u/EzraDawson41

A Theory 2: More Bob, More Dill In

Man gave names to all the animals. Bob gave codes, metaphors, and motiffs to reveal his narrative and intentions.

In reference to my "Bob Dill In: A Theory" post. (Yes this is long winded, you're welcome for the free content)

Fair enough fam, lol. While I'm familiar with the quasi-nihilistic meme culture of the internet and surely realize everybody must get stoned, I admittedly expected Expecting Rain, Steve Hoffman, and Reddit Dylan fans would welcome any and all good faith community engagement. The whole world is full of speculation. Why waste a fly's shit of time making unconstructive thread-craps? Is an alternative perspective responsibly stated as speculative fan theory not refreshing, no matter how oddly it strained credulity?

I'm no writer and though my post was in good faith and, rationally considered over years, it was certainly not as adequately prepared nor as concisely stated a thesis as the matter deserved. Please kindly consider this 34 yr. old American gringo of latino heritage wittled that after a shite Amazon dsp shift and a few Cinco de Mayo margaritas. ;)

Anywho... I've decided to further research and write a book exploring these Dylan interpretations. It's consistency suggests an accuracy. I'll elaborate further on YouTube. With Twain, Shakespeare, DaVinci, Kubrick we are encouraged to analyze the artist's deeper intentions and motivations. Why not Bob Dylan?

"Something's happening here and you don't know what it is" is his modus operandi. He delights in confounding and subverting expections.

Before I beg your time's pardon and blue skidoo on out the open window, some final thoughts...

I'm indeed a fan but hardly an obsessive. I don't post here and I've only been to 4 shows in Tennessee, Georgia, Mississippi, and Kentucky, plus my first: a magnificent, intense front row experience with eye contact galore at Palo Alto, 2019.

I'm of the apparently rare opinion he's a hip, sharp 84 year old who would conceivably be interested in your posts here at ER, Reddit, and the SH forums. The possibility certainly exists he occassionally browses, let alone clandestinely participates with ease. So, just in case he does stumble onto this:

"Please don' t let me be misunderstood"

My sincerest bravo again, Zimmy. I hope my interpretations of your work are on the right track and don't irritate you or make you uncomfortable. Thanks for everything and Godspeed.

"What good am I if I know and don't do, If I see and don't say, if I look right through you?""

p.s. raRoger Waters says to tell you thank you for him at the end of his latest release.

I'll just leave this week's draft notes here for the curious.

Regards, all

(Reading Part 1 will help)

Kindly consider applying the following perspectives when next listening to Dylan. It's consistency suggests an accuracy.

"Arise, arise, he cried so loud In a voice without restraint Come out, ye gifted kings and queens And hear my sad complaint No martyr is among ye now Whom you can call your own So go on your way accordingly But know you're not alone." (St. Augustine)

-JFK trauma

-Underground Railroad-esque code, word games, and trickery

the Dylan/ Zimmy/ Anima split narrative

The events of "Empire Burlesque/ Knocked Out Low Dead/ Down In The Grave/ Oh Mercy/ Frankie and Albert/ TOOM/ Tin Angel* hint the 3 personalities get contentious for control, direction, and redemption. ("You and me we had completeness/ I can finish this alone, honey- Driftin/ Shore) "There's voices in the Knight trying to be heard, sitting here listening to every mind-polluting word. (Million Miles)

-Every public appearance, interview, award ceremony is a Kaufman-esque performance art sketch.

-All songs are in same universe and can reference each other.

-He sings to the mirror, his peers, and the Powers That Be

-Every album is brilliant and worthwhile, prioritizing vision. Production/ song aesthetic reflect his criticisms and appreciations for those genres. Each phase seemingly reflects American culture/ current administrations/ the narrative's themes. He wasn't trying to write Big Girl, Hard Rain, Tambourine Man and failed. It was always intentionally with cheek firmly planted in cheek.

Gospel years are Gonzo, Kaufman, Pink Floyd "The Wall" esque thheater/performance art where searching for meaning is challenged by false believers, hypocrites, strange beliefs, manipulation, deceit. (Aint Gonna, Gotta serve, In The Garden, When He Returns, Slow Train) "Never could learn to drink that blood and call it wine." "I can manipulate people as well as anybody." "Don't let an egg get layed in there by something you can't see..." Hope the God(s) go easy on me (Give Myself To You) You can mislead a man take a hold of heart with eyes (Gonna Change Thinkin)

The narration from "You're No Good" to "See Error's Theme" is Dylan's perspective, the reverse is Zimmerman's. (Time is going backwards, (Ring Them Bells) Is the whole thing going backwards(What Was It You Wanted) So much older then, (My Back Pages) Turnin back the years (My Own Version of You)). Maybe vice versa, but a reverse narrative is perceivable .

Rough and Rowdy Ways cover shows the Creator, Zimmerman, and his anima/female persona in back left. The Bob Dylan character stands at oft mentioned jukebox, the two dancers from the Oh Mercy cover (Frankie and Albert?) in the center. It excentuates how the Lady in yellow has a full behind/ Dylan/ Tramp does not. All night cafe, heaven/ hell/ limbo/ the setting of important events between Knocked Out Low Dead/Down In The Grave and Oh Mercy where Dylan kills Zimmerman and Zimmerman kills Dylan. (Cover art, Six feet from the well, poison headaches, repeated references to Frankie and Albert character in Nettie Moore, Man in Black Coat's old dance hall/ GAIBTY, Shooting Star,Death Is Not End, Something dead men know in Silvio, Tin Angel). Rough and Rowdy tour sets repeat for second cycle of 3 years, reflecting not just how he can rearrange the songs/ emphasize different lyrics to change the same songs, but also reflecting how the working class enable authority to serve us the same slop over and over again (Biden/Trump) by voting with our wallets/ attendence. Ends the tour in Abilene. (Enabling)

AI album on the horizon?

-- WATCH FOR HIS WORD GAMES

Lots of anagrams, word asdociation, phonetic similarities, double entendre....

Canadee IO= Kennedy I Owe Disease of Conceit= DOC Knocked Out Low Dead MMF= mmmffff/ Male Male Female Sinatra albums= SITN FAT Rainy Day Women (#12 and 35) = Ray Need A Woman, JFK 35th president (Gotta Serve "call me Ray") 115th dream= 1/15 MLK bday/ dream speech The sky= Often phonetically intended to sound like "This guy" Early Roman Kings- ERK Every Grain Of Sand= EGOS Isis- Aye, Sis/ Ice is. Casket was empty. (MT/ Modern Times) Romance In Durango- Roam and sing the angle Soon After Midnight- SAM Al, The Tires Whore, Says "In The Son, how'm I s'possed to get in riding (Coattails?) done Shy dough king dumb I Contain Multitudes ( ICM I see 'em) John WasLEE HARding Key West- Bowie/ Kanye visionaries Rough and Rowdys Ways- "rough fan rowed aways," "Rough end, rowed aways." Tempest underline "Am pissed" Christmas In The Heart= Christ, Missin' The Art Two riders, two writers When The Knight Comes Falling From This Guy Moderns Times= MT, empty/ My Darn Times Time Out of Mind= Toom In Fidel's Mississippi= Mrs. Hippy Sum Her Days Buy and Buy Loan Some Tape, Lose Float her tomb, Much to ask Shadows in the Knight Changing of The Guards (Gods) Slowed Rain Coming Desire=Does Ire Nashville skyline= with a southern accent Nashville's Killin Mother of Muses=MOM Black Rider= Black Writer Crossing Ruby Con Street legal: 16 years since 1962 debut, 60 years before Shadow Kingdom? Mystic= Miss Dick Blood in my eyes/ til eyes begin to bleed= Blood in ass/ til ass begin to bleed humor. Shot of Love= SOL/ SOUL

On & on & on... The guy's brilliant.

