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5 StAG — does mother’s naturalisation before child’s birth defeat the claim?

Filing §5 StAG as a descendant (case group 4). Looking for input from anyone with comparable cases or direct BVA experience.

Facts:

  1. Grandmother born 1931 in Frankfurt, German by birth, German parents.
  2. Married a British citizen on 10 October 1953 (post-1 April 1953, so no loss under §17 No. 6 RuStAG — already inoperative under Art. 3(2) GG).
  3. 26 November 1953: registered as a Citizen of the UK & Colonies under s.6(2) British Nationality Act 1948 via Form R.3 — the spousal-facilitated route available exclusively to wives of British subjects. I have the original Home Office form with the dated registration stamp.
  4. Apparent §25 RuStAG loss of German citizenship on that date.
  5. Father born July 1955 in the UK, legitimate child of the German mother and British father.
  6. I was born 1984.

The legal argument:

My grandmother lost German citizenship 20 months before my father was born. The cover letter argues this is not the operative cause of non-transmission:

Even if she had retained German citizenship, the pre-1975 patrilineal rule would have barred her from transmitting it to a legitimate child of a foreign father in any event. The §25 loss is therefore legally redundant; the discriminatory rule is the operative cause, and that is exactly what §5 StAG was enacted to remedy.

There’s also a secondary point worth flagging: the Form R.3 naturalisation route was itself a product of gendered nationality law (only available to wives), so even her “voluntary” 1953 act sits inside the broader frame of discrimination §5 addresses.

My questions:

  1. Has anyone had a §5 case group 1 or 4 claim approved or rejected where the German parent voluntarily naturalised abroad before the child’s birth?
  2. Does current BVA practice accept the counterfactual (“patrilineal rule would have barred transmission anyway”) argument?
  3. Does the gendered nature of the s.6(2) BNA 1948 / Form R.3 route get any weight at the BVA?

Documents are clean (German Geburtsurkunde, UK civil records, original Form R.3, all dates corroborated). Deadline 19 Aug 2031.

Any input appreciated — particularly from people who’ve seen BVA decisions on the pre-birth-naturalisation point.

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