Teach them a subject.

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And here you are. 

Outside the school. Stand far from it. Never go to school yourself.

Never sit with and taught - Thinking everything going on in that school - all a bunch of bunk. Asking yourself and anyone that will listen to you, from far off, outside school; viewing in on pupils or students sitting with and being built up by a teacher. In their classroom. Pondering:

• “Do all those pupils or students sitting with and being taught - think everything they’re being taught can be “debunked” as junk and it all should be questioned. They should just not go to school, and be like me, exploring alternate perspectives and not really taught anything.” 
  • yelling out from the sidewalk across the street from the school.
• Never go in yourself.

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And of these “two” groups:

• ONE: Is simply All those “pupils that just sit with and are being taught by a teacher” being built up. Advance and go to school next year, and learn more. Equipped.

Vs.

• TWO: You. People like you. With this question. It's a treasure. But, Not built up. And pupils and students are children. Just be a child, and not taught. and equate "not taught" is defined as a wonderful “alternate perspective” is really anything but be built up, and be destroyed by it.

“Because they regard not the works of the LORD, neither consider the operation of his hand, he shall destroy them, and not build them up” - Bible. Psalm 28:5

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- But a pupil or student that sits with and is taught by the Word of God is built up by their teacher who is Jesus Christ. And being built up by the teacher who is WITH THEM.. I know I don’t muse on anything much coming out of TWO.

Other than to think - they’re being destroyed by all these "alternate perspectives." Keep them from sitting in the classroom where they belong with Jesus Christ. And not built up nor taught by him.

I never felt threatened, when sitting with and being taught by Jesus Christ and any, quote, "debunked and questioned" - when that's by someone that never sits with him. Nor taught by him. From far outside and away from him. And he destroy them. The teacher do it, because of who he is. Is God. "For all the earth is mine." - God. (Exodus 19:5) - and they don't do anything he says - when he decrees they shall all be taught by him.

Just choose "an alternative perspective" that doesn't have anything he says in it. Able to destroy them. It's not me. He said it himself, he's going to do it. What are you doing!?!?!!

Here’s your question back. If I were you, I'd run from it. Go to school. Sit with and be taught by him. You'll be built up. He'd heal you, like a physician and deliver you from your destruction.

Again, here's your question floating around in a sea of people hold this question true - on Reddit in so many sub-reddits back.

This is probably the most or in the "Top Five" of inaccurate questions floating around I’ve seen to date on Reddit. Crops up in posts or retort replies put forth from within an atheist's heart, why they are no longer Christian, and Islam followers - out championing Islam to people, why they should leave Christianity and become a Muslim - and also including some supposed claim denominations of Christians - that still don't believe who he is, but claim they do.

Here's the response:

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God is referred to as "Father" or identified in a fatherly role over 15 times in the Old Testament.

• But in the New Testament: 140–165 times, with most concentrated said by Jesus in the Gospels.

And for the clown who created the question: All a clown is, is a "fool" in the Old and New Testament.

- A "fool" is mentioned over 135 times in the Old Testament, and 20 times in the New Testament. 13 times in the Gospels by Jesus Christ, and 7 times in the Epistles after it.

And all a "fool" is, is an "archaic" Middle English word, for a "Medieval Court Jester" - and all that was, was a "Mirrored Image of the King" at the King's Court. So, the Court Jester has a crown, but all the points pointed down. It was made of cloth vs. the King wore a gold one, studded with jewels. The King had a throne. The Court Jester was given none, but sat in other people's seats as if he was his own King over himself. Everytime the actual King decreed something out of the King's mouth, the Court Jester would belch or fart or simply quickly countermand it.

To let everybody see for themselves, what a fool is, not to do what the King says. Does not listen to the King. Any noble at the King's Court could hear both what the King said, and the Court Jester.

Given a choice. Just like everybody over the whole earth, God has come, spoken to us and given his Kingdom to everybody over the whole earth. Bequeathed it in Matthew 5:3.

But to see it, and enter into it, must be born again as Jesus said, in John Chapter 3:3-7 by the Word of God. Doesn't work by following the word of the Court Jester. Makes the King's word of none effect in a Noble. Turns the Noble into a Court Jester.

Do you see this?

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The Messiah:

• Is referred to as the “Son of God” “The Son of Man” - This "Son of Man" is said over 100 times in the Old Testament, but Son of God is referred specifically only once in Psalm 2:7. That God said unto his own Word, "Thou art my Son. This day have I begotten thee" and then repeats this - as God, only he says it, repeats it - - twice:
• The First time is in Matthew 3, after Jesus is baptised by John the Baptist - a voice from heaven, which is this same God says: "This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."
  • Then again, a Second Time this same Great God repeats it, in Matthew 17. With Peter, James, and John, God repeated saying this out of his own mout - on the Mount of Transfiguration - where Jesus is transfigured before them as "who he is." And they fall on their face as if dead. And this same great God says to and footprints over Peter while he's speaking, says to them "This is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased. Hear ye him."
  • What is said of Jesus Christ by God in Psalm 2:7 - is repeated in Hebrews 5:5.

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• This term “Messiah” Is a transliteration from Aramaic that appears only twice in the New Testament (John 1:41; 4:25), specifically identifying Jesus in those instances. But terms like "oh Son of David" - means the Messiah. Every Jew knows this.
  • As Jesus is the Christ. Jesus is the Messiah. *However, the original Greek, "Christ" which is the Messiah (Christos) holds the same meaning of "anointed one," is used 500+ times in the New Testament to refer to Jesus.
  • As the Messiah.

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• The “Definition” of the Messiah (Hebrew) - is simple. Defined as: 1. God. The same God that led Israel out of Egypt by many signs and wonders only God could do with Moses, would be a Son of David (2 Samuel 7). Will sit on the throne of King David in Jerusalem and rule the whole earth from there. Of his Kingdom and reign there shall be no end.
  • This is CONFIRMED by Isaiah 9:6–7

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Isaiah 9:6–7 will tell every Noble at the King's Court all over Reddit - - rightful to inherit the Kingdom - who Jesus is, and shall include all CLOWNS, that are fools, and just a mirrored image of the King - all thse Court Jesters there is “what” the Messiah shall be called: Even all the bells put on the end of each point of the Court Jester's crown - already long ago drowned all this out.

• Isaiah 9:6–7 says:
• “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.”
  • For the Court Jester with the question: Please read this above. Please clown yourself right clean out of your question with “who” or what the Messiah SHALL BE called in the above. That may be impossible. The Court Jester finds no way out of anything doing what the King says.
• When that role as King already is filled in the Court Jester with himself is the King.

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It’s God:

• That said:
  • 2 Corinthians 6:18 “And I will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.”
    • Said this. By he, as God, spoke this. So, it was said by the Word that proceeds out of God's mouth.
    • That would be the “Word of God.”
• So, when God said, “Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. (Isaiah 45:22). It's a decree by God to do this to everybody.
  • It’s this same God. Speaking. These are the words out of his mouth. That’s the Word of God. John 1:1 says: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”

   

• It's just God speaking.
• John 1:14 says, “…and the Word became flesh and dwelt among us;” is Jesus Christ.
  • Along with Psalm 107:20 says God: “He sent his Word and healed them, and delivered them from their destructions” - which is every all of us.
    • The Word of God, is Jesus Christ.

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It’s God:

• That said:
  • Leviticus 11:44, “I am Holy” - God. It was said by the Word of God, so it’s Just God speaking said:
  • John 4:24 “God is Spirit” - The Word of God. Jesus Christ. So, it’s just God speaking telling you that:
    • He is Holy and that he, the same God that told you he would be a Father unto you, also said, he is Spirit. So, he’s a Holy Spirit.
• He's just one God.

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And King Nebuchadnezzar said of him, in Daniel 4:35,

• “And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?”
• Says of him: Deuteronomy 6:4 “Hear O Israel, for the LORD your God is just one Lord”

Here’s your question back. Any Court Jester long ago gave up any thought, already thinks they can figure him out, and long ago, threw the King out - - lives in and without doing anything he says, but to any Noble hears the King speak see all the Court Jester is doing is just clowning themselves right clean out of him able to save you from your sins - which, a clown drowning in this question - is NOT looking unto anything he says, as God; rather, trying to hide in all these things, that, to a clown, thinks this gives them something to hide in as a defense - themselves are their own defense - - as to why they refuse to do anything he says.

It's done all before all the Nobles. Plainly. So, which will be the King for you? That's really the question.

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He’s God. Go outside. Look up. All that was done by the Word of God - and a Court Jester despises it; says it's his - - all by think it's a decree from a mealey mouthed, wishy washy question makes all what the King says inadequate; faulty, or unacceptable. Proof every Noble needs to reject him - when the King of Kings reigns and sent his Word to heal you, and deliver you from your destruction.

There will one day... ...be no more Court Jesters. All taken away or they repent and live.

The sooner any Court Jester just departs from this question, and just do what God says - and just follow after him, he’ll manifest himself to them..and to you. But as long as you don’t to anything he says, well, with your question back, given to you - go take a bath in it.

Court Jesters - it's one of the "Top 5" questions to bathe in.

Answer:

Not clear?

Well, ask it about something else then, if it’s not clear enough for you.

• Let’s say:
  • There’s Disney World. Over in Orlando, Florida in the USA. You got offered to be an “honorary ‘CAST MEMBER’ - that is, work at the park. Have a Ph.d in Animatronics. They have a week of repairs set aside for you to reprogram and do. Your family gets in FREE.
    • You? Let’s say you live in Denver, Colorado of the USA. Orlando Disney World? That’s about 1850 kilometers away. That’s about 1150 miles. With family: 35–40 hour drive by car. But, this is for your vacation? And your family's.
• You choose to go to Banff National Park, in Alberta, Canada instead. Spend a week there.
  • Why?
    • That’s in the OPPOSITE direction.
    • Banff? More exciting. Was only 1150 kilometers away. You chose it, because it’s easier. More convenient. It will be more “cooler” too. It’s only 17 hours by car. A 600 or 700 mile drive. So, you went there. Camped. Hiked. Swam. Kids loved it. Then after, drove home.
  • But the "work" Disney World set aside, was never accomplished. Didn't get done.

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So, ask your question again. Slightly different:

Is it possible to be a Disney World “Cast Member” which, that’s what they call their employees, but never worked there, even if called to the work; but not be a actual employee, because you never worked there, chose something else; but can you still call yourself a “Orlando, Floridonian” a Florida Disney World Employee, even if you never went there?

I mean, you went to Banff, in Calgary.

Way up in Canada. You did not go to Orlando, Florida. You never set foot in it. But, I guess if anyone asked you, you could claim you did. You could just spin weave a great big lie. How you bought airline tickets. Stayed in the Disney World Hotel. Then, went to Disney World and worked for a week in the Automatronics Department. Helped maintain all the robots. How the family all got all the perks for free. Did all the rides, how your kids went on them all; but,

• they never went there.
• So, you’ll have to spin all these great big whopper of lies in a way who you tell it, never verifies it with your wife or kids. You could even believe your own lies about it.

What is that? Be Just be a great, big lie then.

Now, overlay this onto your question.

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Is it possible to be a Christian

• Well? What’s a “Christian?”
  • In the New Testament, “Disciples of Jesus Christ” is mentioned over 250 times.
  • Then, in Acts 11:24, it says: “..and the disciples were first called ‘Christians’ at Antioch..”
  • So, all a Christian is, is a disciple of Jesus - and, a “disciple” is, in the dictionary is defined as 1. a student or pupil that 1) sits with; and 2) is taught by a teacher, who is Jesus Christ.
• And Jesus is the Christ, or Messiah.
• Who he SHALL be called as, whoever the Christ or Messiah is, Isaiah 9:6–7 says who that whoever that is, shall be called “The Mighty God..” “The Everlasting Father…”
  • Be annointed as the “Most Holy” in Daniel 9:24–27. And the ONLY one who is that, is God himself.

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• And Jesus said: “They shall ALL be taught of God.” - Bible. John 6:45. 
• Means then, God: Reserves to himself, an EXCLUSIVE right to teach you, everybody over the whole earth, to the very ends of it, and do this himself. Tells everybody over the whole earth to:

“Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. (Bible. Isaiah 45:22)

Be people then. Missing out in not look unto him.

So, this part: “Is it possible to be a ‘disciple of Jesus Christ?’ Yeah. It is. Just got to do what he says here. Look unto him. Like, actually go to Orlando, Florida and actually work for Disney World. Kids and wife get in free.

Likewise: Someone can't go there for you. Like, with him, as gid, You can’t do it, look unto him for me, nor I, you:

You gotta look unto him. Then, he’s the one does this “saving” or 1. to set apart (someone or something) for future use. Definition: “saved” in the dictionary - and he does it himself. So, if he doesn’t do it, doesn't save someone, it's because they don't look unto him.

Does not save them. Why? it’s to those that don’t do what he says. Don’t look unto him. He doesn’t save them, when he does the saving part himself. We do the “look unto him” part. Because, that's the part he asked everybody over the whole earth to do.

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You? Or just anybody. Whosoever it is of everybody over the whole earth - everybody is called to look unto him. He already called everybody to do it, all the same.

And this “look unto me” he says as God:

• That means, it’s a decree because he said, as God: “For all the earth is mine.” - God. (Bible. Exodus 19:5). So, that means, he’s the authority over all of it. And this applies then, to everybody. Because: He’s God and In command of it, the whole earth that everybody is on, to do things the way he decrees it.
  • So, if people don’t do it, it’s punitive.
• They didn’t do it.
  • Died in not do it.
  • He’s going to call them into account.
• To explain why none of his work is in them. Didn’t do it.
  • So, if people don’t look unto him. It’s because they choose to look unto someone or something; ANYTHING BUT HIM instead.
• Like called to go to Orlando, Florida - a pile of work to be done at Disney World; but went in the opposite direction instead.
  • None of the work is done.