Evidence reoccuring characters, events, and symbolism occur:

2/3 personality evidence: Someone else is speakin’ with my mouth, but I’m listening only to my heart (I and I) Got My Mind Made Up/ Made Up My Mind Give Myself/ Boy and girl baked in a pie (Under Red Sky) Maybe someday when you're by yourself alone you'll know the love that I had for you was never my own/And you'll see you look much better with me than you do with him/both of us, baby, were going though some sort of a test Neither one of us could do what we do best/There's no excuse for you to say that we don't think alike (Maybe Someday) MMF= (Male male female) I dont carry dead weight I'm no flash in the pan/ set ya straight Im a union man (Cry A While) Lone Ranger/Tonto (BD Blues) "Rob(ert) every bank you can see." "Unlike songs written UP in Tin Pan(gel) Alley/this song wasn't written up there, written down in." If God's on our side he'll stop the next war (With God/Side) When ev'rything I'm a-sayin' you can say it just as good. You're right from your side. I'm right from mine. We're both just one too many mornings... (One Too/Mornings) I'll be with you when the deal goes down (WTDGD) You say you want to quit me, I say no not yet (Levee Break) I have the vision to cause division. (Aint Gonna Go Hell) I ain't holdin' nothin' back now, I ain't standin' in anybody's way/ I got up this mornin', saw the rising sun return (Rollin Tumblin) The Seven Wonders of the World are here, the evil and the good livin' side by side (Scarlet Town)Depart from me this moment I told her with my voice, will secretly accept you, and together we'll fly south (As I Went Morning) Knight We Called It Day, Beyond Here Lies Nothin music videos/This love could tear me in two (Spirit on Water) /Forge my identity from the inside out (MOM)/ Life isnt about finding but creating yourself (Rolling Thunder quote) Gun in every hand (JWH) I carry 4 pistols (ICM)I don't like playing cat and mouse No gentleman likes making love to a servant Especially when he's in his father's house/ I can finish this alone, honey (Driftin/ Shore) I’m beginning to hear voices and there’s no one around/ Reality has always had too many heads (Cold Irons)They said what's up is down, they said what isn't is, they put ideas in his head that he thought were his (Clean Cut Kid) Must be living in the shadow of some kind of evil star [ShootingStar?] (Unbelievable)

3: Babies born (North Country B.) 3 angels, Triplicate, nashvile skyline triangle, 303 rarw dates, 3 bums in rags (MMF) 3 ships sailing my way (115th dream), Seen Zapruder 33 times maybe more (MMF)

5: 5children- (Hollis)/ Obviously Five Believers/5 hands reaching on Saved cover

7: Breezes blowin/shots/dead/new people being born (Hollis) The Seven Wonders of the World are here (Scarlet Town)

42nd street: Talkin WW3, Positively 42nd Street

Albert: (Grossman?) Frankie and Albert, Alberta (1 2 3) Nettie Moore

Alley: Clown who cried in the alley (Hard Rain) Daddy's in the alley looking for the fuse (Tombstone B.) Last night cross the alley there's a pounding on the wall, must have been Don P making 2 am booty call (Cry Awhile)boy/ girl lived in an alley (Under The Red Sky) Back Alley Sally (Cats in The Well)

Backwards Time: Times A Changin The slow one now will later be fast as the present now will later be past, the order is rapidly fadin', and the first one now will later be last(TTAAC) Oh, my name, it ain't nothin', my age, it means less (With God/Side) I go right to the edge, right to the end I go right where all things lost are made good again (ICM) Made up my mind I had to go on. (Isis/Mind Made Up/ Give Myself To You parallel?) Watch clocks in MMF/ Key West, TWW3, and 4 am Hurricane/ Under Your Spell." Clock stops at St. Peter's gate (Hate Be You Dreadful Day) Way past midnight (Cant Wait) Looks like I'm moving/standing still (Not Dark Yet) 2 am booty call (Cry Awhile)Darling, tell me the truth, how much time I got?"She says, "You got all the time in the world, honey (Handy Dandy) (I Feel A Change Coming On)/4 am in Hurricane/ Under Your Spell? / Watch time in Talkin WW3/ radio on and off in reverse MMF and Key West/ Johnson sworn in 2:38. Round about midnight we'll be on the same side (Beyond Horizon) I'm still in this all night cafe (Watch River)

Barefoot:

Bells: Fallout shelter bell (Talkin WW3) Ring them bells (Oh Mercy) See me returning (Dylan returns to Zimmy?) " Feel it in the wind. Ring down when you're ready Im waiting for you" (When The Knight Comes Falling From This Guy) Ain't dead yet my bell still rings (ERK)

The Bend: All dreams vanished, dont know whats around bend (DINTE)

Bill: Billy (Pat Garett) Bills put down (Frankie/Judas)/ Uncle Tom still workin' for Uncle Bill/ Sweet william on death bed lay (Scarlet Town/ McKinley in MMF)

Black and white: His favorite palette to alternate in concert. The band's outfits, stage design, etc. "Easy to tell wrong from right" (BD Blues) The Son, The Moon, The Day, The Knight? Gray? (Man named Gray?) All things are beautiful in their time, the black and the white (Scarlet Town)

Blue Eyed Son: Man of piece, Hard Rain

The Boss: The pressures down, the boss ain't here he gone North (Sweetheart Like) Boss-Tin town (Highlands) Have I surrendered to the will of God, or am I still acting like the boss?(Are Ready) Late one night when The Boss came home (Tin Angel)

Brother: My brother failed to come home, The same as my father before him (NC Blues) Blood on the Tracks production with his brother's assistance.

Burning: (Somethings burning baby), I met a young girl her body was burning (Hard Rain) When cities on fire burning flesh of men (DINTE) You too shall burn (Rolln Tumblin) Dont you burn (When Returns) We're going all the way 'til the wheels fall off and burn 'til The Son peels the paint and the seat Covers fade and the water mock a sin dies." (BG)I got nothin' left to burn, Don't know if I saw you if I would kiss you or kill you it probably wouldn't matter to you anyhow (Standing/ Doorway) Well my house is on fire, burnin' to this guy (til I Fell in Love With You)

Dawn/evening: When rooster crows, look out window I'll be gone(DTTIA) And the day is a-gettin' dark ( One Too/Mornings)

Death of Narrator:Theres no water in your well (B. Hollis Brown) Pray I don't die of thirst 2 feet from the well (Under Spell) You never miss your water til you well runs dry (Stick Together) (No Good)(Fixin To Die) (In My Time Of Dying) (See My Grave Kept Clean) I've been conjuring up all these long dead souls from their crumblin' tombs (Rollin Tumblin) The Knight We Called It A Day and Beyond Here Lies Nothin music videos/ You ever seen a ghost? No but youve heard of them (Spirit on Water) I'm still in this all night- cafe (Watch River) Eye is like shooting star (Oh Mercy death? In MUMMTGMTY) Two big bags of deadman's bones/ A childish dream is a deathless need/ noble truth sacred creed(TweedleD/TD)I dont carry dead weight no flash in the pan/ set straight Im a union man (Cry A While) how much poison did they inhale (2x2) Pellets of poison are flooding their waters (Hard Rain) Poison headache (Pledging Time) (World Gone Wrong)All dreams vanished, dont know whats around bend (DINTE) you and me we had completeness/ I can finish this alone, honey (Driftin/ Shore) We're going all the way 'til the wheels fall off and burn 'til The Son peels the paint and the seat Covers fade and the water mock a sin dies." (BG) Dead Man when will you arise? (DMDM)The ghost of our old love has not gone away/ Got nothin' left to burn, Don't know if I saw you if I would kiss you or kill you it probably wouldn't matter to you anyhow (Standing/ Doorway) Well I’m strolling through the lonely graveyard of my mind, left my life with you somewhere back there along the line (Cant Wait) He'll say, "Nothin' neither 'live nor dead" (Handy Dandy)

Diamonds: Highway (Down the Highway) of diamonds with nobody on it (Hard Rain) Thinkin about diamonds (Isis)

Doctor/DOC: Talkin WW3, "Doctor said McKinley your death is on the wall." (Key West) Best friend dr wont tell me what I got (Tom Thumb) DOC (DOConceit)

Doorway: Dont Stand in Doorway/Block up Hall (TTAAC) From the crossroads of my doorstep my eyes start to fade, and I turn my head back to the room where my love and I have laid (One Too/Mornings) You left me standing in the doorway cryin' (SITD)

