u/Far_Significance3180

Edit: I am 24f, unsure how old they are and they are nonbinary they/him. Tbh I’m mostly just posting this to see if I need a reality check, if I’m being used for attention and ego and I need to distance myself from this person, or if there’s actually a sliver of mutual interest. I have misread these things before and gotten myself into bad spots. I wouldn’t act on it at the moment bc they’re a coworker and taken, I’m just trying to test my radar and improve it so I don’t get myself hurt by overthinking and reading into things with guys I actually can pursue.

I’ve been working with them for close to a year. From what I’ve observed, they get louder and more boisterous when I am around. Idk if they want to make me laugh because they like me, or because they want to be funny in general. They look at me most when we’re speaking in a group. They look at me when they make a joke in a group, or when they’re across the room talking out loud to themselves and trying to be funny. I have caught them looking at me from across the room/when I’m not looking or when I have my back turned, and they look away when I catch them. Their torso is turned towards me when they’re talking to someone else, and they lean towards me on the fence with both hands when we’re talking through it. (We work where there are fences between us sometimes).

They get red sometimes when they first start talking to me. They will engage in nervous body language when we’re talking to each other, like stroking their neck. They switch between avoiding eye contact completely and making hard eye-contact. They laugh unusually loudly whenever I say something even kinda funny. Once they casually lifted their shirt and revealed a tattoo on his lower abdomen when we were talking in private and about something work related. It was kinda weird I don’t know why someone would do that in the middle of a normal work conversation unless they were trying to flex.

Recently I vented about something on IG and they were one of two people to reach out offering support. It was meaningful support too not just half assed. We had a personal conversation, but idk if it was just friendly support or not. They always watch all of my stories. The other day I messaged them for advice on house project stuff and they were kinda dry. It takes a long time for them to respond to messages and they post on their story in between/when they haven’t replied. Conversations in person feel a little awkward. Most of the time I start them but I feel like they frequently talk out loud because they don’t know how to start a conversation with me and wants me to interject based on what they’re saying. They oscillates between engaging in the conversation and being energetic, and coming off a little cold.

What’s the verdict?

This discourse is old at this point, but my god she had no redeeming qualities and no remorse for any of her actions, and coming here to see people liking her and defending her pisses me off so I want to rant. Gonna go down the list of why I found it satisfying to see her get axed in movie world, even if it’s morally grey in the real world.

1. The obvious point, she gets everyone killed. There is no such thing as a good intention if you are leading five other people to an unexplored cavern system, without telling anyone, and then lying about it to said people you are luring into mortal danger. You want to be the first to map that cave? Fine. Tell others outside the expedition, and ask the people you’re bringing if they’re okay with that. Absolutely no excuse, unless you are solely doing it for your own benefit and ego. Monsters or not caving is already a deadly sport that has taken lives, even in well known systems. If she was experienced, she would fully comprehend how dangerous it was. BuT sHe DiDn’T mEaN tOo…every single action she took was a deliberate choice that put those girls in danger. She is responsible for their murders, as much as Sarah is for hers. The monsters just eat to live. Juno has far more culpability. And then, she NEVER apologizes or takes accountability. Instead, when she is rightfully called out on her actions, she doubles down and places blame on the others by saying “they like to take risks” and “she was doing it for them yada yada.” She shoulda been smacked right there. Her sudden regard for keeping other people safe at the end of the movie only makes sense if she is acting sheerly out of guilt and protection of her own conscious, rather than genuine care for her “friend’s” lives.

2. The cheating. This isn’t a discussion of Paul, this is a discussion of Juno, so Paul’s guilt in the matter isn’t relevant. Anyhow, Juno fucks her close friend’s husband, while knowing they have a child, and better yet being part of that child’s life. After Sarah’s family dies, instead of facing her shitty actions she runs like the piece of garbage with legs she is. She has the GAUL to invite Sarah on the trip and pretend like she gives a single shit about Sarah’s well being…while wearing a necklace Sarah’s dead husband probably gave her during the affair!!! The audacity of this fake bitch!!! If you cared about Sarah you wouldn’t have fucked the father of her child!!! Then, then, when everyone is mad at her for bringing them to the death cave against their will, the crash comes up and Juno says “She wasn’t the only one who lost things in that crash,” making HER the victim instead of the widow and grieving mother!!! Like what???!!! Paul wasn’t yours to lose but you just went ahead and helped yourself, so you feel entitled to a pity party???!!! Again, I think her adamancy to save Sarah in the end wasn’t because she cared about Sarah, but because then she would’ve had to live with the guilt of ruining Sarah’s life even more than it already was.

3. Beth isn’t as heinous, because it was the heat of the moment and an accident. Again, they wouldn’t have been in that situation had she not taken them to that cave against their will, but I digress. Her actions following Beth do say something, though. Instead of being transparent with the others about how Beth died, she once again covers her own ass, avoiding accountability and staying vague. When Sarah tests Juno and directly asks if Beth died the first time, Juno lies. She doesn’t apologize. She doesn’t explain. She covers her own ass. Her one last shot at proving she is actually there for anyone but herself, and she fails.

Sarah is already mentally ill and emotionally unstable when she enters that cave. Unwillingly (BECAUSE OF JUNO) she is put through something worse than hell, she loses all of her best friends (BECAUSE OF JUNO), and then she looses her marriage in a different way (BECAUSE OF JUNO). We see Sarah slowly unravel into something inhumane through circumstances we would all break in. She’s a good human, destroyed. To me, Juno read as a cold, manipulating, narcissistic sociopath the whole way through (they do better under pressure maybe why she was the best fighter just saying) and that is why I felt satisfied when she got the chopping block. You could argue that Sarah’s actions are akin to reactive abuse, no?

When people defend Juno’s character it reminds me of every bad person who gets away with their despicable shit because some people find them likable, competent, and hot. Except in this movie she didn’t get away with it, which is why it might’ve felt so good to see her get her just desserts. The end.