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With God:

• Don't sit with him. Are not taught by him. Even he sent his word to heal you and deliver you from your destruction: Just slammed the door shut. Never received it. So, if they don’t sit with and are not taught by him, nothing he says is in them. They don’t “operate right” or are not his “workmanship” - because NONE of his work is done in them, that God does himself.

So, ask the question: Is it possible to be a Christian some other way than just sit with and be taught by by Jesus Christ?

YES OR NO?

God, by the Word he speaks. Out of his mouth, and the Word of God is Jesus Christ. It’s in none else.

“"Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." - Bible. Acts 4:12.

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but

• If People:
  • Never sit with him. Yet, still call themselves a Christian; many do. Does that mean then, even they drove to Banff, in Canada, the opposite direction. Swam. Went Camping. Fished all day. At Banff. In Canada: Does that mean they drove to Orlando, Florida in the USA?

I'm asking.

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• Does being in Banff, Canada equate to they drove to Disney World?
  • Equate to they worked as an Employee for a week, at this amusement part, so their kids got in the Disney World Amusement park for FREE? Did they?

I'm asking.

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• I’m asking the question. Whatever the answer to these questions, answers your question.

Here’s your question back. Some homework then.

If it’s still not clear? Ask the SECOND Part: This,

This: "but not a born again of the spirit" - part:

• When Jesus said: And he's the Messiah, so it's God decrees it.
  • in John 3:1–7

1 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:

2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.

3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

It’s done by the Spirit of God. Not by someone just claim some other way

“"Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." - Bible. Acts 4:12. Applies again.

Answer:

It’s pretty simple.

The day is approaching. Where this “Messiah” or “Christ” of Isaiah 9:6–7 shall be accomplished. Rule over the whole earth. This is approaching. Did you forget what that says? Says this:

“For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.” - Bible. Isaiah 9:6–7

The day is approaching to this. Of the increase of his government there shall be no end, and he shall not be replaced by another. The Messiah is Jesus Christ. Do you see it? I exhort you to set your mind on this. It's a great comfort as it is approaching. See this in Hebrews 10:25. It's integrally part of it; paramount to it. What it means is this, is the point.

And by this, see the other parts:

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Jesus said: “Abide in me” - the full of what he says is in John 15:4–5

“4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. 5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.”

And Jesus is the Word of God. It’s then, just the words that come out of God’s mouth. So God says or decrees this:

• “Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God” - Jesus Christ. (Matthew 4:4).

This is in effect over the whole earth. Applies to everybody. Not one person left out.

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• So, just be built up..it’s God that builds up people that just look unto him; regard him and what he says or decrees.
• But he does not build up those that don't.
  • In fact, he destroys them; because, they don't do anything he decrees everybody is to do, when he says "For all the earth is mine." God. (Exodus 19:5).
  • It's all his earth. Says, "For all souls are mine." - God. (Ezekiel 18:4). So, people that don't do what he says, he will call them in to give an account.
• It's a fiery judgment. Burn up all their works they built on his earth, without any of him in it. Comes with destruction is the point.
• So, to one: He builds up. They do what he says. To the other: They don't regard him. Live after their flesh to fulfill the lusts of it. See this point.

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Again, restated:

GOD: "They shall all be taught of God." - Jesus Christ. (Bible. John 6:45)

• Told everybody over the whole earth - decreed everybody is to do this. Look unto him (Isaiah 45:22). It’s God then: Reserving, for himself, as God, an EXCLUSIVE right, to himself, to teach you himself - by the word that comes out of his mouth.
  • So, people that don’t hearken unto him, don’t do anything he says. They don't "work well" or "operate right" - - already regard someone else’s word as true. So, they dismiss him as inadequate; faulty or as unacceptable.
• Means they reject him. When he, alone, by himself created all the earth and formed each of us from our mother's womb. Just not know him. Have our own imaginations and lusts we can walk after. So, his word is not operating in them; dead in trespasses and sins (Ephesians 2:1).

But a believer in Jesus - they do "operate" right. They "work good," because they are his workmanship because, he is at work in them, building them up. All by the word of God. Just as 2 Peter 1:4 says

"Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust."

So, there's a choice:

I'm a member of his body now. Where before, I only walked after what my own body of flesh craved or lusted after. By looking unto him, I walk after, to walk in, set my mind on things of his body. Different body then.

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In his body:

There is fellowship:

• It’s in 1 John 1:3–7
  • “3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ. 4 And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full. 5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. 6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: 7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.”
    • So then, it’s YOU; alone first. Where he, as God: Comes to you, says:

“Come now, let us reason together,” saith the LORD, “though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be white as snow. Though they be red as crimson, they shall be as wool.” - The Word of God. (Bible. Isaiah 1:18)

That by this: You. With him. He changes you. Does this himself. That you have “fellowship” with him. Just as 1 John 1:3–7 says, and John is an Apostle of Jesus Christ, made so by God and was with him and handled him in the flesh. His testimony is true. So, someone in the truth, I have fellowship with because the same Jesus Christ at work in me, is at work in John.

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So, finally - see this:

• I have a body. Of flesh. That God says in Genesis 6:13 "The end of all flesh has come up before me; I will destroy them with the earth.” - GOD.
  • So in flesh is sin, by Romans 5:12 passed onto me by Adam, and onto everybody after Adam - and everybody over the whole earth is from him. Romans 5:12 says:
• “Wherefore, as by one man [ADAM] sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:”
  • I have this in common in my body with everybody. Over the whole earth; but, it has sin and death in it. That is, if a sow to it, I reap destruction, because, I will, by the “deceitfulness of sin” accept that some girl in a skimpy bikini, I could have all of it - but it’s just my imagination taking someone who belongs to God, and use her to fulfill my lusts by it, breeds adultery and fornication.

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• But as a believer in Jesus Christ:
  • I am part of another body. A member of that body. Where in my flesh, I can serve my whole body.
    • That, scripture says of this: Ephesians 5:30 “For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.” That Jesus is the head of the body, and I am a member of his body. That if I “sow” to just abide in him, he places me in his body where he sees fit. I operate right.
• So, now add in Hebrews 10:25 with this: Embedded with the verses around it.

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Hebrews 10:16–27 says

16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;

17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.

18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.

19 Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,

20 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;

21 And having an high priest over the house of God;

22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.

23 Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;)

24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:

25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.

26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

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The point is:

- He’s made me, by his own word, built in me, builds me into his body as a member of it. Built up in truth. In him. To function within his body for eternity - eternal life - with him: to exhort others that also are part of his body.

To provoke one another: That, to sow after his body as a member of it, is eternal vs. sow after sin and fashion myself as I did before in my former lusts in my fleshly body where I felt I was God of it. To fulfill my desires or lusts.

And yes. That, I may fall into divers temptations, but to count it all joy - because I am a sinner - that, like the paralyzed man lay at the pool of Bethsaida for 38 years - longing for God to do a work, that God: he is able to wrought by a work he will do in me - that my sins are wrought in God - (John 3:21) not remedied by me love darkness or by fulfill the lusts of my flesh, brings death.

• That, the manner of some is not to assemble with other believers. When they are part of his body - it's fleshly to do that; when they were made to fellowship and to consider not only yourself anymore. As that was the manner in former times when I thought only to satisfy my own body. Walk after it’s lusts. But I am to walk in newness of life, by sit with and be taught by Jesus Christ.
• That in newness of life, I walk after, to look unto and set my mind on the word of God. Equipped. Built up in him.
  • And see others, he’s also at work in them. That when they, too, champion him out, he’s in the midst of us - makes me fall on my face, that he’s in me..but in them too, and is there in the midst of us.

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So, take Hebrews 10:25 to heart.

Assemble yourself regularly with other believers, in Christ Jesus - you have fellowship one with another; but outside of you; it's impossible. You don't. So it MUST be YOU seek him FIRST yourself. ...and you can also do that, too, just by glorify him here on Reddit, with your own posts of what he's been teaching you, or share him wherever you go.

..and there you go. Don't forsake assembling yourself together with other believers. You are part of them. What's in you, what he builds up in you is truth. Is true. Other believers can eat it up and glorify God by what he puts in you. Like operate as a member of his body.

You see, so, see it.

“Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus;”

- Source: Bible. New Testament. Hebrews 3:1

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Before I’d answer anything, I’d consider that whatever is in Hebrews 3:12–13, it's not written to to the sub-reddit "r"/atheists or "r"/ex-christians or to those walking after "STAR WARS - where people walk after and seek anything but him in rooms here on Reddit.

Why? Because Hebrews 3:11-12 doesn’t apply to people on Reddit, don't do anything he says; but DOES apply to those that do, even he’s called EVERYBODY over the whole earth to:

“LOOK UNTO ME, AND BE YE SAVED ALL THE ENDS OF THE EARTH: FOR I AM GOD, THERE IS NONE ELSE.” - God. - Bible. Isaiah 45:22

• People that look unto him:
• Hebrews 3:11-12 applies to them.
  • But people that dont:
  • Hebrews 3:11-12 does not apply to them.
• Simple.

So, which are you? This post is for those that this applies to in Hebrews 3:1

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Hebrews 3:11-12 is a culmination of what has been said from Hebrews 3:1 to Hebrews 3:10 of and about Jesus Christ;

To first,

- Contrast Jesus Christ, the Messiah with Moses. Then, with Moses as a servant, to the children of Israel in the Wilderness (See Bible. Old Testament. Book of Exodus) - <Hebrews 3:2–10> That God closes to say of them:

• “..They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways.” - God. Hebrews 3:10

That Hebrews 3:11–12 says by GOD continue to speak of this: But see it embedded in that which is said in Hebrews 3:11–17, what goes on and is said past it, to believers that opens this post in Hebrews 3:1. Because of the "deceitfulness" of sin. To today, to just hear his voice and harden not our hearts. To just regard him vs. sin.

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Hebrews 3:11–17 says

11 So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.)

12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.

13 But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.

14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;

15 While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.

16 For some, when they had heard, did provoke: howbeit not all that came out of Egypt by Moses.

17 But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcases fell in the wilderness?

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So, ask yourself, as this post is specific to believers in Jesus Christ: Not to those that don't.

• What does it mean to “believe” on someone? believe. 1. accept as true. [Source: Merriam & Webster dictionary. Web.]
  • That
    • Then, “What does it mean to “not” believe on someone?
  • Antonym: is simply to hear what someone says and 2. dismiss it as inadequate; faulty; or unacceptable. Reject it. OR - be "enticed" or deceived to walk after something else; led away by it. (KEY POINT)
• Because you, through “the deceitfulness of sin” will get a hard heart. And it can happen to ANY believer. That's the point.
• That, believers in Jesus Christ, by Hebrews 3:11-12, are exhorted to hold fast to hearing his voice today. Given today to be in it with him in a day he made. I mean, he's right here today. It's HIS DAY he made himself. Decided we can be in it.
  • Because who he is grieved by today as well, is those that don’t hear him; don’t do anything he says; long suffers them in the "r" / atheist room on Reddit.
• But those that hear him, like in the Bible Verse Commentary room - - he builds them up.
  • So, BE: Just like he did to you when you started looking unto him. Hebrews 3:11–12 is just an exhortation to, today, if you hear his voice, to hearken unto him and what he says.
• To be built up in him, and follow him. That sin is deceitful; because it's enticing. To lead you away from him.

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To ask him to equip you, to see this deceit 1. causing someone to accept as true or valid what is false or invalid (Source: Merriam & Webster dictionary. Web. Accessed: July 2026).

Because, sin actively practices in your flesh to deliberately cause you to accept as true, sin is true, when it’s false and invalid. And, if we accept sin true, then the word of God in us is made of no effect, because we treat sin is true, and him as false and invalid.

• So walk after, to walk in the Word of God. It’s peaceable. Easy to be entreated; so today. Just take today. It’s all you get. Walk after what he says. What he provides you. Walk in that instead.
  • Hebrews 3:11–12 means this. Embedded in Hebrews 3:1 to 17. Embedded in who Jesus is. Provided by God himself, sent to heal you and deliver you from destruction.

There you go.

Answer:

Evangelize - is just bring good news to someone.

- Ever ate in front of somebody?

• Go do that. Just eat.

You can do that by just abide in Jesus Christ. Somebody that eats gets full; content.

God decreed it. For everybody over the whole earth.

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“Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.

Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness.

Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.” - GOD.

Source: Bible. (Isaiah 55:1–3)

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So, tell me plainly.

How do I evangelize nominal Christians?

- nominal. 1. carries a connotation as “not numbered”

• (ie., “claim” <something> as "numbered with" something - but isn’t really numbered with them). That is, for “Christian” - when a “disciple of Jesus Christ” is listed over 250 times in the Bible: Just 1. a student or pupil that sits with and is taught by Jesus Christ
• Claim this, but never really sit with him. * And, “Christian” in Acts 11:26 says: “the disciples were first called Christians at Antioch”
• So, these are people that, even though God calls everybody to go shopping at his store. To just get fat off it, shopping as much as you want. To live by every word comes out of his mouth - So He says, not you. Repeats this of Isaiah 55:1–3

“If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.” - The Word of God. Jesus Christ. (Bible. John 7:37–38).

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So, people that just hearken unto him, not you or anything you’re doing trying poofy puff up people that are “nominal” means they may claim they go to his store, but never shop there..it's deliberately done. By them. - - already aren’t doing anything God says..how are you some “catalyist” to get somebody not doing anything God says deliberately choose something else to abide in - AND THEY KNOW IT - deliberately don’t go.

• They just don’t want to be hassled by you or anybody, but look like they do it. So, you won't bother them. He's called them to reason together with him. They keep deliberately closing the door or won't answer it when he comes knocking and he's sent by God - and already DOING this. If you're asking "How" from people on reddit - you're not "sent."

Let them alone. Best thing you can do is back up and punt. How you do that is - Just go back to? Yeah. What did he say for you to do? Yeah. You. Just go shop at his store. GO eat.