Dreams: Talking WW3 Series of Dreams, Bob Dylan's Dream, 115th dream (MLK bday 1/15) Mt Freud with dreams (MoVOY) A childish dream is a deathless need/ noble truth sacred creed (Tweedle Dee/D) When we were made in dreams (BiT) All dreams vanished, dont know whats around bend (DINTE) city that dreams (Ring Bells) Adjust to what, a dream that bust? (Clean Cut Kid)

Father: My brother failed to come home, The same as my father before him (NC Blues) Come mothers and fathers throughout the land and don't criticize what you can't understand(TTAAC) Why must uou criticize? Same thing my Father do, I can do likewise. (In The Garden) Servant dont wanna make love in Father's house (Driftin/Shore)

Female Perspective: Marrried John Thomas, a miner, 3 children (NC Blues) I'm just like Anne Frank like Indiana Jones (I C Multitudes) I'm not there I'm gone (INT) The Gutter: Poet died (Hard Rain) Go back find a pretty boy (False Profit) I've felt transient joys (When Deal Goes Down) Transparent woman transparent dress, suits well must confess. (Goodbye J Reed) KOL cover, Knight We Called Day/ Beyond Here videos/ Depart from me this moment I told her with my voice, will secretly accept you, and together we'll fly south (As I Went Morning)

Frankie: (Frankie Lee?) Character in Frankie and Albert, Nettie Moore

Grease: Football man with greasy hands (Shall Be Free) Gonna leave a greasy trail (Nettie Moore)

Fountain:

The heist: Isis, Lily/Jack Hearts

The hill: Chased me a woman up the hill (Shall Be Free) Scarlet Town is under the hill (ST) I'm high on the hill (Spirit) hills of mystery (BiT)10000 men on a hill silver/ gold (10000 men/ False Profit ref?)

Honey (Baby? Gal?Mom?): So long Honey, Babe (Dont Think Twice) Has airplane/ passenger train (Honey Just Allow Me One More Chance) Gal named Honey stole my money (SAM) I can finish this alone, honey (Driftin/ Shore) Brownesville girl, youre my honey love (BG) oh honey after all these years still the one (Cant Wait) They said it was the land of milk and honey now they say it's the land of money (Unbelievable)

Ice :I Shall Be Free (Ice shall be free) Isis/Aye, Sis/ Ice, Sis And the fire in the air, it felt frozen 'til a man come to speak, and he said in one week that number 11 was closing

Jack: A roe, Of Hearts, Frost, Fate, Blackjack Davey

Jim: Big Jim (Lily/Jack Hearts), Jim Jones

Jfk: Telephone would not stop rininging, President Kennedy asking my friend Bob what do we need to make country grow/My friend John, Bridgette Bardot "Turn and run faster when the fast bullets fly?"(MoW) ?Foreshadowing Dylan's reaction to status/JFK?

Joe: (Joan/ Joni?) Joey, Diamond Joe, Set'em up Joe (Scarlet Town) Saxophone Joe (Country Pie)

John: John Wes LEE HARding, John Thomas, a miner (NC Blues) Lost john on railtoad track (Nettie Moore) (Roll on John) (John Brown)

Judas: Of old//Of fold? (Masters War) Judas Priest (Frankie Lee/ JP) Thinkin many dark hour Jesus betrayed by kiss, Judas Iscariot have God on side? (With God on Side)

Judge: Tell the judge I said it was alright (BD Blues) Come mothers and fathers throughout the land, And don't criticize What you can't understand(TTAAC) The judge he holds a grudge gonna call on you, badly built walks in stilts (Most Likely You Go) The judge in Drifters Escape

The Knight: In the darkness of my knight (GFTNC) As the night comes in a-fallin'/ The silent knight will shatter (One Too/ Mornings) I see the shadow of a man baby, making you blue/Who is he baby, and what's he to you/ Why are your eyes just staring off in the knight/ Mid knight rain (When Knight/Fallin) The Knight is filled with Shadows, the years are filled with early doom (Rollin Tumblin) Fly away little bird, fly by Knight like the (ERK) To knight, no light will shine on me (One More Knight) In the lonely Knight in blinking stardust of pale blue light (Born In Time)

Lady: little lady by my side (Shall Be Free) The light: No use turnin on that light I never known (DTTIA) Brightness of my day (GFTNC) (Sad eyed Lady) (Desolation Row) First Lady aint feeling too good (MMF)

Lee: Frankie Lee, Henry/ Stagger Lee

The Light: The landscape is glowin', gleamin' in the golden light of day(Rollin Tumblin) Shine your light, move it on (ROJ) To knight, no light will shine on me (One More Knight) Lightning struck courthouse (Drifters Escape) Daylight sneakin through the window (Watch River) I've got my back to The Son the Light is too intense/ See what everybody in world is against (Sugar Baby)In the lonely Knight in blinking stardust of pale blue light (Born In Time)

Lily: Lillies that bloom (Ring Bells) Lily of West/ Lily, Rosemary, Jack (LRaJoH)

The Line: Where winds hit heavy on The Borderline (GFTNC) Lone Ranger and Tonto riding down The Line (BD Blues) The one road we traveled on would shatter and split (BD Dream) The Line it is drawn the curse it is cast (TTAAC) Key west is on the horizon line (KW) Across the divide(Beyond the horizon) I go right to the edge I go right to the end I go right where all things lost are made good again (ICM) I have the vision to cause division. (Aint Gonna Go Hell) Been in brawl, now feeling the wall (Spirit on Water) "The ghost of our old love has not gone away" (Standing/ Doorway) You got a way of tearing the world apart (Sugar Baby) Sorry for not breakin' down no bedroom door to get at you (Maybe Someday) My back is already to the wall, where can I run?(Dead Man) Cuttin of fences (Where Teardrops Fall) I feel like the whole world got me pinned up against the fence(til I Fell in Love With You) The walls of pride are high and wide, can’t see over to the other side (Cold Irons) Left my life with you somewhere back there along the line (Cant Wait)

Mary: Dresses in green (SAM)/Queen Mary shes my friend I believe I'll go see her again. (JLAW) / Mistress Mary by William's death bed (Scarlet Town) Take A Message to Mary/ Mary and The Soldier/ Mary From Wild Moore. /I was riding in a buggy with Miss Mary Jane (Trying Get Heaven)

Masks: Masters/War, Scorcese Rolling Thunder film, Halloween Bootleg 6, Wig (I Shall Be Free) face like mask (Man Black Coat) take off your mask (When Returns)

The Meadow: She was there in the meadow (Love Sick?) Lovers in the meadow (Love Sick

Mountain: How long exist before washed to sea (BITW) I'll reflect from the mountain so all souls can see it/ 12 misty mountains (Hard Rain) Up on Black Mountain day detroit fell (ERK)Climbed mountain of swords with bare feet (False Prophet) Go tell real story (G Jimmy Reed)

Naked: "High flyin bare naked out the window" (I Shall Be Free)

North: Cold in the North (Isis) North country fair where the wind hits heavy on borderline (Girl From North Country) (North Country Blues) Anne Frank in Attic (I C Multitudes) Wicked Wind on upper deck (Senior)

Ocean/Sea: (Audience/fans?) I'll stand on the ocean until I start sinkin(Hard Rain) The ocean took my baby from me/ Meet me in the middle of the ocean leave this highway (Down the Highway) And admit that the waters around you have grown (TTAAC)The Son is sinking over banks of deep blue sea. (Workingman B) Beyond the sea/shifting sands (K West)

Oxford Town/ Mississippi, around the bend

Paradise: Eternity (Frankie Lee/ Judas P.) Key West is paradise divine (Key West) This love can split me in two, I wanna be with you in paradise (Spirit on Water) Oh, the French girl, she's in paradise and a drunken man is at the wheel (Dark Eyes)

Poison: Pellets of poison are flooding their waters (Hard Rain) Poison headache (Pledging Time) how much poison did they inhale (2x2)

Pony: young child beside a dead pony (Hard Rain) Got a new pony (Po' knee?) Lucifer (New Pony) Somebody beating on a dead horse (Man Black Coat)

Rags: (Gags that silence) Hattie Carrol, Stuck in Mobile, Nashville Skyline rag, rags to riches (Every Grain) Rainbow: Young girl gave me a rainbow (Hard Rain)

Ruby: Ruby lips (Rubicon) Ruby was in the backyard hanging Clothes, she had her red hair tied back

Saints: Saint coming through (baby blue) Saint Annie (Queen j)St. james (mmf/ McTell) Saint Peter (MOVOY)

Scarlet: Charlotte’s a harlot, dresses in scarlet (SAM)/Scarlet Town/ Scarlet Johannsen

Shadows: In Knight/ Shadow Kingdom Are falling (Not Dark Yet) looking at my shadow, watching the clouds up above (Dirt Road)

Slim: Two timing Slim, who's ever heard of him? (SAM) Guitar slim (MMF)

The Son: I've got my back to The Son the Light is too intense/ see what everybody in world is against (Sugar Baby) The Sun don't shine above the ground (Oxford Town), Came in from the East with The Sun in my eyes. (Bob Dylan)/ I can see for myself The Son is sinking over banks of deep blue sea. (Workingman B) The Son can burn your brains right out (Long Wasted) They killed him on alter of Rising Son (MMF) Crying like fire in The Son (Baby Blue) I've seen the Son rise, I've seen the Don (Give Myself To You) We're going all the way 'til the wheels fall off and burn 'til The Son peels the paint and the seat Covers fade and the water mock a sin dies." (BG)

Thunder: Heard the sound of the thunder that roared out a warning (Hard Rain) Thunder on the mountain If I turn a deaf ear to the thunderin' sky,(What good am I?)

Tom: Uncle Tom (Scartlet Town)/ Tom Thumb (JLTTB) Tom Payne (As Went Morning)

The Tomb: (TOOM) I boke into the tomb (Isis) Lily/Jack Hearts vault?

Train: Freight Train Blues, Fell asleep on train had dream (Bob Dylan's Dream) Long distance train (Where You Tonight) Slow Train Comin)People on the platforms Waiting for the trains (Trying Get Heaven)

Wheel: And don't speak too soon for the wheel's still in spin (Times AChangin) This Wheel's on fire/This wheel shall explode (TWSE) Oh, the French girl, she's in paradise and a drunken man is at the wheel (Dark Eyes)

"I feel nothing for their game where beauty goes unrecognized"

Courtesy, kindness and dialogue, folks. Courtesy, kindness and dialogue.

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u/EzraDawson41 — 12 days ago

A Theory 2: More Bob, More Dill In

Man gave names to all the animals. Bob gave codes, metaphors, and motiffs to reveal his narrative and intentions.

In reference to my "Bob Dill In: A Theory" post. (Yes this is long winded, you're welcome for the free content)

Fair enough fam, lol. While I'm familiar with the quasi-nihilistic meme culture of the internet and surely realize everybody must get stoned, I admittedly expected Expecting Rain, Steve Hoffman, and Reddit Dylan fans would welcome any and all good faith community engagement. The whole world is full of speculation. Why waste a fly's shit of time making unconstructive thread-craps? Is an alternative perspective responsibly stated as speculative fan theory not refreshing, no matter how oddly it strained credulity?

I'm no writer and though my post was in good faith and, rationally considered over years, it was certainly not as adequately prepared nor as concisely stated a thesis as the matter deserved. Please kindly consider this 34 yr. old American gringo of latino heritage wittled that after a shite Amazon dsp shift and a few Cinco de Mayo margaritas. ;)

Anywho... I've decided to further research and write a book exploring these Dylan interpretations. It's consistency suggests an accuracy. I'll elaborate further on YouTube. With Twain, Shakespeare, DaVinci, Kubrick we are encouraged to analyze the artist's deeper intentions and motivations. Why not Bob Dylan?

"Something's happening here and you don't know what it is" is his modus operandi. He delights in confounding and subverting expections.

Before I beg your time's pardon and blue skidoo on out the open window, some final thoughts...

I'm indeed a fan but hardly an obsessive. I don't post here and I've only been to 4 shows in Tennessee, Georgia, Mississippi, and Kentucky, plus my first: a magnificent, intense front row experience with eye contact galore at Palo Alto, 2019.

I'm of the apparently rare opinion he's a hip, sharp 84 year old who would conceivably be interested in your posts here at ER, Reddit, and the SH forums. The possibility certainly exists he occassionally browses, let alone clandestinely participates with ease. So, just in case he does stumble onto this:

"Please don' t let me be misunderstood"

My sincerest bravo again, Zimmy. I hope my interpretations of your work are on the right track and don't irritate you or make you uncomfortable. Thanks for everything and Godspeed.

"What good am I if I know and don't do, If I see and don't say, if I look right through you?""

p.s. raRoger Waters says to tell you thank you for him at the end of his latest release.

I'll just leave this week's draft notes here for the curious.

Regards, all

(Reading Part 1 will help)

Kindly consider applying the following perspectives when next listening to Dylan. It's consistency suggests an accuracy.

"Arise, arise, he cried so loud In a voice without restraint Come out, ye gifted kings and queens And hear my sad complaint No martyr is among ye now Whom you can call your own So go on your way accordingly But know you're not alone." (St. Augustine)

-JFK trauma

-Underground Railroad-esque code, word games, and trickery

  • the Dylan/ Zimmy/ Anima split narrative

The events of "Empire Burlesque/ Knocked Out Low Dead/ Down In The Grave/ Oh Mercy/ Frankie and Albert/ TOOM/ Tin Angel* hint the 3 personalities get contentious for control, direction, and redemption. ("You and me we had completeness/ I can finish this alone, honey- Driftin/ Shore) "There's voices in the Knight trying to be heard, sitting here listening to every mind-polluting word. (Million Miles)

-Every public appearance, interview, award ceremony is a Kaufman-esque performance art sketch.

-All songs are in same universe and can reference each other.

-He sings to the mirror, his peers, and the Powers That Be

-Every album is brilliant and worthwhile, prioritizing vision. Production/ song aesthetic reflect his criticisms and appreciations for those genres. Each phase seemingly reflects American culture/ current administrations/ the narrative's themes. He wasn't trying to write Big Girl, Hard Rain, Tambourine Man and failed. It was always intentionally with cheek firmly planted in cheek.

Gospel years are Gonzo, Kaufman, Pink Floyd "The Wall" esque thheater/performance art where searching for meaning is challenged by false believers, hypocrites, strange beliefs, manipulation, deceit. (Aint Gonna, Gotta serve, In The Garden, When He Returns, Slow Train) "Never could learn to drink that blood and call it wine." "I can manipulate people as well as anybody." "Don't let an egg get layed in there by something you can't see..." Hope the God(s) go easy on me (Give Myself To You) You can mislead a man take a hold of heart with eyes (Gonna Change Thinkin)

  • The narration from "You're No Good" to "See Error's Theme" is Dylan's perspective, the reverse is Zimmerman's. (Time is going backwards, (Ring Them Bells) Is the whole thing going backwards(What Was It You Wanted) So much older then, (My Back Pages) Turnin back the years (My Own Version of You)). Maybe vice versa, but a reverse narrative is perceivable .

Rough and Rowdy Ways cover shows the Creator, Zimmerman, and his anima/female persona in back left. The Bob Dylan character stands at oft mentioned jukebox, the two dancers from the Oh Mercy cover (Frankie and Albert?) in the center. It excentuates how the Lady in yellow has a full behind/ Dylan/ Tramp does not. All night cafe, heaven/ hell/ limbo/ the setting of important events between Knocked Out Low Dead/Down In The Grave and Oh Mercy where Dylan kills Zimmerman and Zimmerman kills Dylan. (Cover art, Six feet from the well, poison headaches, repeated references to Frankie and Albert character in Nettie Moore, Man in Black Coat's old dance hall/ GAIBTY, Shooting Star,Death Is Not End, Something dead men know in Silvio, Tin Angel). Rough and Rowdy tour sets repeat for second cycle of 3 years, reflecting not just how he can rearrange the songs/ emphasize different lyrics to change the same songs, but also reflecting how the working class enable authority to serve us the same slop over and over again (Biden/Trump) by voting with our wallets/ attendence. Ends the tour in Abilene. (Enabling)

AI album on the horizon?

-- WATCH FOR HIS WORD GAMES

Lots of anagrams, word asdociation, phonetic similarities, double entendre....