Crap. We’re back at the answer again. I’ll just repeat it.

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How do I evangelize nominal Christians?

- Ever ate in front of somebody?

• Go do that. Just eat. People that claim they're full and haven't eaten, have pride from a very hard heart. Simply WON'T eat. Let them alone. He says: "All souls are mine" - so they're his. Grasp this. His word is precious. Look for those that are truly hunger and thirst for it.
  • So you? Toward people that number themselves with you as if they are someone that sits with and are being taught by Jesus Christ - if they are, they are always excited to share with you some new thing God has shown them..where someone that is not sitting with him and being taught by him.. can't wait for you to leave, so they can talk about how to steal their best friend's boyfriend again after you're gone.
• Nothing you can do about it. So stop it.

What you can do is just abide in Jesus Christ. Somebody that eats gets full; content.

Go do that. What’s in Isaiah 55:1–3 - is for EVERYBODY to do it.

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People that have an empty shopping bag claiming it’s full see it. Most flee. Bubble broke. When someone full. Ate. Comes out of a store God told everybody to shop at and come unto him and drink - come out with a bag of groceries ..just fills up all the cars in the parking lot with groceries. Still go home with a full bag of groceries..everyplace they go..

Be pretty obvious, somebody’s been eating at his table. Best thing you can do, is just go do that.

//This question: Floats around on or all over Reddit, in various forms, in many sub-reddit rooms (ie., r / self, r / NoStupidQuestion, to r / offmychest, even over in r / changemyview and r / showerthoughts - in some varied form of the above, all about good people. That, there are people that are good.//

I am a believer in Jesus Christ. This is an answer to this question from a disciple of Jesus Christ

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ANSWER:

Well, you certainly can imagine up some thing, then judge people by the imaginative idea what good is you define what good is by what you dreamed up; then, ask people all over social media or here, on the Seventh most popular site globally on the worldwide web, by ask EVERYBODY over the whole earth, if they meet that definition.

Then it also defines what a filthy or a bad person is. Someone selfish, disrespectful/unkind and who hates children.

Then, somebody that already plus’d or thumb’d up your definition, gave you the, “Roger that, I am, [good]," reply back. However, that person, like a whole pile of everybody this morning on the way to work was heavy traffic. So they sped up & went thru the yellow/changed to red light to shave 4 minutes off the time to catch up, then.. ...and right after that, the school bus was stopping, and already put the flasher lights on, but to lose no further delay, ignore/passed the school bus, even the doors to the bus opened and students not looking started to walk across the road, even the bus had the “STOP” out, but chance it - - it was all for good.

But all the people that saw this, commuting in other cars have a different opinion of this person roger’d up to your question. To them, even they roger'd up about how good they are to you, to all these other drivers this morning that person is anything but good is the point.

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Now, I am a believer in Jesus Christ.

And the Bible says of him: "All power is given unto me in heaven and earth." Matthew 28:18. Means he's the "authority" over all the earth, that every all of us are on. It's HIS earth. So, these are decrees, he says, as the Word of God; just is God speaking, that says these things:

He said:

“There is none good, but one, that is, God.” (Bible. Matthew 19:17)

Boy that really quick cut EVERYBODY out.

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And that, too - - Matches already other scriptures say about every single person on the planet ever lived, from Adam up to today, forward, says: Never has been any other way than this, says:

“There is not a just man on earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.” - Bible. Ecclesiastes 7:20

“There is none righteous; no, not one…. ..there is none that doeth good; no, not one .”

Bible. Romans 3;10–12

“For all have sinned” - Romans 3;23

I don't think I am alone in believing what God says. About everybody that ever lived. Because he says he formed every body there is from their mother’s womb; alone. By himself (Isaiah 44:24)..so, he's a first hand witness of all of it. Just himself.

Said about everybody, that you, by a question you dreamed up in your imagination, decree otherwise than what he says - for you to look for good in, said they of every all of us are all “..filthy; done abominable works” - Bible. Psalm 14:1–3

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Gave everybody over the whole earth just one good to look unto, where there is none else, and said that to this same everybody, which is every all of us there is, to the very ends of the earth, said:

“Look unto me and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. - Bible. Isaiah 45:22

I decided to follow him. Believe him. Over you. Til you do what he says, you're just off idling time away, looking unto anybody..anything BUT him instead when there is none else.

Here's your question back.

"But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name." - Bible. John 20:31

• Help each other out = you or I make flesh our right arm of strength. That strength or life only has a point with connections to other people.
  • If I help you out, you’ll do the same to me. Look to that = good.

Doesn’t have any God in it.

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When he says: “For all the earth is mine” - God (Exodus 19:5) So, all this place, this whole earth, where we build houses in neighborhoods, one house right next to the other to encourage this “purpose” of “help each other out.”

• God CURSES it. Won’t do anything he says. Won’t draw near to him, nor hearken unto him. When all you have to life as the point of life is - - to do a simple purpose: look unto your neighbor' to provide it.
  • If he or she cant: Somebody, somewhere on Reddit or social media someplace or out on WebMD - just somebody ..anybody somewhere wrote it in a book. Just have to find it what people provide.

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When God says of this:

“Woe unto them that join house to house, that lay field to field, till there be no place, that they may be placed alone in the midst of the earth! In mine ears said the Lord of hosts, Of a truth many houses shall be desolate, even great and fair, without inhabitant.” - God. Bible. Isaiah 5:8–9

COMMENT: Boy, that’s about everybody over the whole earth, irregardless of nation, no matter which one it is, do this - as people. Do you see it? The Japanese do it. To make themselves alone as Japanese and say there's nothing better than be a Japanese - together: in the midst of the earth.

The Americans do it. To be placed alone in the midst of the earth. The Chinese, Russians, Azerbaijani, Kazakh, Mongol..Chukchi to Sakha all do the same thing over the whole earth, even all the Hindu’s all over India - to be placed alone in the midst of the earth.

In fact, there is so much of this - "all we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned each to his own way" - *Isaiah 53:6 ".. and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all." ...*what point people make of life: That: Just Being Japanese just IS THIS. Life. Being American - be #1.

• They GLORIFY people that play guitar or piano. Or form bands to sing. It's Godly. Good. Looked up to and worshipped. Hold concerts that almost a million people can go to - and 10s of millions tune into on the TV.

All that joyous celebration…just one big purpose to help each other out, smoke some dope or not if you don’t want to or open up a beer, and cook a 1/4 side of beef on a grill in the back of your pickup truck.

Set all the lawn furniture out. Why? the fireworks start at 8:00pm. People by the millions flock to see it.

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and all these people:

• That joined houses together, call them “neighborhoods” - go to these feasts and celebrations:

“And the harp, and the viol (violin), the tabret (tambourine), and pipe (flute), and wine, are in their feasts: but they regard not the work of the Lord, neither consider the operation of his hands.” (Bible. Isaiah 5:12)

when he says:

“Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. (Bible. Isaiah 45:22)

• Look unto the Indy 500 or a 4th of July or NFL Superbowl playoff, or just dream of all that convenience and ease of live in a “Los Angeles” (about 4 million people) or “Tokyo” (four times that amount 14–16 million people).
  • Where the point of life is everybody helps each other. Without any God in it.

I didn’t curse it. He did.

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But those that look unto him, hear him. Do what he says..He builds them up.

So, look at the choice you got:

You or I - so anybody over the whole earth can:

• Look unto people:
  • As if all life is, is people help each other out - is the point - is walk after, to glorify and make good a God. How? All by make people good to look unto.
    • When God says: “There is not a just man on earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.” - Ecclesiastes 7:20
    • And you or I we can choose or simply firm up and elect it - good is God, where everybody can be good - to put all your or my hope in that.
  • As if there is none else. Like the message of “Lord of the Rings” (J.R.R. Tolkien - movies) or "Harry Potter" where over a billion people saw "Lord of the Rings" and over 2 billion "Harry Potter" - where “good” is now God, and with “good as God, everybody can be good.
    • Just by look unto people, as good, then, “good” is God, with people - that has no God in it.

OR

• Do What God says:
  • Just as he decreed everybody do it. Leaves not one person out. Over the whole earth, to the very ends of it, not willing any perish, but all come to repentance.
    • When People say: The answer is in PEOPLE. It’s in none else but being friends with the neighbors. That’s what life is.
    • And you or I we can choose or simply firm up and elect it - to leave off..see people just all blind leading the blind not doing anything he says - to put all your or my hope in just look unto him. Because, he said, there is none else, and just do what he says.
  • Where like Jesus said, as the Word of God said: “There is NONE good, but one, that is, God” (Bible. Matthew 19:17)
    • Then, God is good; and it’s really simple then.
  • When there is none but him good. And he do a work..a good work, that if I just look unto him..when my sins I did..already condemn me. That, because of a work he did..decree it. “He that believeth on me is not condemned..” - Jesus Christ. John 3:18.
  • Applies to everybody over the whole earth.

Which one do you think I chose? Over you or your question? And today if you hear his voice and harden not your heart, you can leave off..and just look unto him.

//This question has several forms on Reddit, asked globally and is in varied forms on several sub-reddits. The answers, don't really answer what's said in Romans 9:15 to 18, so to equip a "Christian" and all a "Christian" is, is they have a Bible - what's in it, to follow as a "disciple of Jesus Christ."

That term "a disciple of Jesus Christ" is used over 240 times in the New Testament, in the Bible. Where "Christian" as disciples were first called "Christians at Antioch," (Acts 11:26). All a "disciple" is defined as is just a pupil or student that sits with and is taught by a teacher. And Jesus decreed it: "They shall all be taught of God" - Bible. John 6:45.

Means God, reserves, for himself, an EXCLUSIVE right to teach you himself, by the Word that proceeds out of his mouth. That God sent his word to heal you and deliver you from your destruction (Psalm 107:20) and that applies to EVERYBODY over the whole earth. But not everybody sits with and is taught by him. That's a "KEY POINT" to this question.//

When he as God wants everybody to do it, there are people that simply won't do it. That's the point.

So, what's he saying in Romans 9:15?

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Let me just state it:

I'm a believer in Jesus Christ. So me, I'm writing to you, in Bible Verse Commentary to comment on this Romans 9:15 to 18 - - as a fellow believer in him, with a Bible. I'm asking you to consider this post.

Probably best to first state it, what Romans 9:15 to 18 says, embedded in Romans 9:15-21. That says:

^(15) For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.

^(16) So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.

^(17) For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.

^(18) Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.

^(19) Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?

^(20) Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?

^(21) Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

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Consider these passages: About who both you and I believe on: On "who" is he, as God, showing mercy?

Yeah. EVERYBODY. Over the whole earth. Not one person left out. See it in: The Bible:

ONE:

- 2 Peter 3:9 "...The Lord is not slack concerning his promises... ...but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance."

Comment: That's EVERYBODY then. Over the whole earth. He's God, and showing mercy onto EVERYBODY by say this. Just repeated from Romans 9:16. Has mercy on EVERYBODY.

TWO:

- Isaiah 45:22 "LOOK UNTO ME, AND BE YE SAVED ALL THE ENDS OF THE EARTH: FOR I AM GOD, THERE IS NONE ELSE." - God

Comment: There he is again! That's a call, to EVERYBODY over the whole earth, to the very ends of it. The ONLY thing I can liken it unto, is me as a kid with my mom and my brothers - just us all playing in this great big field of a backyard as a kid - and, at or around dinner time, we all knew it. Our mom: out the back door, my mom used to clang this great, big bell call every all of us six kids in, "Supper's ready!" - it was a "call", to stop playing, come inside, wash your hands and sit at the dinner table.

Time to eat. There was everyday in Summer, the same thing: But one time, me and my brother didn't do that; we kept playing and left, as if we never heard it. It was PUNITIVE. Disobeyed mom.

The point is, he's God and he's called everybody to do this; in the Bible of Isaiah 45:22, didn't leave one person out over the whole earth, is the point. It's his mercy - Not willing any perish, but all just turn around and repent, and look unto him.

THREE:

- 1 John 2:2 "..And he is the propitiation for our sins, and not for our sins only but for the sins of the whole world."

That's:

Everybody, over the whole, entire earth - to the very ends of it, says of us all; that, showing mercy, to everybody over the whole earth, as God, and every all of us in this condition:

"For all have sinned" - Bible. Romans 3:23

I see it. You do, too, because you follow him. So, mercy is shown to EVERYBODY by God, so it's not him. It's people.

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So, God got up. Determined he, as God, he would do a work with sin that every all of us already all DID against him.

To show mercy to ALL OF US. Calls EVERYBODY over the whole earth, to just look unto him. Doesn't matter who it is, because he called EVERYBODY over the whole earth to do it. SO, whosoever of everybody does, he simply "sets them apart for future use" (what "save" means, in the Oxford dictionary.)

He does not say it, as God, then simply not do it. Does not change his mind.

So, as God, who he will have mercy on is he decided to have mercy on is EVERYBODY. Over the whole entire earth, to the very ends of it. Not one person left out. Not willing any perish, but all come to repentance. That's just who he is.

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So don't get wrapped up around the axle about Romans 9:15 is the point. He's God, and shown mercy to everybody.

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The point is, to see even God has decreed everybody look unto him, like me and my brother with my mom..when we were kids in grade school (1960s) - we chose one time, NOT. TO. DO. IT.

Ran away. Yeah. We did. Hopped the fence. Ran away, because not don't playing and Still daylight = still time to play. Where our 4 other siblings, obeyed Mom. Stopped playing instantly and just went into the house. Did exactly as she said. Me and my brother were called, BUT WE DID NOT SHOW UP.

When we came back, we were sent to our room. Punitive. We didn't eat that night. And "Jungle Book" was the kid's movie highlight on TV that night. Missed that, too. Hungry. Prevented by authority in our house - Couldn't see the movie we looked forward to for a month. PUNITIVE.

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SO:

It's the SAME of this great, big "everybody" of every all of us, there's atheists - hate him. They're not alone, either, so don't single them out. Part of us, but don't do anything he says.