Canadee IO= Kennedy I Owe Disease of Conceit= DOC Knocked Out Low Dead MMF= mmmffff/ Male Male Female Sinatra albums= SITN FAT Rainy Day Women (#12 and 35) = Ray Need A Woman, JFK 35th president (Gotta Serve "call me Ray") 115th dream= 1/15 MLK bday/ dream speech The sky= Often phonetically intended to sound like "This guy" Early Roman Kings- ERK Every Grain Of Sand= EGOS Isis- Aye, Sis/ Ice is. Casket was empty. (MT/ Modern Times) Romance In Durango- Roam and sing the angle Soon After Midnight- SAM Al, The Tires Whore, Says "In The Son, how'm I s'possed to get in riding (Coattails?) done Shy dough king dumb I Contain Multitudes ( ICM I see 'em) John WasLEE HARding Key West- Bowie/ Kanye visionaries Rough and Rowdys Ways- "rough fan rowed aways," "Rough end, rowed aways." Tempest underline "Am pissed" Christmas In The Heart= Christ, Missin' The Art Two riders, two writers When The Knight Comes Falling From This Guy Moderns Times= MT, empty/ My Darn Times Time Out of Mind= Toom In Fidel's Mississippi= Mrs. Hippy Sum Her Days Buy and Buy Loan Some Tape, Lose Float her tomb, Much to ask Shadows in the Knight Changing of The Guards (Gods) Slowed Rain Coming Desire=Does Ire Nashville skyline= with a southern accent Nashville's Killin Mother of Muses=MOM Black Rider= Black Writer Crossing Ruby Con Street legal: 16 years since 1962 debut, 60 years before Shadow Kingdom? Mystic= Miss Dick Blood in my eyes/ til eyes begin to bleed= Blood in ass/ til ass begin to bleed humor. Shot of Love= SOL/ SOUL

On & on & on... The guy's brilliant.

Evidence reoccuring characters, events, and symbolism occur:

2/3 personality evidence: Someone else is speakin’ with my mouth, but I’m listening only to my heart (I and I) Got My Mind Made Up/ Made Up My Mind Give Myself/ Boy and girl baked in a pie (Under Red Sky) Maybe someday when you're by yourself alone you'll know the love that I had for you was never my own/And you'll see you look much better with me than you do with him/both of us, baby, were going though some sort of a test Neither one of us could do what we do best/There's no excuse for you to say that we don't think alike (Maybe Someday) MMF= (Male male female) I dont carry dead weight I'm no flash in the pan/ set ya straight Im a union man (Cry A While) Lone Ranger/Tonto (BD Blues) "Rob(ert) every bank you can see." "Unlike songs written UP in Tin Pan(gel) Alley/this song wasn't written up there, written down in." If God's on our side he'll stop the next war (With God/Side) When ev'rything I'm a-sayin' you can say it just as good. You're right from your side. I'm right from mine. We're both just one too many mornings... (One Too/Mornings) I'll be with you when the deal goes down (WTDGD) You say you want to quit me, I say no not yet (Levee Break) I have the vision to cause division. (Aint Gonna Go Hell) I ain't holdin' nothin' back now, I ain't standin' in anybody's way/ I got up this mornin', saw the rising sun return (Rollin Tumblin) The Seven Wonders of the World are here, the evil and the good livin' side by side (Scarlet Town)Depart from me this moment I told her with my voice, will secretly accept you, and together we'll fly south (As I Went Morning) Knight We Called It Day, Beyond Here Lies Nothin music videos/This love could tear me in two (Spirit on Water) /Forge my identity from the inside out (MOM)/ Life isnt about finding but creating yourself (Rolling Thunder quote) Gun in every hand (JWH) I carry 4 pistols (ICM)I don't like playing cat and mouse No gentleman likes making love to a servant Especially when he's in his father's house/ I can finish this alone, honey (Driftin/ Shore) I’m beginning to hear voices and there’s no one around/ Reality has always had too many heads (Cold Irons)They said what's up is down, they said what isn't is, they put ideas in his head that he thought were his (Clean Cut Kid) Must be living in the shadow of some kind of evil star [ShootingStar?] (Unbelievable)

3: Babies born (North Country B.) 3 angels, Triplicate, nashvile skyline triangle, 303 rarw dates, 3 bums in rags (MMF) 3 ships sailing my way (115th dream), Seen Zapruder 33 times maybe more (MMF)

5: 5children- (Hollis)/ Obviously Five Believers/5 hands reaching on Saved cover

7: Breezes blowin/shots/dead/new people being born (Hollis) The Seven Wonders of the World are here (Scarlet Town)

42nd street: Talkin WW3, Positively 42nd Street

Albert: (Grossman?) Frankie and Albert, Alberta (1 2 3) Nettie Moore

Alley: Clown who cried in the alley (Hard Rain) Daddy's in the alley looking for the fuse (Tombstone B.) Last night cross the alley there's a pounding on the wall, must have been Don P making 2 am booty call (Cry Awhile)boy/ girl lived in an alley (Under The Red Sky) Back Alley Sally (Cats in The Well)

Backwards Time: Times A Changin The slow one now will later be fast as the present now will later be past, the order is rapidly fadin', and the first one now will later be last(TTAAC) Oh, my name, it ain't nothin', my age, it means less (With God/Side) I go right to the edge, right to the end I go right where all things lost are made good again (ICM) Made up my mind I had to go on. (Isis/Mind Made Up/ Give Myself To You parallel?) Watch clocks in MMF/ Key West, TWW3, and 4 am Hurricane/ Under Your Spell." Clock stops at St. Peter's gate (Hate Be You Dreadful Day) Way past midnight (Cant Wait) Looks like I'm moving/standing still (Not Dark Yet) 2 am booty call (Cry Awhile)Darling, tell me the truth, how much time I got?"She says, "You got all the time in the world, honey (Handy Dandy) (I Feel A Change Coming On)/4 am in Hurricane/ Under Your Spell? / Watch time in Talkin WW3/ radio on and off in reverse MMF and Key West/ Johnson sworn in 2:38. Round about midnight we'll be on the same side (Beyond Horizon) I'm still in this all night cafe (Watch River)

Barefoot:

Bells: Fallout shelter bell (Talkin WW3) Ring them bells (Oh Mercy) See me returning (Dylan returns to Zimmy?) " Feel it in the wind. Ring down when you're ready Im waiting for you" (When The Knight Comes Falling From This Guy) Ain't dead yet my bell still rings (ERK)

The Bend: All dreams vanished, dont know whats around bend (DINTE)

Bill: Billy (Pat Garett) Bills put down (Frankie/Judas)/ Uncle Tom still workin' for Uncle Bill/ Sweet william on death bed lay (Scarlet Town/ McKinley in MMF)

Black and white: His favorite palette to alternate in concert. The band's outfits, stage design, etc. "Easy to tell wrong from right" (BD Blues) The Son, The Moon, The Day, The Knight? Gray? (Man named Gray?) All things are beautiful in their time, the black and the white (Scarlet Town)

Blue Eyed Son: Man of piece, Hard Rain

The Boss: The pressures down, the boss ain't here he gone North (Sweetheart Like) Boss-Tin town (Highlands) Have I surrendered to the will of God, or am I still acting like the boss?(Are Ready) Late one night when The Boss came home (Tin Angel)

Brother: My brother failed to come home, The same as my father before him (NC Blues) Blood on the Tracks production with his brother's assistance.

Burning: (Somethings burning baby), I met a young girl her body was burning (Hard Rain) When cities on fire burning flesh of men (DINTE) You too shall burn (Rolln Tumblin) Dont you burn (When Returns) We're going all the way 'til the wheels fall off and burn 'til The Son peels the paint and the seat Covers fade and the water mock a sin dies." (BG)I got nothin' left to burn, Don't know if I saw you if I would kiss you or kill you it probably wouldn't matter to you anyhow (Standing/ Doorway) Well my house is on fire, burnin' to this guy (til I Fell in Love With You)

Dawn/evening: When rooster crows, look out window I'll be gone(DTTIA) And the day is a-gettin' dark ( One Too/Mornings)

Death of Narrator:Theres no water in your well (B. Hollis Brown) Pray I don't die of thirst 2 feet from the well (Under Spell) You never miss your water til you well runs dry (Stick Together) (No Good)(Fixin To Die) (In My Time Of Dying) (See My Grave Kept Clean) I've been conjuring up all these long dead souls from their crumblin' tombs (Rollin Tumblin) The Knight We Called It A Day and Beyond Here Lies Nothin music videos/ You ever seen a ghost? No but youve heard of them (Spirit on Water) I'm still in this all night- cafe (Watch River) Eye is like shooting star (Oh Mercy death? In MUMMTGMTY) Two big bags of deadman's bones/ A childish dream is a deathless need/ noble truth sacred creed(TweedleD/TD)I dont carry dead weight no flash in the pan/ set straight Im a union man (Cry A While) how much poison did they inhale (2x2) Pellets of poison are flooding their waters (Hard Rain) Poison headache (Pledging Time) (World Gone Wrong)All dreams vanished, dont know whats around bend (DINTE) you and me we had completeness/ I can finish this alone, honey (Driftin/ Shore) We're going all the way 'til the wheels fall off and burn 'til The Son peels the paint and the seat Covers fade and the water mock a sin dies." (BG) Dead Man when will you arise? (DMDM)The ghost of our old love has not gone away/ Got nothin' left to burn, Don't know if I saw you if I would kiss you or kill you it probably wouldn't matter to you anyhow (Standing/ Doorway) Well I’m strolling through the lonely graveyard of my mind, left my life with you somewhere back there along the line (Cant Wait) He'll say, "Nothin' neither 'live nor dead" (Handy Dandy)

Diamonds: Highway (Down the Highway) of diamonds with nobody on it (Hard Rain) Thinkin about diamonds (Isis)

Doctor/DOC: Talkin WW3, "Doctor said McKinley your death is on the wall." (Key West) Best friend dr wont tell me what I got (Tom Thumb) DOC (DOConceit)

Doorway: Dont Stand in Doorway/Block up Hall (TTAAC) From the crossroads of my doorstep my eyes start to fade, and I turn my head back to the room where my love and I have laid (One Too/Mornings) You left me standing in the doorway cryin' (SITD)

Dreams: Talking WW3 Series of Dreams, Bob Dylan's Dream, 115th dream (MLK bday 1/15) Mt Freud with dreams (MoVOY) A childish dream is a deathless need/ noble truth sacred creed (Tweedle Dee/D) When we were made in dreams (BiT) All dreams vanished, dont know whats around bend (DINTE) city that dreams (Ring Bells) Adjust to what, a dream that bust? (Clean Cut Kid)

Father: My brother failed to come home, The same as my father before him (NC Blues) Come mothers and fathers throughout the land and don't criticize what you can't understand(TTAAC) Why must uou criticize? Same thing my Father do, I can do likewise. (In The Garden) Servant dont wanna make love in Father's house (Driftin/Shore)

Female Perspective: Marrried John Thomas, a miner, 3 children (NC Blues) I'm just like Anne Frank like Indiana Jones (I C Multitudes) I'm not there I'm gone (INT) The Gutter: Poet died (Hard Rain) Go back find a pretty boy (False Profit) I've felt transient joys (When Deal Goes Down) Transparent woman transparent dress, suits well must confess. (Goodbye J Reed) KOL cover, Knight We Called Day/ Beyond Here videos/ Depart from me this moment I told her with my voice, will secretly accept you, and together we'll fly south (As I Went Morning)

Frankie: (Frankie Lee?) Character in Frankie and Albert, Nettie Moore

Grease: Football man with greasy hands (Shall Be Free) Gonna leave a greasy trail (Nettie Moore)

Fountain:

The heist: Isis, Lily/Jack Hearts

The hill: Chased me a woman up the hill (Shall Be Free) Scarlet Town is under the hill (ST) I'm high on the hill (Spirit) hills of mystery (BiT)10000 men on a hill silver/ gold (10000 men/ False Profit ref?)

Honey (Baby? Gal?Mom?): So long Honey, Babe (Dont Think Twice) Has airplane/ passenger train (Honey Just Allow Me One More Chance) Gal named Honey stole my money (SAM) I can finish this alone, honey (Driftin/ Shore) Brownesville girl, youre my honey love (BG) oh honey after all these years still the one (Cant Wait) They said it was the land of milk and honey now they say it's the land of money (Unbelievable)

Ice :I Shall Be Free (Ice shall be free) Isis/Aye, Sis/ Ice, Sis And the fire in the air, it felt frozen 'til a man come to speak, and he said in one week that number 11 was closing

Jack: A roe, Of Hearts, Frost, Fate, Blackjack Davey

Jim: Big Jim (Lily/Jack Hearts), Jim Jones

Jfk: Telephone would not stop rininging, President Kennedy asking my friend Bob what do we need to make country grow/My friend John, Bridgette Bardot "Turn and run faster when the fast bullets fly?"(MoW) ?Foreshadowing Dylan's reaction to status/JFK?

Joe: (Joan/ Joni?) Joey, Diamond Joe, Set'em up Joe (Scarlet Town) Saxophone Joe (Country Pie)

John: John Wes LEE HARding, John Thomas, a miner (NC Blues) Lost john on railtoad track (Nettie Moore) (Roll on John) (John Brown)

Judas: Of old//Of fold? (Masters War) Judas Priest (Frankie Lee/ JP) Thinkin many dark hour Jesus betrayed by kiss, Judas Iscariot have God on side? (With God on Side)

Judge: Tell the judge I said it was alright (BD Blues) Come mothers and fathers throughout the land, And don't criticize What you can't understand(TTAAC) The judge he holds a grudge gonna call on you, badly built walks in stilts (Most Likely You Go) The judge in Drifters Escape

The Knight: In the darkness of my knight (GFTNC) As the night comes in a-fallin'/ The silent knight will shatter (One Too/ Mornings) I see the shadow of a man baby, making you blue/Who is he baby, and what's he to you/ Why are your eyes just staring off in the knight/ Mid knight rain (When Knight/Fallin) The Knight is filled with Shadows, the years are filled with early doom (Rollin Tumblin) Fly away little bird, fly by Knight like the (ERK) To knight, no light will shine on me (One More Knight) In the lonely Knight in blinking stardust of pale blue light (Born In Time)

Lady: little lady by my side (Shall Be Free) The light: No use turnin on that light I never known (DTTIA) Brightness of my day (GFTNC) (Sad eyed Lady) (Desolation Row) First Lady aint feeling too good (MMF)

Lee: Frankie Lee, Henry/ Stagger Lee

The Light: The landscape is glowin', gleamin' in the golden light of day(Rollin Tumblin) Shine your light, move it on (ROJ) To knight, no light will shine on me (One More Knight) Lightning struck courthouse (Drifters Escape) Daylight sneakin through the window (Watch River) I've got my back to The Son the Light is too intense/ See what everybody in world is against (Sugar Baby)In the lonely Knight in blinking stardust of pale blue light (Born In Time)

Lily: Lillies that bloom (Ring Bells) Lily of West/ Lily, Rosemary, Jack (LRaJoH)

The Line: Where winds hit heavy on The Borderline (GFTNC) Lone Ranger and Tonto riding down The Line (BD Blues) The one road we traveled on would shatter and split (BD Dream) The Line it is drawn the curse it is cast (TTAAC) Key west is on the horizon line (KW) Across the divide(Beyond the horizon) I go right to the edge I go right to the end I go right where all things lost are made good again (ICM) I have the vision to cause division. (Aint Gonna Go Hell) Been in brawl, now feeling the wall (Spirit on Water) "The ghost of our old love has not gone away" (Standing/ Doorway) You got a way of tearing the world apart (Sugar Baby) Sorry for not breakin' down no bedroom door to get at you (Maybe Someday) My back is already to the wall, where can I run?(Dead Man) Cuttin of fences (Where Teardrops Fall) I feel like the whole world got me pinned up against the fence(til I Fell in Love With You) The walls of pride are high and wide, can’t see over to the other side (Cold Irons) Left my life with you somewhere back there along the line (Cant Wait)

Mary: Dresses in green (SAM)/Queen Mary shes my friend I believe I'll go see her again. (JLAW) / Mistress Mary by William's death bed (Scarlet Town) Take A Message to Mary/ Mary and The Soldier/ Mary From Wild Moore. /I was riding in a buggy with Miss Mary Jane (Trying Get Heaven)