It's - - Just what that word, "hate" means. 1. unwilling to BE or DO (something) And, that "something" is just do what he says. (Collin's dictionary. Definition of "hate.") Just won't do it. Won't look unto him. It's PUNITIVE.

That means, God is going to call them into account to explain, why they didn't do anything he said, when it's HIS earth - - and it's PUNITIVE, because he's God, and decreed it, and he's the authority over the earth, and they didn't do it.

Point is? Yeah. Many others, don't do what he decrees - everybody look unto him. To come now, reason together with him in Isaiah 1:18. Won't do that, either. And because they don't, he doesn't save them.

Like my mom didn't save dinner for me and my brother, either. Even what we had was taken away from me and my brother. Stripped and sent away empty handed. No movie. No dinner.

We were called to eat dinner, like everybody in my family was. No one special if everybody is called, all the same; but, to reject it. Didn't go, when who is the "authority" over me and my brother was our mom is the point.

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He's God and already told them, as God, said "For all the earth is mine." - God. (Exodus 19:5). Already said it, "All souls are mine." - God. (Ezekiel 18:4). So, he's in command or the authority over all the earth - decrees just how it shall be in his earth, over all things as God, so not doing what he says, is PUNITIVE.

And not saving someone, is because they CHOSE not to do it is the point.

He's just. Righteous. His judgments are true. Like my mom was. No different. The "unjust" was me. So, don't focus on my mom. She PROVIDED the dinner. Regard HER works as good. It was then mine, and also my brother. That's where the fault is. We had a hard heart - we just looked at each other and did not do what she decreed to do, is the point.

So, look for THAT point about people, in scripture. Apply it Romans 9:15 to 18, in Romans 9:15-21 to "This people" like me, that do this, like I did with my mom.

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So, quickly, look at this last example - to quickly close this post. It's already too long. It's simple.

- Look at Pharaoh in Egypt (See Genesis & Exodus) - Old Testament - - with Moses.

"Israel also came into Egypt; and Jacob sojourned in the land of Ham.”  - Bible. Psalm 105:23

So, the Bible says, part of the "Land of Ham" is Egypt.

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So, ask it: Who is Pharaoh?

Some people never stop to see it. Yeah. Egypt is from Ham, just as the Bible says. Ham, in Genesis 9, is the 2nd son of Noah, born before the flood. After the flood, Ham has four children: 1) Cush 2) Mizraim 3) Phut, and 4) Canaan. (Genesis 10:6)

They all depart from the LORD. You can go thru every one of these four sons, and their prodigy listed, and examine their prodigy. They too, ALL departed from God, and made up their own gods to worship. All listed.

Example?

Take Mizraim then. In Arabic, "Mizraim" is "Muzir." English, is "Egypt."

That Mizraim, after the flood and after the earth is divided in Genesis 11, departs and spreads out, and builds Egypt. They put over themselves a Pharaoh. Guess what?

Do they worship God?

Nope. They don't. They left him. Who the Egyptians worship as their God is Pharoah.

Someone in Egypt? Not worship Pharaoh as God? They were put to death. It was, in Egypt "an assault on Ma'at (the cosmic order). He could also promote people to high office.

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So, Pharaoh, both to Pharaoh himself and to the Egyptians, Egypt's God is Pharaoh. End of discussion. Stop. And just eat and digest this.

It's idolatry.

Pharoah: He's a man. Like you or me, but to the Egyptians they worship him as God Even make Priests to Pharaoh to worship him, as God, when he's not.

And GOD? He's already called everybody, over the whole earth, as God, even said it to everybody, Adam forward, to just look unto him as God, they won't. They look like me with my mom.

Any bells going off in your head yet?

They're being like me with my mom, and set up something else to do, like even the dinner bell already went off. They won't go. Won't eat. Worship something else as God..and the REAL God is about to show up.

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The point is:

For Both Pharoah and the Egyptians, and again, every single one of Ham and his kids all go off and do this, even Mizraim's kid's kids do it. It's also with Casluhim, make up the God, Dagon. The Half man, the head of a man with a torso of a man, and lower body of a fish, like a mermaid, half fish god of the Philistines, because Casluhim, off-spring of Mizraim, is the father of the Philistines after the flood. Like Egypt, the Philistines they do it, too. Departed from God. It's punitive. But back with the Egyptians:

Their God is Pharaoh - believe he is God. So, they make up a religion. That Pharaoh practices or performs these "annual" rites or ceremonies, recorded in Exodus, by blessing the waters, (Nile River), and by this, all the Egyptians believe they've done right, and this "ma'at" or cosmic order of nature is appeased.

The Nile will over spill it's banks. With nutrients, richly fertilize their fields. Pharaoh will be praised as if he did this, for a rich harvest that year. If Pharaoh does not perform this rite, they believe all kinds of evil will fall on Egypt. 100s of years, Egypt has lived like this.

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So, by the time of Moses, over 500 years or more of Pharaohs have been worshipped as God over Egypt.

So, how did God give Pharaoh a hard heart?

Because, Paul says in Romans 9:15-21, God hardens whoever he wants to harden. Hardens their heart. "How does he do that?" - Yeah. Just SHOW UP.

- Man, that's really simple. JUST SHOW UP. AS GOD. BE THE REAL GOD AND SHOW UP.

To people that look unto anything BUT him as God, and he show up. Have a hard heart.

Because they "chose" 1. to pick from two or more options the most convenient [Source: Cambridge dictionary. Web.] ...and the most "convenient" to the Egyptians, is it's easier to worship Pharaoh as God, so they CHOSE it. Over God.

Put all this work and effort toward that; accept it as true, so when the REAL GOD shows up, their heart is hard against him.

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Maybe you need an example:

- Take, over in America: "Superman" - it's fictitious; a made up SUPER HERO; but, with it you can see it. Imagine some guy, has a Superman really good $350.00 Superman costume. Lives in your town. Man, does it ever look real. Cape. Shoes. Everything. So, he advertises in the newspaper. He's available to host parties. As Superman.

...and show up in his Superman costume. Little kids just "worship" him as Superman. He makes claims at parties as Superman: he's called on or invited to even MORE parties after as a legitimate Superman - - Why? Because all the little kids BELIEVE he's Superman.

SO:

How could this bubble get burst? Yeah. The real Superman show up.

Give this fakey guy in a costume a hard heart. Just by show up and actually BE Superman.

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The REAL SUPERMAN show up.

Actually really fly in. Picks up a car in the drive way and throws it a whole block away in front of all these kids. This "Other" guy dressed in a suit, has no real power - is shown up as a phoney. A charlatan. Fake. Kids instantly don't believe in him anymore. Is NOT Superman.

Look at all that livelihood or money this guy did all this work, pretending to be Superman is now lost. Nobody will call on him anymore, as Superman, because he's NOT. All because the REAL Superman showed up.

Just like now, put this over on Pharaoh; that, in Exodus, go read it again. He's worshipped as God. Every time Pharaoh is performing one of these rites, as all Egypt claims he's the God of Egypt, is Pharaoh - and worshipped as God, Moses and God with him, shows up.

And Moses obeys God, God turns the Nile River to blood. Blood rots and iron in blood, destroys all their fields and crops. So what a Pharaoh did, as God - destroyed Egypt by pretend he is God, when he isn't. And all the real God had to do, is just SHOW UP, and be God.

That's all he did. It's people then. Don't do anything he says, and champion that out, even harden their heart to him, because he shows up. God doesn't show any mercy to them. He destroys them. They don't do anything he says is the point.

And GOD? He's not being worshipped, as God, in Egypt. When it's his earth, and he's the Prince of the nation of Egypt, to inherit it and rule it. They blaspheme him.

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So, don't make it rocket science. Pharaoh is not God, but Pharaoh believes the claims the Egyptians make of him. Says to Moses in Exodus 5:2

And Pharaoh said, "Who is the LORD, that I should obey his voice to let Israel go? I know not the LORD, neither will I let Israel go."

Pharaoh says it, as a God, when he's not. Hard heart. And God allows it, to show himself strong that he is God, and Pharaoh is not. Now, compare this Pharaoh destroyed, with Moses to the Pharaoh - - 400 years before with Joseph.

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And? Just look at all that mercy God showered on Egypt for 400 years from that time. Go back and read further, when Joseph was in Egypt with another Pharaoh, that when God showed up, that Pharaoh fell on his face, and obeyed God. Hearkened unto him, in a famine to save Egypt, humbled himself - - because he believed God was God. Scripture says what was coming and Pharaoh warned of it, was a "famine over the whole earth" - Genesis 41:56.

That, by Pharaoh hearken unto Joseph, hearkened unto God in it, and the whole earth got fed by Egypt. By Joseph, and God with him, and Pharaoh put Joseph over all of Egypt, even over his own house. That, for 400 years, Pharaohs after this Pharaoh of Egypt, also in their reign - regarded Joseph, til the day a Pharaoh raised up, that no longer regarded Joseph.

No longer regarded God as God anymore in Egypt is the point.

That, all the plagues Egypt was spared 400 years earlier, with Joseph: Now, with a Pharaoh that knows not Joseph, a plague over the whole earth by a famine, by this Pharaoh with Moses, all those plagues of a famine 400 years before that were spared Egypt, because of God's mercy, are rained down ONLY on Egypt, with Moses.

Because he's God and it puts me on my face.

Because they choose NOT to regard God. That's the point. And Pharaoh has a hard heart, because he still wants God to leave him alone, and leave Egypt - then he fights against God, because he already SHOWED UP. ...and there's no mercy in it. Because he won't fall on his face, and worship God as God.

And God shows no mercy to people that do this is the point. Won't. He's God.

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It's HIS EARTH. And people, by their own imaginations, that won't regard him or do anything he says. He destroys them. He can and he says it plainly. He's able to. Will. Does. Has done it before. Will do it again. It's his earth.

Simple. Just do what he says. Romans 9:15-21 is simple. Instead of examine God, put Pharaoh under a microscope. Put people, like me, with my mom - put me under a microscope. That by authority called, just won't do anything he says - that's where the problem is. They have a hard heart, and how God hardens it, is he just shows up.

All I had to do was simple. Same all you have to do. Go do what he says. Look unto him. It works good. Makes you and me operate right. Do it for everybody. That's it.

This question is in many varied forms on Reddit concerning John 16:12-14.

This post is from a believer in Jesus Christ. To see the answer.

It's quite simple. They are exceedingly sorrowful; in a few short hours after John 16:12-14, they will all flee and scatter, and Jesus will be crucified. They can't bear this. Doesn't make any sense. When they have followed Jesus because they believe he is the Messiah or Christ, and what they believe or have been taught that is.

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“From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.”

- Source: Bible. New Testament. Matthew 16:21

This is to believers in Jesus Christ. Those that don’t any answer really does not benefit or apply to them; can’t use it for anything.

Maybe the first question, to a believer in Jesus Christ that may have this question is to take the opening scripture of Matthew 16:21 and ask, “How long is it from ‘that time forth’ of Matthew 16:21 unto when Jesus says John 16:12–14?”

You may not find an actual number of days; but, you can find a timeline; it's at the end of his 3 year ministry on earth: that after Jesus, for a second time, has fed over 4000 people, afterward, on their journey back north to Capernaum, Jesus stops his disciples after they’re arguing amongst themselves who of them would be greatest in the Kingdom of Heaven.

That, during this conversation, Jesus asks them “who do the people say that I am?” (Matthew 16:13–14), and they all reply “some say John the Baptist; others Elijah, some other of the prophets.”

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Then Jesus turns to them and asks them directly “Whom do YOU say that I am?” (Matthew 16:15) and it’s Peter, even though they all from called, as Jesus chose them, to the FIRST time when Jesus fed 5000 people at the start of his ministry, all of them in the boat worshipped him and said “of a truth this is the Christ. The son of the living God.” (Matthew 14:33). So, they all already all of them all said it, Jesus is the Christ or Messiah, and all said it, from the beginning.

But Matthew 16, on the way back to Capernaum, it’s Peter that's first to blurt it out, that Jesus is the Christ. The Son of the Living God, and Jesus replies to them; that, on this he will build his church (Matthew 16:17–20) and then charged them they should tell no man that he is the Christ.

So, I would tell a believer in Jesus Christ to, when they read the four gospels, look at how many times he tells his disciples or reminds them of this same thing. That, when they arrive back at Jerusalem for Passover, he is to be turned over into the hands of sinners, and be crucified, and rise again on the third day. Everytime, they become very sorrowful or greatly discouraged at hearing it.

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And immediately after this of Matthew 16:21 that opens this post, to Jesus say this, Peter openly rebukes Jesus. Because, to the disciples, this is the Messiah or Christ. That, from the scriptures: They have been taught, just as everybody else that is a Jew has been taught. That the Messiah or Christ:

He is to sit on the throne of King David in Jerusalem, and as the Messiah, the increase of his government shall see no end, and he shall rule all the nations of the earth, including Rome from Jerusalem, and of his Kingdom and reign there shall be no end.

And from that time on, until the night he was betrayed, he constantly reminds, through all four of the gospels, that he is, once again restated, to be turned over into the hands of sinners and be crucified, but rise again on the third day.

They never once, something prevents it; they don’t hear that last part. Nor do they do anything he told them to do after that he would meet them in Galilee. They don't hear that, either. They simply cannot understand how the Messiah, which all the scriptures point to him doing Isaiah 9:6–7, and being who that scripture says who the Messiah is.

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Nothing was ever taught them: That the Messiah or Christ is to be betrayed and crucified. Each time he says this, scripture says his disciples become exceedingly sorrowful; but in one disciple, Judas Iscariot, scripture says 3 days prior to reaching Jerusalem, Judas in his heart seeks a way to betray him to the Chief Priests and Elders. Finding opportunity at Jerusalem, seeks them out, and he betrays him for 30 pieces of silver (Matthew 26:14-15).