Masks: Masters/War, Scorcese Rolling Thunder film, Halloween Bootleg 6, Wig (I Shall Be Free) face like mask (Man Black Coat) take off your mask (When Returns)

The Meadow: She was there in the meadow (Love Sick?) Lovers in the meadow (Love Sick

Mountain: How long exist before washed to sea (BITW) I'll reflect from the mountain so all souls can see it/ 12 misty mountains (Hard Rain) Up on Black Mountain day detroit fell (ERK)Climbed mountain of swords with bare feet (False Prophet) Go tell real story (G Jimmy Reed)

Naked: "High flyin bare naked out the window" (I Shall Be Free)

North: Cold in the North (Isis) North country fair where the wind hits heavy on borderline (Girl From North Country) (North Country Blues) Anne Frank in Attic (I C Multitudes) Wicked Wind on upper deck (Senior)

Ocean/Sea: (Audience/fans?) I'll stand on the ocean until I start sinkin(Hard Rain) The ocean took my baby from me/ Meet me in the middle of the ocean leave this highway (Down the Highway) And admit that the waters around you have grown (TTAAC)The Son is sinking over banks of deep blue sea. (Workingman B) Beyond the sea/shifting sands (K West)

Oxford Town/ Mississippi, around the bend

Paradise: Eternity (Frankie Lee/ Judas P.) Key West is paradise divine (Key West) This love can split me in two, I wanna be with you in paradise (Spirit on Water) Oh, the French girl, she's in paradise and a drunken man is at the wheel (Dark Eyes)

Poison: Pellets of poison are flooding their waters (Hard Rain) Poison headache (Pledging Time) how much poison did they inhale (2x2)

Pony: young child beside a dead pony (Hard Rain) Got a new pony (Po' knee?) Lucifer (New Pony) Somebody beating on a dead horse (Man Black Coat)

Rags: (Gags that silence) Hattie Carrol, Stuck in Mobile, Nashville Skyline rag, rags to riches (Every Grain) Rainbow: Young girl gave me a rainbow (Hard Rain)

Ruby: Ruby lips (Rubicon) Ruby was in the backyard hanging Clothes, she had her red hair tied back

Saints: Saint coming through (baby blue) Saint Annie (Queen j)St. james (mmf/ McTell) Saint Peter (MOVOY)

Scarlet: Charlotte’s a harlot, dresses in scarlet (SAM)/Scarlet Town/ Scarlet Johannsen

Shadows: In Knight/ Shadow Kingdom Are falling (Not Dark Yet) looking at my shadow, watching the clouds up above (Dirt Road)

Slim: Two timing Slim, who's ever heard of him? (SAM) Guitar slim (MMF)

The Son: I've got my back to The Son the Light is too intense/ see what everybody in world is against (Sugar Baby) The Sun don't shine above the ground (Oxford Town), Came in from the East with The Sun in my eyes. (Bob Dylan)/ I can see for myself The Son is sinking over banks of deep blue sea. (Workingman B) The Son can burn your brains right out (Long Wasted) They killed him on alter of Rising Son (MMF) Crying like fire in The Son (Baby Blue) I've seen the Son rise, I've seen the Don (Give Myself To You) We're going all the way 'til the wheels fall off and burn 'til The Son peels the paint and the seat Covers fade and the water mock a sin dies." (BG)

Thunder: Heard the sound of the thunder that roared out a warning (Hard Rain) Thunder on the mountain If I turn a deaf ear to the thunderin' sky,(What good am I?)

Tom: Uncle Tom (Scartlet Town)/ Tom Thumb (JLTTB) Tom Payne (As Went Morning)

The Tomb: (TOOM) I boke into the tomb (Isis) Lily/Jack Hearts vault?

Train: Freight Train Blues, Fell asleep on train had dream (Bob Dylan's Dream) Long distance train (Where You Tonight) Slow Train Comin)People on the platforms Waiting for the trains (Trying Get Heaven)

Wheel: And don't speak too soon for the wheel's still in spin (Times AChangin) This Wheel's on fire/This wheel shall explode (TWSE) Oh, the French girl, she's in paradise and a drunken man is at the wheel (Dark Eyes)

"I feel nothing for their game where beauty goes unrecognized"

Courtesy, kindness and dialogue, folks. Courtesy, kindness and dialogue.

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u/EzraDawson41 — 12 days ago

Bob Dill In: A Fan Theory

Bob Dylan= Bob Dill In. Sexual innuendo/ trickster mission statement/ wordplay hint.

What in the devil could it all possibly mean? Maybe we'll get it, maybe we won't. Maybe tonight, maybe here.

Hope this isn't too cringey, folks. Sorry about the length. I hope you find this fan theory/ analysis amusing and it helps illuminate Dylan's work and intentions.

I suspect there's a perfect finished plan. Greatest trick ever under The Son. He is one of the wisest, wittiest, funniest visionaries in human history.

I've recently been testing a hypothesis that unifies and illuminates Dylan's lyrics and intentions. I've been challenging it myself and it just seems to fit so consistently. Though conflicted, I felt the need to ring them bells for the community and Bob himself. I suspected a riddlemaker might feel relieved to know he made a solvable riddle. Thank you so much, Zimmy. (Just in case, ya know ;))

I'm not suggesting "I cracked the case, boys!" I could be wrong... That disease of conceit runs strong, my friends.

Lastly, shout out to the community. I found so many puzzle pieces using your experienced knowledge. I suspect alot of this will be stuff fans have already discovered, and I certainly don't have all the pieces yet, but I think I have a hazy idea of a final picture/ some of his intentions. Let's excercise that Socratic/ scientific method.

Pardon the somewhat rushed shorthand, but I figured our community wouldn't mind it a little rough and rowdy.

Bob Dill In: A Theory

Robert Zimmerman creates Bob Dylan as his alter ego for protection, narrative, and performance art.

Every public appearance, interview, award ceremony are Kaufman-esque performance art sketches. A skeptical working class hero joker/riddler that can turn a couple minutes into a comedic, witty, philosophical art skit that makes a statement and stamps into history his current project's chapter/ persona.

Every album's production reflects his criticisms/ appreciations for those genres and writing styles. He loses money/ status and prioritizes his vision. Production for 80's albums, country aesthetic, trendy/fast lane city culture, bizarre/ dissonant sequencing (Self Portrait), cowriters (Does Ire) all reflect American culture/ current administrations/ Dylans state in that chapter of the performance art narrative. He wasn't trying to write Big Girl, Hard Rain, Hurricane, Tambourine Man, etc. and failed. It was all intentional.

All songs are in same universe and can reference each other.

The narration from "You're No Good" to "See Error's Theme" is Dylan's perspective, the reverse is Zimmerman's. (Time is going backwards, (Ring Them Bells) Is the whole thing going backwards(What Was It You Wanted) So much older then, (My Back Pages) Turnin back the years (My Own Version of You)).

One ending seems copacetic with events, one ends with exhistential nihilism, dread, and anxiety (Reflection/ acceptance VS Wanna lay down and die).

The songs are the simultaneous perspectives of the audience, Bob, and Powers That Be emphasizing understanding.

Each song/album seems to be a series of reoccuring dreams that simultaneously tells its own narrative, a micro version of the JFK trauma/ The Knight narrative, and serves as stepping stones for past/future events.

3's are important numbers. (As are 5 and 7) Consider the triangle on the Nashville Skyline cover, 303 RARW dates, seemingly using 3 year phase cycles(?)Three Angels, etc... The songs are simultaneously 3 perspectives directed at 3 groups-

A) Audience/ Peers B) God/Masters/Shadows/ Zimmy C) Self/ Bob/Zimmerman (Depending on direction of narrative.)

Frightened of his status/ violence against civil rights figures (JFK, Medger Evers, Gandhi, Jesus) he self sabotages in intentional, orchestrated a performance art (The motorcycle accident didnt litterally happen) where the wicked messenger/ ragman/ shadows scare the mockingbird/ knight/ Son (Dylan) into faking that he's sailing(Selling) away. He's really just jumping down a manhole and laying low to get the Shadows off his back.