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So I would tell anyone that has this question:

• God decreed it. Told it to Daniel in the Book of Daniel.
  • That God determined 70 “weeks” on Daniel’s people and Jerusalem, that God himself would do a work with sin; that his work would:
    • 1) Finish the transgression
    • 2) Make an end of sin
    • 3) Make reconciliation for iniquity
    • 4) Bring in everlasting righteousness (Daniel 9:24; including Daniel 9:25–27)
• That he would do this in and by the Messiah or Christ; that this “Prince” would be cut off; but not for himself” (Daniel 9:25–27).
  • That this Messiah or Christ has a Second Coming as who he is.
  • Where the first time, he is a sacrifice for sin to fulfill Daniel 9:24–27.
    • But as the scriptures say in Daniel 9:24–27 this prophecy is “shut up” or sealed up until it’s done.
  • And it’s kept from his disciples in John Chapter 16; and he's going away, and leaving them - just like Jesus has repeatedly stated it, they can’t hear it. Cannot bear it in John 16. It's at the last supper.

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• But after he is raised from the dead, he opens their eyes to the scriptures - (Luke 24:45-47) - - that he is the fulfillment of Daniel 9:24-27, just as the scriptures say he would and is.

Means this.

Answer:

• The answer is simple. The works are his. God's. And the faith is his. With both, you put both these on you, as if you will do it. That's not the gospel. You are regarding the wrong work. Wrong faith. CASE CLOSED.
• For a longer, more detailed answer - get off you. See it, is: It’s in two words. In the question. “Jesus taught.”
  • So then, its you must be taught by him. Everybody must sit with and be taught by him or they won't see it.
    • The question to really ask is, “Who is Jesus?”

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If a person asks this question, but doesn’t have a good grasp of, not “what,” but “who” Jesus is, they never arrive at the answer to the question.

So, ask and answer the question, with the same Bible you’re using. Who is Jesus?

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The Bible says:

• Jesus is the Word of God. Is God. In John 1:1. “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”
  • Jesus is called the “Messiah” or “Christ.” - Jesus Christ.
• Who the “Messiah” or Christ SHALL be called is in Isaiah 9:6–7.
  • Says that whoever the Messiah is, he SHALL be called “The Mighty God..” “The Everlasting Father..” 
    • That the increase of his government shall be no end.
    • So, he’s “who” governs it.
  • So, he’s the Lord over all of it.
  • Says, as the Messiah, shall sit on the throne of King David in Jerusalem and rule the whole earth from there. Of His Kingdom and reign there shall be no end.
    • So, when he speaks, as the Word of God, it’s just God, the Lord of Hosts speaking, saying those words.

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So, when God says in the Old Testament:

“Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. (Bible. Isaiah 45:22)

There you go.

There’s God speaking. That’s the Word of God. It’s God said it. The Mighty God. The Everlasting Father. Said this. And the Bible says he is the Messiah. Or the Christ. Scripture says it is God:

Says in the Bible in Acts 2:36

“Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ”

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So? What if I or you - even he told both of us - including every single person over the whole earth, to the very ends of it - for all of us all to just look unto him.

• He decreed it. They just ARE saved. Not because I said it here in a post on Reddit. He decreed that the saving done is the saving part is on himself to do. As God. But the ‘look unto” is my part. Everybody over the whole earth's part. The "look unto" him part. And to “look unto” someone:

Has this in it:

and it’s full of grace and truth - for EVERYBODY over the whole earth to do this, decreed by God to just come and do this:

“Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.

Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness.

Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.” - God. (Bible. Isaiah 55:1–3)

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“Jesus taught…”

• Is absolutely true.
  • Jesus said, “They shall all be taught of God” - John 6:45 - That’s a decree. For everybody over the whole earth. To be taught. By God. Says SHALL be. That would mean, if they're not, it's PUNITIVE. Means, people that aren't will be called in to give an account why they didn't do what he says. Do you see that part?
• This: But not everybody, when a “Christian” is defined as 1. a disciple of Jesus Christ. and all a “disciple” is, is 2. a pupil or student that sits with and is taught by a teacher. And the teacher, simply “builds up” a student or pupil with “doctrines”
  • That a disciple sits with and is taught by Jesus Christ. Built up.
  • But a person that does not sit with and is not taught by Jesus CHrist. Is not built up.
    • In fact, Psalm 28:5 those that don't regard him, he destroys them - and if he's God and he formed you from your mother's womb; alone. By himself. (Isaiah 44:24). Then he also has the power to destroy you or me.
• SO, in the Bible says, because it's this decree by God over all this earth and heaven, that they shall all be taught of God - would not at work in these that dismiss him. Be like a kid. Never goes to school. Is not in a classroom being taught by a teacher. Is not built up. Dismisses going to school as faulty; inadequate..when the decree is everybody 6 yrs old to 18 is to go to school.
• And
• Someone that governs over you, if you dismiss, you don’t regard who they are or what they say.
  • Something in it or who they are is “faulty” and if it’s faulty..it’s unacceptable.
• Isn’t true.
• And if, to them, it is not true - never go to school: it is impossible to hearken diligently unto the teachere in school. It's impossible to obey someone you don’t know or believe in. Impossible to learn anything of that teacher or from them.
  • And all faith is, is what you “accept as true” (believe). And what you believe, you believe it true. And you will “operate” or work well by it. You will go to school. Sit with and be taught. Built up. Hearken diligently unto what you are taught.
• Then:
• Be like a washing machine. Another example:
  • If someone does not accept it as true that a washing machine cleans anything, they will never use it.
    • They just go get some soap and a bucket and a brush and do it themselves.
• When A washing machine, claims it washes clothes. That claim is rejected. Faulty.
  • So they have no faith in a washing machine. Their works, how they “operate” or clean clothes has no washing machine in it.

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• Just like a person that has no faith in the word of God.
  • Their works, how they “operate” or live has no Word of God in it.
  • Has their own.
    • Just like a person that chooses, themselves, to wash clothes. They have faith in themselves to do it, but no faith in the washing machine.
  • It does not work. Is not at work in them to use it for anything.

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• When Jesus said, as the Word of God - so God said it himself plainly. Plain as day how he wants EVERYBODY to operate is by his Word he speaks:

“Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.” - Jesus Christ. (Bible. Matthew 4:4).

So, the Key to see Mark 10:17–34

Is to see Jesus taught it.

• Then the Key to see Galatians 2:16 is… Whose “faith” is it?

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Galatians 2:16 says:

“Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.”

So, a man is “justified” - not by the chandelier at the neighbor’s house. Nor is it by some poopfly keeps landing on the dog turd out, unfortunately, in your own lawn. And much to many people's total disappointment, it's NOT by any number of car tires your Dad has saved up at his house for some unknown reason. Nope.

A man, no matter who it is, over the whole earth, is justified  - By God: in - "justified" 1. made valid; vindicated 2. shown publicly to have just, or “righteous” basis 3. made good - - by the “faith” of Jesus Christ. Oh wait! Whose that again? The trouble with you is, you got way tooooooooooooo much of YOU in your question doing all the work and all the faith.

WHEN: Jesus: Who he is... ..who is he again?

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He’s the Messiah or Christ.

• And who he shall be called is, “The Mighty God..” “The Everlasting Father..”
  • Who God said he’d be a Father unto you, and you would be his Sons and Daughters in 2 Corinthians 6:18.
  • Also said in Leviticus 11:44 "I am Holy" Said, by the word that came out of his own mouth about himself, said "God is Spirit" - so he said he's a "Holy Spirit."
  • YOU? Keep dealing with you will do it.

It's the Faith of Jesus Christ.

Because he believes in his own works. He will do it. Can do it. That's impossible. But he did it. With a lying sack of pervert. A despicably awful person. And everybody resemble that remark. Justified them, by a work he did that he is totally appeased by it; and by that work he did, gave all he has to you. And he's God.. and what Paul says: Ephesians 3:8

"Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ;"

It put me on my face....

Do you see this?

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And if Paul says in Romans 1:1 “Paul, a Servant of Jesus Christ..”

• And? In virtually EVERY other Epistle writes “Paul, an Apostle of Jesus Christ..” “..made so by God”
  • All an Apostle is, is a disciple that sat with and was taught by Jesus Christ. And is still with them. No matter where they go. Then, in Matthew 28:18 which is in the Bible.
• Who the Word of God has healed, and restored and made whole..and delivered from their destruction. Set their feet upon a rock that cannot be moved, and carved their name into a wall - their names that shall never be erased or taken away for eternity. And it was Jesus CHOSE them his Apostles - to “Go. Teach all Nations whatsoever he has taught them…” “..that he would be with them to the very ends of the earth…”
  • And man, have I ever been equipped by them. These Apostles who Jesus chose.

Where’s your question now in this?

Answer

This question is in many forms on varied sub reddits. Asking why would Paul be forbidden by the Spirit in Acts 16:6

The first thing to do though is:

Verify it in the original Greek.

Why? Because “Asia” to most people today means Japan, Taiwan, Korea, China, Mongolia, Thailand, Vietnam, et.al.

Defines in a modern day person's head, when they see this word, “Asia” - that’s what it is defined to mean. Then, they overlay it onto this verse in Acts 16:6, in the Bible. Even in them includes India, as if in Acts 16:6 is saying Paul was prevented from going to India.

When in Acts, this "Asia?"

Not the same place. Not the same thing.

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Act 16:6 says (English)

“Now when they had gone throughout Phrygia and the region of Galatia, and were forbidden of the Holy Ghost to preach the word in Asia,” but now repeat it, and include Acts 16:6–9

6 “Now when they had gone throughout Phrygia and the region of Galatia, and were forbidden of the Holy Ghost to preach the word in Asia,”

7 After they were come to Mysia, they assayed to go into Bithynia: but the Spirit suffered them not.

8 And they passing by Mysia came down to Troas.

9 And a vision appeared to Paul in the night; There stood a man of Macedonia, and prayed him, saying, Come over into Macedonia, and help us.

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Acts 16:6 in Greek

διελθόντες δὲ τὴν Φρυγίαν καὶ τὴν Γαλατικὴν χώραν κωλυθέντες ὑπὸ τοῦ ἁγίου πνεύματος λαλῆσαι τὸν λόγον ἐν τῇ Ἀσίᾳ· [Asia]

(Asia). - This Greek word is used six times in the New Testament. Right after Acts 16:6, it’s used again in Acts 19:10 and then in the same chapter in Acts 19:27 - so, I would tell you to read the whole chapter to see it in context.

• But before listed, get the geographical area by read Acts 19:1
  • “And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,”

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Now, here's some "facts."

• In the time of the Book of Acts, Ephesus was the capital city of the Roman Empire province of Asia.
• Acts 19:10 says:
  • “And this continued by the space of two years [Paul at Ephesus]; so that all they which dwelt in Asia heard the word of the Lord Jesus, both Jews and Greeks.”
• Acts 19:27 says: Introduces the incident at Ephesus with Demetrius, the Silversmith. The uproar over the whole city. Why?
  • Ephesus was the key central Roman Empire city of the Eastern Roman Empire. As such, was also the central hub city to pilgrimage for Greeks, for the worship of the Greek Goddess, Artemis. Apollos' older sister. Romans just continued it.
    • Who the Romans, after they conquered the Greeks, called Artemis, their God, Diana. Same wonderous temple. Same Ephesus. Same sister to Apollos. The temple to Artemis (Diana) was one of the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World at Ephesus.
  • Acts 19:27 - but again, I’d read the whole chapter to see it, and even I'd recommend anyone studying the scriptures with this question to just go back, and start at Acts 16:1 and read to see how it unfolds, from "prevented" or forbidden in Acts 16, to end up Paul is in the very heart of the Roman province of Asia, by three chapters later.

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Acts 19:27

• “…So that not only this our craft is in danger to be set at nought; but also that the temple of the great goddess Diana should be despised, and her magnificence should be destroyed, whom all Asia and the world worshippeth.” - Demetrius, the Silversmith.
• No links on Reddit. See the Biblical times, Roman province of Asia on a map.

See or just do a google search on “Biblestudy(dot)org” - The Roman Province of Asia for an accurate depiction of the region of Asia of the Roman Empire.

Roman Empire era, it’s the “Eastern” Empire, with Ephesus as the seat of it. Today, comprises all of Western Turkey.

A few centuries later, after this of the Book of Acts, Rome’s Caesar Constantine (Emperor Constantine) will move his Capital city from Rome, Italy over 2000 kilometers away to what is today, Istanbul, Turkey.

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Hope this helps. Question left to answer then is, “Why is that?” It would only be a guess, because, the scriptures do not say “why” God prevented it. Just that he did.

But I could see, it would be something like over here in Japan. Rich in Ephesus. The second city after Rome. That's Ephesus in Roman province of Asia.

Where the people today, of this nation (Japan) have wholly given themselves over to their idols.

Just like Ephesus. Then also, it's just like in the Old Testament with the Northern Kingdom after Israel fractured into two nations at the death of King Solomon. Not one King of the Northern Kingdom ever worshipped or followed God from inception to 722BCE, when they were vomited off the Promised Land. Why? For Idolatry.

What's going on in Ephesus? Idolatry. What's going on in Japan? Idolatry. All the same thing.

That in the tribe of Ephraim’s lands, (Northern Kingdom) a similar-like “hill” likened unto Jerusalem - with the Temple Mount (Mount Zion) - The King of the Northern Kingdom of Israel purchased and named after the owner of it, and called it “Samaria” - it was a "counterfeit Jerusalem."

Samaria: It was the capitol city of the Northern Kingdom of Israel, where they set up golden calf worship, like they had in Egypt. So, instead of the men of the Northern Kingdom, to fulfill the requirement in Leviticus or the Law with or for 3 “High Sabbaths” to journey to Jerusalem to celebrate it.

• The Northern Kingdom had Samaria. It was very rich, and they sacrificed to their idols at Samaria. Even being destroyed, would not leave off from it. That this same God said in Hosea 4:17 - is the same God speaking to Paul in Acts 16:6.
• Where scripture in Acts 16 is sending them to Macedonia, they are asking to hear the Word of God, and open to receive it - and being sent there instead.
  • It is only an assumption - only a presumption on my part, so I hesitate to do it; but, only an observation that:
    • In Acts 16:6, it's against this very same idolatry - being done in an epicentre of worship of it - - in Ephesus. Which was the SAME idolatry going on in the epicentre capital city of Samaria for the Northern Kingdom. Like idolatry is an epicentre crown of worship to the world to come to Japan, too, as it was in Ephesus.
• And to this:

God said:

“Ephraim is joined to idols: let him alone.” - God. Bible. Hosea 4:17

Same God that said this of Samaria and Ephraim, is the same God prevented Paul in Acts 16:6.

To just let these people of the Roman province of Asia; filthy rich - won’t listen to the gospel anyway, for the same reasons Demetrius the Silversmith lays out - fully and wholly joined to their idols and looked up to.

I see it same here in Japan. They are joined to their idols. Same thing. Leave them alone. That's it.

KEY NOTE:

 Look at Acts 16:7. Verse right after it. They (Paul and his companions) had "assayed" 1. tested the quality; purity; determine is it valid to do it or not

In Greek, this English "assayed" - - - it's this Greek word, {ἐπείραζον (epeirazon) } - means more to 1) purpose; then, 2) attempt to; then, in the process of attempting to go to this next town listed in Acts 16:7 - Bithynia:

That Bithynia was, like Ephesus, a Roman Empire's source of over the top, opulent level - of riches and wealth, in providing a hub of, and also a strategic supply of, like a COSTCO warehouse store in distribution of timber, marble, and agriculture; like Nicaea will later become to a later Emperor Constantine.

Rich in wine and grapes for any Hellenistic Greek, for almost 200 years up to the time of Paul, and then, in Paul's day, to a Roman Empire that worships this rich abundance.

Attributes all of it to their own worship of these gods in Asia. So, they are joined to their idols. It's a certain kind of person like this. VIrtually inpenetrable. It's hard to explain it. No matter what you say or do, they smile, and just shine you off. As if what they have is BETTER than what God offers; so makes it of no effect; by treat it as nothing.

Scripture says in Acts 16:7 - "the Spirit did not allow them to go." (καὶ οὐκ εἴασεν αὐτοὺς τὸ πνεῦμα) to Bithynia. But again, by Acts 19, after going to Macedonia in Acts 16, by Acts 19:10, after dwelling in Ephesus for 2 years, scripture says - the whole of Asia that INCLUDES Bithynia, heard the gospel.

So, Paul, like any believer in Jesus Christ, is being led. Just like any believer in Christ, follows Jesus instead of themselves anymore. Because, what God in Christ, did was done unto the whole world. Just like it has been in our today as well. There are times I'm just forbidden to tell the Japanese anything of the gospel. In fact, some quote "churches" are paid for by Buddhist temples. Why? Japanese believe them being friendly to other gods, shows how good they are, so Buddhist temples provide churches for foreigners and smile and sing, but don't know him at all. It has a form of godliness but denies him, to worship their own gods instead.

But thee ARE actual believers in Christ Jesus, that are Japanese that have escaped out of their nation. Mixed amongst many that never have, nor will. Joined to their idols.

Disclaimer: I am a believer in Jesus Christ. This post answer this question that floats around on Reddit, in many similar or like questions as it, asking about the Bible. In the New Testament, Hebrews 9:11-12. That "Hebrews" are Jews then, that are believing on Jesus Christ. Where the Temple in Jerusalem, in the City of David, where the Messiah is to sit on the throne of King David and rule the whole earth from there. That, these "Chief Priests" and "Elders" at the Temple in Jerusalem, already "dismissed Jesus as inadequate; faulty; he's unacceptable as the Messiah" - so they have rejected him.

So, these Chief Priests and Elders push that Jews are to still come to the temple in Jerusalem and celebrate Passover. One of the "High Sabbaths" that require annual pilgrimage of every Jew to fulfill this. Buy a bullock or ram to sacrifice it for their sins. That, the Ark of the Covenant in Exodus, as God told it to Moses to construct is, as a model of the heavenly. That, this Ark of the Covenant held Aaron's rod, manna that was fed to Israel while in the wilderness and the tablets of stone, that had the Ten Commandments on it. That also included the Books of Moses. That God provided Israel an atonement for their sins by these Levite Priests, and the High Priest each year, offering this sin sacrifice.

That God, is the real in the heaven, that Jesus is this Great High Priest that offered simply one sacrifice for the sins of the whole world, just as God said he determined he would do this in Daniel 9:24-27 - and he determined the "most holy" would do it. Answer in yourself, "Whose the 'most holy?' Is that you for your sins? Where you compensate for the faults and bad aspects of you, by you do the Ten Commandments?

Many people today, actually think this. I did. So, when you read Hebrews, which is to Jews that believe on Jesus Christ, so boy, do they have it tough. Cast out. Thrown out. Think on these things as you read this post.//

To see "redemption" you must first see, in yourself - - transgression. Or you will never see it. So, this is provided first.

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Answer

• Well?
  • What is:

Exodus 20:15 “Thou shalt not steal.” - God. The 8th of the Ten Commandments.

That God, continues, says: What “that” means of Exodus 20:15, says more on it in Leviticus 19:11–15

11 Ye shall not steal, neither deal falsely, neither lie one to another.

12 And ye shall not swear by my name falsely, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the Lord.

13 Thou shalt not defraud thy neighbour, neither rob him: the wages of him that is hired shall not abide with thee all night until the morning.

14 Thou shalt not curse the deaf, nor put a stumblingblock before the blind, but shalt fear thy God: I am the Lord.

15 Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour. - GOD.

Do it, you transgress against him, said “I am the LORD” who you transgress against in do this. Go ahead and do it, anyway. Just like I did.

• That ANYBODY, doesn’t matter who it is, does this anyway - their Sin against the LORD, by do it.

And “sins” are transgressions. Where God says, “The soul that sinneth, it shall die.” - God. (Bible. Ezekiel 18:20).

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What’s that mean, then?

Well, since he’s God, says he formed you and me from our mother’s womb in Isaiah 44:24, that he did this alone. By himself, like he spread out the earth and heaven, and did that, too; alone. By himself. That if he was able to do it, he’s also able to destroy me, by what he already decreed; that, the soul that sinneth, it shall die” and then the Bible says in it:

“There is not a just man on earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.” - Bible. Ecclesiastes 7:20 and also

“For all have sinned.” - Bible. Romans 3:23. And if it’s “all” then, it’s this great, big, huge EVERYBODY. All from one Adam, sprung from him, to fill up the whole earth. That everybody, Adam forward, not one person excluded - all sinned. Everybody, over the whole earth, to the very ends of it, not one person left out then - - is under a death sentence. Condemned. I didn't do it. God did it. Decreed it just is, and he said "For all the earth is mine" - God. (Exodus 19:5 - so the "authority" over the whole earth is the one decrees this.

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Sin.

So, me? A liar; a thief..a pervert. He says to me, “I am the LORD” about stealing. In Leviticus 19:14. Like, God say: “The buck stops here. With me. I’m God. Fear me. Fear what I can do to you. I can destroy you.” I see it. God continue: “You did it against your brother, you did it to me. Your sin in stealing means Leviticus 19:11-15 because I already said it. Your sin in it, is against me in it.” 

I'm guilty. I already didn't do, not do it; but even he said it, I stole from my neighbor. I'm to be put to death - lived in do it - - is the point. Maybe if YOU said it or some country, I could just flee from you or that country and go hide someplace; but, I can't.

It's God said it. It's all his heaven and earth. Even take a rocket ship someplace, I can't flee from him. He'll bring me down, and he's the authority over me. So, there is No escape for me. That's the point, too. Where I thought he couldn't see it, because, my neighbor couldn't - he's telling me the sin I did against my neighbor I did it to HIM. I see this. GUILTY. I see it.

Let's move on. That's only One of Ten Commandments. I'm already done. Thrown out. But the other ones also apply to me. Boy, am I ever so done.

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• But sins, like “Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery” - somehow, something different:

What about that, then?

- That's Exodus 20:14. The 7th of the Ten Commandments.

- God continues with this “adultery” to define it further in Leviticus 18:20, says: “Moreover thou shalt not lie carnally with thy neighbour's wife, to defile thyself with her.”

• That, by do this, you actually sleep with your neighbor', because his wife is his flesh, so you’re sleeping, to God, with your neighbor' is the point. It’s filthy. Perverted. Me? Smashed to bits, by this, too.
  • And with this 7th of the Ten Commandments, God says what the PUNISHMENT is in Leviticus 20:10

Leviticus 20:10 says:

• “And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.”
  • And God’s not done yet.

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• Jesus is the Word of God.
  • Just is God speaking, the word out of his mouth (John 1:1 says exactly who Jesus is as the Messiah or Christ, and who that is, is told you plainly in Isaiah 9:6–7.
    • That whoever the Messiah or Christ is, he shall be called, “The Mighty God..” “The Everlasting Father..” - because, that’s who the Messiah is. Says so plainly. In the Bible.
• So, when Jesus speaks, that’s just God already said Leviticus 18:20..it's he, as God, by the Word of God or the word out of God's mouth, already said, again - by the Word out of his mouth Leviticus 20:10 as the punishment..then, in Matthew 5:27–28

It’s the Word of God. Jesus said: About “adultery.”

“Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.”

• Then, whosoever looks upon a woman with lust in his heart, commits “adultery” - then, women think “oh! I can get away with it, so me looking unto the pool boy for him to schploinky me endlessly while my husband’s at work, I’m exempt!”
  • When God says, in Exodus 5:2, who he made male and female? HE, as GOD, he called them BOTH “Adam.” Boy, are you ever so done.
  • But I don’t care about you at all, because, what Jesus says, and all the Sears Catalogs, and PENTHOUSE magazines, and Hustler and all the porno I already done ate up and watched, I’m so filthy in this 7th of the Ten Commandments, the only way to dispose of me, is keep trying me, find me GUILTY. Then, after go to the post and shoot me again, all over for a billion of billion of times - because, each time I did this, are separate offenses,
• and for any one of them, I am to be put to death. Man, I'm so finished it's not funny anymore. Like some poop turd, piled up to heaven.

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Now, I can go thru all these Ten Commandments.

• Arrive at the same thing for each. I can continue to do that; but already this post is way, too long. The Point is: That, any, even one transgression, even one time, against any one of these transgressions - BREAKS the Ten Commandments. They are not repairable.

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• And I can just hear you interrupt me in all this, say: “Hey clown. I didn’t ask this. I asked about “redemption” and what is said in Hebrews 9:11–12. That says: * “But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building; Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us. * “..clown.. ..That's what I’m asking what "that” means. Go away. Or, answer the question.”
• I hear you. I do.

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And I’m answering your question. For without “transgression” there is no “redemption.” Without redemption there's no answering Hebrews 9:11-12 is the point. The foundation is then, the transgression. This, of Job 33:27 "I have sinned and perverted that which was right, and it profited me not."

Without this in it, integral, you have no answer to your question is the point. You're left, sent away empty handed, so let me continue. It's almost done.

• And about “transgression,” the Bible already it’s been said to you, says: Just repeated, because you don't think it important to answering Hebrews 9:11-12, when it is:

“For all have sinned.” - Romans 3:23 “There is not a just man on earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.” - Bible. Ecclesiastes 7:20

Just repeated, because, just like me, you are not listening. There is NONE good. No, not one.

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So, when Jesus said: “There is NONE good, but one, that is, God” - Jesus Christ. Bible. Matthew 19:17

There is ONLY ONE then, for everybody over the whole earth to look unto. There is none else. And I said all this, to get to this point.

That, what “redemption” means is:

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• It’s from this root word, redeem. (Source: Oxford dictionary. Web.) 1. to compensate for the faults and bad aspects of (someone or something). When God says "sin" is GREATER than you, and me, and everybody over the whole earth. So, you can't compensate for me, nor I you, about the sins I plainly did and put me to death.
• The point is:
  • Someone, in the Bible, that has made themselves a “redeemer” means they make themselves a payment or something that “compensates for the faults and bad aspects (which are sins or transgressions) of somebody else. There's only one that can do this. He's in Hebrews 9:11-12. That's the point.
• And GOD already said this about himself. That he made himself, as God, toward you, you totally hose bag missed it and chide me for trying to tell you, he already said Isaiah 44:24 - and missed it. And I cannot chide you, because, I missed it, too. For decades of my life.
  • He said:

“Thus saith the Lord, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the Lord that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;” - God. Bible. Isaiah 44:24

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So, God:

• Has already, in himself, something he determined he would be toward you - he just would BE what:

“..compensates for the faults and bad aspects of you..”

And he's God - so he alone, is the ONLY one GREATER than sin that I did. He's God.

• And it's whole in Because. This "because," he made himself YOUR redeemer.
  • Already said this, by the Word of God.
  • Gave his word to you he just IS this.
  • Not only for you, but for everybody over the whole earth.
• Nobody left out, so I am also included..when I constantly leave myself out, like you do. Because we regard our own word, and look frantically for some work we could do, that by that work we'd know, because we did the work that would save us from our sins.
• When there is no work we could possibly do, when GOD already condemned us, for all the sins we did.
• Still we think: that we need to do it ..somehow..when we already TRANSGRESSED - it’s so OPEN and SHUT case against us, it's Romans 3:19–20 FIRMLY IN PLACE:

AND HOW GOD USES THE TEN COMMANDMENTS? YES. IT'S HAS ALWAYS BEEN, SINCE HE SAID THEM, TO PUT US TO DEATH IN IT. SO IF YOU USE THE TEN COMMANDMENTS ANY OTHER WAY THAN HOW GOD USES THE TEN COMMANDMENTS - -YOU WILL NEVER SEE THIS “REDEMPTION” THAT YOU ASK ABOUT IN HEBREWS 9:11-12 - GOD. JUST IS THIS "REDEMPTION" - JUST MADE HIMSELF OUR REDEEMER - A WORK GOD DID TOWARD US.