A clandestine working class hero telling his story in underground railroad esque code. (Anagrams, word association, using words that bleed into eachother/ can be phonetically enunciated and emphasized to change the meanings) In a utiliterian sense where the ends justify the means, he abandons the hurricane approach and makes his case in a non abbrassive way, staying safe, excercising empathy/ understanding, and more effectively influencing change.

WATCH FOR HIS WORD GAMES :)

A very short list of easter eggs from Juarez:

Sinatra albums spell "sitn fat." Rainy Day Women (#12 and 35) = Ray Need A Woman, JFK 35th president Bob Dylans 115th dream, 1/15 mlks bday/ Dream speech association I Contain Multitudes ( ICM I see 'em) John WasLEE HARding Key West- Bowie/ Kanye visionaries Rough and Rowdys Ways- "rough fan rowed aways," "Rough end, rowed aways." Tempest underline "Am pissed" Christmas In The Heart= Christ, Missin' The Art Two riders, two writers When The Knight Comes Falling From This Guy Moderns Times= MT, empty/ My Darn Times Time Out of Mind= Toom In Fidel's Mississippi= Mrs. Hippy Sum Her Days Buy and Buy Loan Some Tape, Lose Float her tomb, Much to ask Shadows in the Knight Changing of The Guards (Gods) Slowed Rain Coming Desire=Does Ire Nashville skyline= with a southern accent Nashville's Killin Mother of Muses=MOM Black Rider= Black Writer Crossing Ruby Con

Characters: Robert Zimmerman, Bob Dylan,Tin Angel, female persona, The Son, The Knight, tramp, the moon, robin hood, mockingbird,drifter, joker, thief, man in black coat, lone ranger, Taunto, Thomas, judge, John, Joey, Jim, Slim, Honey, father, Billy, captain, Sam, shadows, wicked messenger, Lee, Lady, Mary, Lily, Ruby, red dress, the sea, audience, Frankie, Albert.

^Many characters are different names for same people. I think at different times the triangle flips and Bob, Powers That Be, and audience alternate at top of pyramid with authority.

Zimmerman seems to be atheistic to organized religions but agnostic to the idea there's more to this, such as a God of non-intervention, simulation theory, reincaration, etc. To Dylan, Zimmerman is God, Father, Judge on the upper deck/stilts with the Shadows, Anne Frank journaling in the attic, etc..

Gospel years are Gonzo, Kaufman, Pink Floyd "The Wall" esque thheater/performance art where searching for meaning is challenged by false believers, hypocrites, strange beliefs, manipulation, deceit. (Aint Gonna, Gotta serve, In The Garden, When He Returns, Slow Train) "Never could learn to drink that blood and call it wine." "I can manipulate people as well as anybody." "Don't let an egg get layed in there by something you can't see..."

He seems to be in the camp that views Republicans/ Democrats as 2 sides of same coin that are corrupted by campaign finance system and are corruptablefriends/ prisoners of money/ power/ the system rather than their working class campaign pledges.

Rough and Rowdy Ways cover shows the Creator, Zimmerman, and his anima/female persona in back left. The Bob Dylan character stands at oft mentioned jukebox, the two dancers from the Oh Mercy cover (Frankie and Albert?) in the center. It excentuates how the Lady in yellow has a full behind/ Dylan/ Tramp does not. All night cafe, heaven/ hell/ limbo/ the setting of important events between Knocked Out Low Dead/Down In The Grave and Oh Mercy where Dylan kills Zimmerman and Zimmerman kills Dylan. (Cover art, Six feet from the well, poison headaches, repeated references to Frankie and Albert character in Nettie Moore, GAIBTY, Shooting Star, Death Is Not End, Something dead men know in Silvio, Tin Angel).

Rough and Rowdy tour sets repeat for second cycle of 3 years, reflecting not just how he can rearrange the songs/ emphasize different lyrics to change the same songs, but also reflecting how the working class enable authority to serve us the same slop (Few changes to set with huge catalogue) over and over again (Biden/Trump) by voting with our wallets/ attendence. Ends the tour in Abilene. (Enabling)

Zimmy hints at being on autism spectrum (She Belongs to Me, Self Portrait SP/ ASP= Aspergers).

He also hints at gender fluidity. Jungian archetypes? Maybe Bob is but Zimmy isnt? Vice versa? (Jet Pilot final lyric, Cate Blanchet casting, Anne Frank/girl hiding in attic analogy in Multitudes, boy and girl baked in pie UTRS, Man In Me, Tin Angel, Sweetheart Like You...)

He constructivelly, intentionally, and cathartically trolls by going folk> electric> country> retired hero> stadium star> hippie troubadour> co-writer > greatest hits divorce crisis> religious > secular dollar worship>covers> over production and melancholly> Production/ sampling> Christmas> Sinatra etc.

A.I. cowritten album next?

Sinatra trilogy has a red herring of nonchalance/devil may care attitude (Sitn Fat) but deceptively covers gender identity, incels, Zim/Dylan in narrative feeling locked out of power, ribbing the repetitive monotone nature of the genre he helped evolve past while accentuating aspects of the genre/ songs he appreciates. Further evidence of how sequencing, arrangement and phonetic diction/emphasis reveal his deeper intentions. The project is a useful demonstration of how his Tempest/ Christmas voices were intentional for the songs he was creating. Certain songs call for certain kinds of voices.

The Sinatra farewell performance I interpret as genuine respect for being an interesting person and pleasant vocalist, but also honking his nose and ribbing him; victory lapping in a witty way. He demonstrates his own songwriting, his musicianship, and how his own voice can be a unique, devastatingly expressive, bone-chilling instrument in more ways than Sinatra could) a great example of deepers layers of intention, meaning, humor.

Narrative as I'm seeing it so far, as concisely as time allows right now:

Zimmy is frightened by his status and the violence incited against other leaders (Pawn In Your Game, Canadee IO, MMF) and decides not to stand naked and vulnerable but to stay as he is (Restless Farewell) in a tricky way. It ain't him, babe. He starts self sabatoging his popularity but using Underground Railroad codes like word association, symbolism, metaphors, code, phonetically similar words that could be emphasized or enunciated to express intentions/ double entendres.

Dylan has effectively been ragged, (Hattie Carrol, Ragman, N.Skyline Rag) silenced and frightened, but continues to open many a door, inciting rumor and conversation, and being a friend to the poor. He tells his gifted peers, nay, Kings and Queens to rise up because he is no martyr (They say that youre planning to put me down) but will clandestinely be supportive (St Augustine) and stay with you. He sees thousands who could overcome the darkness. Dylan and Zimmy have conflicting priorities, motivations, and risk toletances. (In The Garden) "Criticize/ same thing Father do I can do likewise.. Did they see what that power was worth... rose from dead... Multitude put crown on head/ slipped away to quiet place instead."

Dylan retires to a quiet life in the mountains with family, simple living (Time Passes Slowly), but hears the call of the sea; vice, duty, restlessness are temptations luring him back on the road. He effectively goes out to the bar with friends in 1974-76 and sentimentally seeks community. He is distanced further from his family, comfort, sense of purpose and balance. 16 years... Long distance train continues through crisis of faith in Christ, his ideals and himself 1979-1981. Seemingly returning to Jewish faith 1982-85, followed by worship of capitol and recognition. (Again in Dylan's story, not IRL Zimmy's, perhaps) (Empire Burlesque) A struggle for control of steering wheel ensues, and it seems Dylan/ Zimmy are fighting for control of direction. In Knocked Out Low Dead, Oh Mercy, GAIBTY, Down in the Grave we are shown events like Frankie and Albert, Oh Mercy/ KOL/ DITG covers, shooting star... is one telling the other lets stick together? A spirit/ ghost/ resurrection? He rises from the TOOM renewed for the 21st century.

If this theory is correct, an A.I. cowritten album may be on the horizon, friends.

So much more I would like to say that would add jelly beans to this theory's credibility. I think you guys get the gist and I've taken quite enough of your time. I will continue organizing my thoughts more concisely on my Youtube channel.

Thanks so much, Jokerman. Bravo. I can't believe after all these years (Well...34...) we didn't know you better than that.

Hope this fan theory amuses y'all in one way or another. Sincere regards, thanks for your time!

-Yet another person who thinks he's really found him

u/EzraDawson41 — 14 days ago