A WORK HE DID HIMSELF.

Simply asked us to regard it.

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Romans 3:19–20 says:

“Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.

Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.”

So, all the LAW or Ten Commandments can do for you is give you a mirror, so you see yourself as God sees you. The LAW only works to give you a knowledge of your sins. That's it. Done.

Just like the Ten Commandments in Exodus 20 did to all of Israel at Mt. Sinai, when this same God spoke, by the Word out of his mouth, and made them all GUILTY by these decrees or Ten Commandments - all it did to them, like it does to me today, is they were put to death before him. GUILTY.

• And they murmured greatly against Moses - they could live in Egypt. So, they begged and pleaded with Moses in Exodus 20, to go on up on the Mount and make God stop talking, while Moses’ knees quaked, because he was just as GUILTY as you or I are - we have, like everybody from Adam forward, not a single one of us has DONE the Ten Commandments.

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So, the only one there is, that just made himself our “redeemer” - God did this, that he is what “compensates for the faults and bad aspects of” us - is God himself.

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And he decrees it. That everybody over the whole earth is to:

“Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. (Bible. Isaiah 45:22)

That, Christ is the redemption, for the remission of sins. Because God determined it in Daniel 9:24-27. That Jesus Christ: Just as 1 John 2:2 says, in the Bible.

“And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.”

• Hebrews, just tells this what God has done, in made himself a sacrifice for sin of himself. So that any Hebrew that's been following the Law could see it.
  • That God was in Christ, DID the Ten Commandments, and because God did them, everywhere where I or every Hebrew or Jew that also did not do them, he did them and fulfilled them and where in every and all instance where I failed and did the OPPOSITE in transgressed against the law, he made himself the compensation for that, for my sins.
• And did that same thing for you. For all your neighbors who keep screwing you and stealing your lawnmower out of your garage or try to move the property line over, or try to steal your wife. Did that for every Hebrew the Book of Hebrews is written to, that's had all their property confiscated from them, and thrown out of the temple.

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That Jesus Christ, is this Great High Priest. As such, as their High Priest in the heavens is the real one then:

• Took all that sin they do or done off them, and God, not you, God laid these Hebrew's sins on Jesus Christ. Just like he took your’s off you and did the same thing with me. With all your neighbor's.
• God: He Put your sins on Jesus on the cross, and guess what? Who was in Christ again? Yeah. God was in Christ even on the cross it was him. That when Jesus said, in John 19:30 “It is finished..and bowed his head and dismissed his Spirit” * That’s where your sins on him, went with him. Put sin to death. That God: he purged your sins in this work God did with sin himself, as God. He did this. Took "The soul that sinneth, it shall die" and he PAID it. Paid for. Done.
  • Is the reason to every Hebrew, why two lambs were present before the High Priest, and the blood of the one, was sprinkled on the other, and set FREE.
  • Is the same thing happened to YOU and what Christ did.

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• Made himself redemption for your sins. It's God himself is this. Annointed himself to do it.

What the heck are you doing? So see Hebrews 9:11–12 by regard the works of the LORD, and consider the operation of his hand. If you don't? You can't see any answer rightly to your question. Look at you. See the transgression. Be GUILTY before him. Then, see plainly. What God did with sin. Because he already said, as God, he’s YOUR redeemer.

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Made himself that. He said it. Asked you, me, everybody over the whole earth to believe on him.

In fact, he made it sin not to believe on him. Condemns you. It's said plainly in John 3:18, and repeated it again, in John 16:9 - - that the Spirit of God..which that’s just him, would reprove the whole world of Sin, because he made just not believe on Jesus Christ is the sin that condemns you, anybody - me even, it's just not believing on him.

Going to be a short judgment day - only thing asked of you, is there any fruit of a work he’s done in you, did you believe on him or not? People that don’t believe on him, sin against God in it. That’s what God has made sin.

See it. Hebrews 9:11–12 just repeats this for Hebrews or Jews that also believe on him. They are obeying God by do it, it's not sin. When the Chief Priests and Elders over the temple in Jerusalem decreed it's sin for any Jew to believe on Jesus Christ. See it then, as a Hebrew.

It's an honest question. Why? People want to do good.

But it can lead you to regard you, and what you will do as good vs. regard him, as God, and in not regard God and his work, live in regard anything BUT him instead. So, it's subtle. 1. hard to notice, see, or understand because it is not loud, bright, or obvious

If YOU: Are on the train this question is on, as a believer in Jesus Christ, or on the step to become one - pull or press the FULL STOP cord, or button.

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//This post on Reddit examines the question from a standpoint as a believer in Jesus Christ. That, it's God that reserves, for himself, an exclusive right to teach you. God determined that would be by the Word out of his mouth, and he build you up.

Said, "I will build my Church." - God. By the Word of God, so it's just by what God says, out of his mouth. Jesus Christ. Bible. Matthew 16:18.

And the "faith" is God's. That God has faith in his word to send it to you, me, everybody over the whole earth, to heal us all, and deliver us from destruction (Psalm 107:20). That, to God, his word does not go out void, but will accomplish exactly what he sent his word to do.

Says in Romans 10:17 "So then, faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God."

So, it does not come by a person sits down and "develop" 1. to build; or invent (Collin's dictionary. Web." definition. Develop. 2. to grow, change, or make something bigger, stronger, or more advanced over time

It's God that does this develop or build you up work in you as person, or me, by the Word of God.

This post champions what God does out. That, without it, a person can't do anything. That's exactly what Jesus said. (Bible. John 15:5) - it stands FIRM against this question.

So, see it.//

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Answer

An opening scripture: Repeated.

“So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.” - Bible. Romans 10:17

develop. 1. to grow or build up; construct (something) Merriam & Webster.

• And with that, then:
  • I have a question. “Whose ‘faith’ is it in ‘Christian faith?’ " Your's or mine? Or, his? It's his faith. It's the faith of Jesus Christ. (Bible. Galatians 2:16). And, if it’s not your’s but you think it is, when it’s actually someone else’s faith; then, your’s could be in anything; but if it’s HIS faith: is in only one thing. That is, Christ’s whose the source of “Christian” what he does. What does that do to you? ..and your question?

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And, just like you, even the disciples asked Jesus a very like-same question you do; just you are asking everybody on Reddit, hoping a Christian with the right answer will give you the key for you by yourself and your work to develop your faith and “grow or build up; construct” more faith.

Just like they, the Apostles or his disciples said the very same thing: In Luke 17:5

“..LORD, increase our faith..”

In the Greek, they are asking Jesus “Lord, teach us [Add to us] how to grow or build up OUR faith.”

It’s in < - { Πρόσθες ἡμῖν πίστιν } - > 1. Prosthes 2. heimin 3. pistin

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Notice anything? That word, “prosthes” - yeah. That English word, prosthesis is from it. This: 1. an artificial device designed to replace a missing or impaired body part.

Lord, we have no leg. Give us a prosthetic leg. Is "prosthes heimin pistin." That's the exact same thing said in this question.

Means like “I am missing a leg. Add to me, or give me a prosthetic one..because I don’t have one, so [Mental note: With a prosthetic leg, what I am missing (faith), I can do the things you are asking me to do] - You're asking me to run, back and forth seven times; then, add to me leg or legs to do it. Is the point. But it's not said in defiance. It's said because they know they are being decreed to do it, and can't. Something is missing in them.

Do you see this? Yeah, you do; if you ask this question. "How do I develop my Christian faith," then, ask it on Reddit, the 7th most popular internet site on the web over the whole earth, so billions of people access it.

When God said, to everybody, not one left out: "Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else." - God. (Bible. Isaiah 45:22).

It comes by hearing, and hearing by hearken unto he and what he says or speaks. I believe he said it, because, he DID say it. It's at work in me.

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Still don't see it?

Maybe you should expand out Luke 17:5 more

I mean, you’re the one without the leg asking the question. So, let’s go down that road. You just want to “build” one, a leg to stand on yourself - a prosthetic leg - - when, the disciples, who Jesus named Apostles, don’t have one, either; but, they ask him to give them one, so they can do it themselves. When Jesus said, "without me, ye can do nothing." (John 15:5). So quickly - scan up. Look at that Isaiah 45:22 again, God decreeing everybody so you're included to just look unto him. That's the Word of God. Whose Jesus again? Whose saying it?

So, these disciples of Luke 17:5 are like you. A disciple of Jesus Christ.

So, the question or what they say, becomes exactly like your’s says. So, what did Jesus say? Oh, here we go!

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Now again, in case you forgot, Luke 17:5 says:

5 And the apostles said unto the Lord, Increase our faith. [1. Prosthes 2. heimin 3. pistin - add to us a "prosthetic" we don't have the leg to do it.]

• So, what they said that to was, what was said by Jesus to them BEFORE Luke 17:5. And includes what Jesus said to them AFTER they replied to it with Luke 17:5

So, let’s capture the whole thing:

What drove 1. Prosthes 2. heimin 3. pistin

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Luke 17:1–5 says

1 Then said he [Jesus] unto the disciples, It is impossible but that offences will come: but woe unto him, through whom they come!

2 It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.

3 Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.

4 And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him.

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The question to ask is, “Why” at what he says, this same Jesus, as the Christ or Messiah say this; then,

• Ask another “Why” the Apostles, who are just disciples 1. a pupil or student that sits with and is taught by a teacher and that’s all a “disciple” is, is just some 1st or 3rd grader that sits with and is taught “doctrines” by the Word of God..who is God; as a “teacher” because, that’s who is sitting with them and teaching them, just as John 1:1 says “who” Jesus is.
• That the “Messiah” or “Christ” SHALL be called “The Mighty God…” “The Everlasting Father…” in Isaiah 9:6–7 and therefore, he is who “governs” or is LORD over the whole earth, and decrees how things SHALL be. In his earth.
  • So, when he says “offenses” ..it’s impossible they won't come..means surely they WILL come, and since he told this to them as “disciples” who will BE Apostles..which means all that is, is after they sat with and were taught by him, he’s taught them. Then, he’s going to send them out to teach all nations whatsoever he taught them, and says he will be WITH THEM, even to the ends of the earth - - says that, too, to them in Matthew 28:18.

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When the KEY is offenses. Transgressions. Sin. GUILTY of that part. No leg to stand on.

• Just like Peter said to Jesus “Depart from me Lord, for I am a sinful man” - ( Luke 5:8). This same Peter of Luke 5:8 is the same Peter that is one of the disciples that were with Jesus when he said Luke 17:1–4.
  • Peter: He’s one of them that said back to Jesus, Luke 17:5

And the REASON Peter said “Depart from me Lord, for I am a sinful man” is because, and it’s THE VERY KEY to your question, said in the next verse in Luke 5:9

For he was astonished, and all that were with him, at the draught of the fishes which they had taken:

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And all that were with Peter back in Luke 5:8 at the start, where after, Jesus said to them "follow me," was Andrew, James, and John was with Peter. And - - because, they were with Peter when he said it, and they, too, said the same thing, as Peter, and also are with Jesus and Peter in Luke 17:1–4 when Jesus says this to them.

They ALL KNOW it. They are sinful men.

And Jesus just said to them: Luke 17:2

It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.

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Then, this also applies to me. I’m a sinner. Sinned and perverted that which was right. I broke the Ten Commandments. They are NOT repairable. Doing one, does not compensate for the fault of not doing the other. But these Apostles - - Unlike Luke 5:8-9. Neither is Peter, and they all, they’re not “astonished” - they’re terrified. At themselves. Frankly, so am I.

Don’t have a leg to stand on. When you’re a sinner with transgressions.

And like you, they ask for a prosthetic. They have no leg. Give me a fake one.

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You need a “prosthetic” leg given to stand. Boy, do they want one right now. Lord, give it to me. There’s no way I can stand - - Because, a millstone hanged about my neck, and me cast into the sea is a sentence on me. It's in effect. I already DID the offense. When that once "clears" I have a whole bag of other ones is the point. Now on all of them..when they’ve already lived in offend each other and pretty much everybody constantly. Just like I have.

Are you following this?

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He’s teaching them about forgiveness of sin

• Now I got yet another question of you, even another one yet again.
  • As a “Christian”
    • And again, Acts 11:26 says: “and the disciples were first called “Christians” at Antioch” - so before that, all a “disciple of Jesus Christ” was called was.. ..well, a “disciple of Jesus Christ” said over 240 times in the New Testament; so,
  • Let’s just use that for awhile to see it; that, someone sitting with and being taught by Jesus Christ, follows him.
• Has and keeps what he says. Like a kid in 1st grade. Gets up. Walks or is bused to school, all to sit with and be taught “doctrines” and built up and learn from a teacher.
  • Built up in him.
• The teacher..and the teacher to a “disciple of Jesus Christ” is the Christ or the Messiah, so him say “They shall all be taught of God” - Jesus Christ. (John 6:45) - so it’s a decree, by God that everybody, to the very ends of the earth, shall be taught by him..but not everybody gets up.
• Goes to the classroom.
  • Nor do they sit with and be taught by him.
    • Go to any place BUT him to learn from.
• Learn from themselves..or their own experience. If they do forgiveness..it’s a transaction they do in their OWN name for their own profit. With a "prosthetic" - if you follow them, so will you.

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• When in Luke 17:1–4 Jesus is teaching a doctrine about forgiveness of sin - to a whole classroom of students…
  • don’t have a leg to stand on.
  • Already committed the offenses that just got put a millstone tied around their neck, and be cast into the sea. It would be hopeless. No leg to stand on. It would be BETTER for all of them that happened than what awaits them for it is impossible that offenses don’t come..but woe to him by whom they do come.
    • And by me: I know..I lied. Cheated. Stole. Misrepresented qualifications of myself to get promoted.. committed adultery. ..woe to him by whom they come. Came by me. GUILTY.
• You’d have to stand me up and shoot me 487,953 times after shot me dead. TO stand me up and shoot me again to pay for it, when I’m already pushed off the ship. With a great big millstone about my neck..I deserve it. ...where I breathe out of my mouth.. where I get gasping life in me..I never will. That awaits me.

I have no leg to stand on in Luke 17:1–4

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Now, before you go off, building a prosthetic leg with {Πρόσθες ἡμῖν πίστιν } - > 1. Prosthes

• Give me an “artificial” leg, something FAKE to hide that I have no leg to stand on with offenses.
  • Who is with them? Who is with me? I'm in this condition. If you really are a “disciple of Jesus Christ” means, you sit with and are taught by him…
    • WHO is with you?
• Why do I ask it?

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• It’s GOD that determined in Daniel 9:24–27 - HE: As God. Alone. By himself. Would get up and do a work with sin. 
  • ADD THIS IN:
    • That every "me" there is, is really everybody over the whole earth, and every one of them in Luke 17:1-4 that heard it, all his disciples; that he was teaching them to after, he would heal them and deliver them from their destruction of this - and after he healed and delivered them, send them out - - go.
  • Teach ALL nations all the things whatsoever he taught them and that HE WOULD BE WITH THEM, no matter where they went, to the very ends of the earth. Never leave or forsake them.

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• Is this same Jesus Christ. This same God that determined His Work with SIN - that I, and you, and everybody over the whole earth did, with a millstone tied around their neck: Because offenses already came by them:

GOD: Would

Finish the transgression - that I did.

Make an end of sin - that I did.

Make reconciliation for iniquity - that I did.

Bring in everlasting righteousness - that I don't have. And have it - and he as God bring it to me, and he be my righteousness. (Daniel 9:24 refers and decrees this)

• That it would be “sealed up” - told to Daniel - but not to his disciples until the work with sin God would do. Annoint the most holy to do this. Jesus crucified; on the cross that would be how God determined to finish and do this work with sin.
• That once DONE. This work God would do with sin is COMPLETE. Who offends me: their sin was already taken off them, by God himself and laid on Jesus Christ. He did it. This work is the work of God with sin. and when Jesus said John 19:30 "It is finished" - the disciples, and mine, and your sin was purged in Christ, and he TEACH me this. Like he taught them ..then... ..so is you to be taught this. He's giving you himself as your leg to stand on. Built up, by he do it with truth.

They, and you don't need a prosthesis. Man, they GOT THE REAL THING.

• And also - don't forget - - that he would

Annoint the Most Holy - to DO IT:

• To do that “work.” - who would finish the transgression. Who would make an end of sin. Who would make reconciliation for iniquity. Who would bring in everlasting righteousness..that makes me so astonished I cannot get off my face.
•  Whose the “Most Holy?” I mean, I’m answering your question are you paying attention?
  •  **If the Messiah or “Christ” SHALL BE called “**The Mighty God..” “The Everlasting Father…” who has that title?
• Then, if “faith” comes by hearing..and hearing by the Word of God. Whose “faith” is it that comes with ..what God says, out of his mouth? That's the Word of God. Then, who says it, He comes with it.
• He "develops" you, when you just look unto him. Put this in your pocket. Have and keep it.

He gave it to you himself.

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Now, look what he says after it:

• That’s in Luke 17:6–10

And again, it’s in response to them ask for a prosthetic leg, because, they have none to stand on - and everyone of them - it would be BETTER they or me, or you had a millstone tied around our neck for all the offenses we already done DID, and cast into the deepest sea..because they, and you and me, have already offended EVERYONE.

Luke 17:6–10 says.. and if you had who has this faith with you..because it’s not your own..it’s HIS faith in his own Word, what HE CAN ACCOMPLISH IT - - BECAUSE OF WHO HE IS, AS GOD is with you, said:

6 And the Lord said, If ye had faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye might say unto this sycamine tree, Be thou plucked up by the root, and be thou planted in the sea; and it should obey you.

7 But which of you, having a servant plowing or feeding cattle, will say unto him by and by, when he is come from the field, Go and sit down to meat?

8 And will not rather say unto him, Make ready wherewith I may sup, and gird thyself, and serve me, till I have eaten and drunken; and afterward thou shalt eat and drink?

9 Doth he thank that servant because he did the things that were commanded him? I trow not.

10 So likewise ye, when ye shall have done all those things which are commanded you, say, We are unprofitable servants: we have done that which was our duty to do.

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The field is the earth. God sowed only one seed in it. His only begotten Son, Jesus Christ. The Word of God - - Into a whole earth full of sinners.

• A Mustard Seed:
  • Did you know that mustard seeds have been found in caves from people kept them long ago; that, 500 years later, those seeds still retain their savor?
    • That only one seed.
  • It’s the tiniest of all, grows into what looks like a tree and birds..because, just like what Daniel interpreted Nebuchadnezzar’s dream (Daniel Ch. 2), that he would be a King of Nations over the whole earth, and all the earth be provided by him, that the birds would nest in the tops of the trees he planted.

Did you see what he said? A "sycamine tree" of Luke 17:6 - "sykamino" in Greek, is a "mulberry tree" - go look at a photo. They are these small trees, or "heaths" get only 5 to 15 feet high all over Jerusalem.

And what did God say..or bless what he would do in Jeremiah 17:5-8? That he would take a heath, planted in a desert ..alone..dried up; withered out, and in Greek, Luke 17:6 is "in the sea" but this < - [ἐν (en) ] - > translated as "in" is in the Bible over 2000 times to mean "by" or "with" - that he would take, as the Word of God and plant that stunted "heath" tree, of Jeremiah 17 - cursed - that sycamine or mulberry trees, naturally has roots that go down 30 feet deep - and plant it by the sea - where it would never lack water. (Jeremiah 17:5-8 - that someone that regards God now, even impossible - someone cursed - replant them by a great big body of water that never goes away..for that's what Jesus says in Luke 17:6-10. But people think it's their faith. When he's the one does this.

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AND Nebuchadnezzar - and all those after him:

• His was cut down. Where Jesus’ will never be. Boy, is this a long post. That I don't need to say something in Luke 17:6 - that HE DOES HIMSELF. What to see is - he's with me. Like he is with them. His Apostles. Even today. Like he is with you. By the Word of God. Already spoke to you. All you gotta do is regard it, that by these precious promises he makes you take on a divine nature. It's in none else.

Do you see this?

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• All to answer who is WITH YOU and given you the word of God, and by him..took away the sins of the whole world and gave them all..all his disciples legs again. Where he is their legs. They stand on a rock that cannot be moved. Just like your or I do all the same.
  • The Word of God now is their legs. To stand on, because he took away their sins. By the stripes laid on Jesus Christ, they were healed.
  • And so was I. So were you. A disciple of Jesus Christ. That sits with, and is taught by him. Is with them.
• This sacrifice for sin was applied to everybody over the whole earth. It was taught this. To the disciples. Made everyone reconciled with the same righteousness God has - he dispensed it out. Because he was IN Christ, reconciling the world unto himself all by a work he did, as God.

“Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.”

• Bible. Galatians 2:16

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How do I develop my Christian faith?

“So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.” - Bible. Romans 10:17

develop. 1. to grow or build up; construct (something)

• And with that, then:
  • I have a question. “Whose ‘faith’ is it in ‘Christian faith?’ " Who builds you up? Who is constructing something when Jesus said, "I will build my church" - then, he put you in it where he sees fit.
  • Whose faith is it in Christian faith? It's his, and he sends this faith with his word.

So, go eat.

Answer

This question is in many forms on sub reddits. Asking why would Paul be forbidden by the Spirit.

The first thing to do though is:

Verify it in the Greek.

Why? Because “Asia” to most people today means Japan, Taiwan, Korea, China, Mongolia, Thailand, Vietnam, et.al.

Defines in a modern day person's head, when they see this word, “Asia” - that’s what it is defined to mean. Then, they overlay it onto this verse in Acts 16:6, in the Bible. Even in them includes India, as if in Acts 16:6 is saying Paul was prevented from going to India.

When in Acts, this "Asia?"

Not the same place. Not the same thing.

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Act 16:6 says (English)

“Now when they had gone throughout Phrygia and the region of Galatia, and were forbidden of the Holy Ghost to preach the word in Asia,” but now repeat it, and include Acts 16:6–9

6 “Now when they had gone throughout Phrygia and the region of Galatia, and were forbidden of the Holy Ghost to preach the word in Asia,”

7 After they were come to Mysia, they assayed to go into Bithynia: but the Spirit suffered them not.

8 And they passing by Mysia came down to Troas.

9 And a vision appeared to Paul in the night; There stood a man of Macedonia, and prayed him, saying, Come over into Macedonia, and help us.

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Acts 16:6 in Greek

διελθόντες δὲ τὴν Φρυγίαν καὶ τὴν Γαλατικὴν χώραν κωλυθέντες ὑπὸ τοῦ ἁγίου πνεύματος λαλῆσαι τὸν λόγον ἐν τῇ Ἀσίᾳ· [Asia]

(Asia). - This Greek word is used six times in the New Testament. Right after Acts 16:6, it’s used again in Acts 19:10 and then in the same chapter in Acts 19:27 - so, I would tell you to read the whole chapter to see it in context.

• But before listed, get the geographical area by read Acts 19:1
  • “And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,”

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Now, here's some "facts."

• In the time of the Book of Acts, Ephesus was the capital city of the Roman Empire province of Asia.
• Acts 19:10 says:
  • “And this continued by the space of two years [Paul at Ephesus]; so that all they which dwelt in Asia heard the word of the Lord Jesus, both Jews and Greeks.”
• Acts 19:27 says: Introduces the incident at Ephesus with Demetrius, the Silversmith. The uproar over the whole city. Why?
  • Ephesus was the key central Roman Empire city of the Eastern Roman Empire. As such, was also the central hub city to pilgrimage for Greeks, for the worship of the Greek Goddess, Artemis. Apollos' older sister. Romans just continued it.
    • Who the Romans, after they conquered the Greeks, called Artemis, their God, Diana. Same wonderous temple. Same Ephesus. Same sister to Apollos. The temple to Artemis (Diana) was one of the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World at Ephesus.
  • Acts 19:27 - but again, I’d read the whole chapter to see it, and even I'd recommend anyone studying the scriptures with this question to just go back, and start at Acts 16:1 and read to see how it unfolds, from "prevented" or forbidden in Acts 16, to end up Paul is in the very heart of the Roman province of Asia, by three chapters later.

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Acts 19:27

• “…So that not only this our craft is in danger to be set at nought; but also that the temple of the great goddess Diana should be despised, and her magnificence should be destroyed, whom all Asia and the world worshippeth.” - Demetrius, the Silversmith.
• No links on Reddit. See the Biblical times, Roman province of Asia on a map.

See or just do a google search on “Biblestudy(dot)org” - The Roman Province of Asia for an accurate depiction of the region of Asia of the Roman Empire.

Roman Empire era, it’s the “Eastern” Empire, with Ephesus as the seat of it. Today, comprises all of Western Turkey.

A few centuries later, after this of the Book of Acts, Rome’s Caesar Constantine (Emperor Constantine) will move his Capital city from Rome, Italy over 2000 kilometers away to what is today, Istanbul, Turkey.

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Hope this helps. Question left to answer then is, “Why is that?” It would only be a guess, because, the scriptures do not say “why” God prevented it. Just that he did.

But I could see, it would be something like over here in Japan. Rich in Ephesus. The second city after Rome. That's Ephesus in Roman province of Asia.

Where the people today, of this nation (Japan) have wholly given themselves over to their idols.

Just like Ephesus. Then also, it's just like in the Old Testament with the Northern Kingdom after Israel fractured into two nations at the death of King Solomon. Not one King of the Northern Kingdom ever worshipped or followed God from inception to 722BCE, when they were vomited off the Promised Land. Why? For Idolatry.

What's going on in Ephesus? Idolatry. What's going on in Japan? Idolatry. All the same thing.

That in the tribe of Ephraim’s lands, (Northern Kingdom) a similar-like “hill” likened unto Jerusalem - with the Temple Mount (Mount Zion) - The King of the Northern Kingdom of Israel purchased and named after the owner of it, and called it “Samaria” - it was a "counterfeit Jerusalem."

Samaria: It was the capitol city of the Northern Kingdom of Israel, where they set up golden calf worship, like they had in Egypt. So, instead of the men of the Northern Kingdom, to fulfill the requirement in Leviticus or the Law with or for 3 “High Sabbaths” to journey to Jerusalem to celebrate it.

• The Northern Kingdom had Samaria. It was very rich, and they sacrificed to their idols at Samaria. Even being destroyed, would not leave off from it. That this same God said in Hosea 4:17 - is the same God speaking to Paul in Acts 16:6.
• Where scripture in Acts 16 is sending them to Macedonia, they are asking to hear the Word of God, and open to receive it - and being sent there instead.
  • It is only an assumption - only a presumption on my part, so I hesitate to do it; but, only an observation that:
    • In Acts 16:6, it's against this very same idolatry - being done in an epicentre of worship of it - - in Ephesus. Which was the SAME idolatry going on in the epicentre capital city of Samaria for the Northern Kingdom. Like idolatry is an epicentre crown of worship to the world to come to Japan, too, as it was in Ephesus.
• And to this:

God said:

“Ephraim is joined to idols: let him alone.” - God. Bible. Hosea 4:17

Same God that said this of Samaria and Ephraim, is the same God prevented Paul in Acts 16:6.

To just let these people of the Roman province of Asia; filthy rich - won’t listen to the gospel anyway, for the same reasons Demetrius the Silversmith lays out - fully and wholly joined to their idols and looked up to.

I see it same here in Japan. They are joined to their idols. Same thing. Leave them alone. That's it.