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Every time I rewatch Gilmore Girls, I struggle to get through the “Asia” party Lorelai throws for Rory in S7E2. The whole thing feels so heavily orientalized and fetishized that it genuinely makes me uncomfortable, and I usually end up skipping most of it.

I know this episode aired almost 20 years ago, and obviously I understand that some things were treated very differently on TV back then. But that context doesn’t make the scene any less uncomfortable to watch now.

What frustrates me even more is that such an important moment in the storyline happens during this party: Christopher calls Lorelai, leaves a voicemail, and Rory hears it and realizes that Lorelai slept with her dad. It’s a pretty significant moment between Rory and Lorelai, so I can’t just skip the entire scene without missing something important.
I just wish this conversation hadn’t been wrapped in this over-the-top, stereotypical mashup of “Asian” cultures. It makes an otherwise important scene so unpleasant for me to rewatch.

Honestly… Rory is so pathetic in this scene. She really needs to realize that the world doesn’t revolve around her.

Maybe I’m a bit sensitive because it’s been a while that I’ve been struggling to find a job, and it’s honestly killing me, but honestly…

Rory in S6E9, heading directly to the Stamford Eagle Gazette to meet and talk with Mr. Woltz without an appointment, insisting, bothering, and pushing him to make time to listen to her and give her a job because she thinks it’s the best place for her… WTF??

I know, of course, it’s a fictional drama, and I’m probably overreacting… But I rarely see a character who’s so egocentric, believing that the world revolves around her while being completely ignorant of her own naivety and privilege.

Her attitude toward Mr. Woltz is absolutely, unrealistically ridiculous and disrespectful. And she’s using this opportunity just to prove that Mitchum is wrong.

And it was already such a great opportunity just to have Mr. Woltz as a reference, but instead she just showed up at his office without an appointment and ended up screwing herself over.

I really love Rory, but the more time goes by and the more I rewatch the show, the harder it is for me to watch Rory in Seasons 5 and 6…

Sorry, I’m just struggling so much with my own life right now, and nothing is going as easily as I expected. There are so few things that I actually have any control over. So this scene makes me so angry.

I’ve watched gilmore girls several times, but only now, during Season 5(especially Ep 7-9)I’m noticing a pattern that I find really interesting.

Richard and Emily are separated, and both Lorelai and Rory get involved in trying to reconcile them. They have separate dinners with each of them, trying to push them back together. Around the same time, Richard and Emily organize the Yale alumni party, supposedly for Rory, but really as a way to introduce her to suitable boys. The fact that Rory already has a boyfriend is almost irrelevant to them. They think they know what’s best for her, so they try to steer her life in that direction.

At the same time, Lorelai has been helping Christopher with Gigi after Sherry leaves. Then Rory secretly goes to Christopher and tells him to stay out of Lorelai’s life. She does this without Lorelai’s knowledge. Whether Lorelai herself wants Christopher in her life or wants to build some kind of relationship with him isn’t really the point. Rory decides that Christopher’s involvement is bad for her mother, so she takes action herself.

What I find interesting is that these storylines happen almost simultaneously.

In all of them, people aren’t really listening to what the person involved actually wants. Instead, they’re acting based on what they believe is best. They “help” others, but in doing so, they often try to guide, influence, or even control the outcome.

Of course, the situations aren’t identical, and there are important differences between them. But they all seem to revolve around the same idea: helping someone by pushing them toward what you think is the right choice.

It’s not necessarily malicious. Most of the time it comes from love, concern, or good intentions. But it’s fascinating how often characters in this show blur the line between helping someone and trying to manage their life for them.

The more I rewatch the series, the more I feel like this is one of its central themes. When it comes to “family thing”… hard to judge.

I really don’t like the reaction of Lorelai when it comes to Jess and how she treats him…

It’s the same thing in Season 4 Episode 13. Jess comes back to pick up his old car, it breaks down, and he ends up stuck in Stars Hollow. (I don’t think he had a plan to stay in Stars Hollow, I think he just wanted to get his car not knowing it to anyone and to leave). He tells Luke something along the lines of: “You help people even when they don’t want your help. You try to fix people according to what you think they should be. And then you act like you’re the good guy for doing it.”

Was it harsh? Absolutely. But was he completely wrong? Not really.

Looking at that episode and the context of the conversation, Luke was literally talking about how he needed to “solve the problem” for Liz because he didn’t like TJ. In other words, the “problem” was TJ himself. That’s definitely crossing a line.

Of course, if someone hurt my best friend, I’d be upset and angry too. But honestly, if the person who said that to Luke had been anyone other than Jess, I think Lorelai’s reaction would have been very different.

The moment she realizes it’s Jess, she drops everything and rushes over to give him a piece of her mind. That’s what bothers me about her attitude toward him. It feels like once she decides she doesn’t like someone, she stops looking at the situation objectively. In her mind, that person immediately becomes the villain, and everything they do is automatically wrong.

I’m not saying Jess handled the conversation well, because he definitely didn’t. But in that particular situation, I don’t think Lorelai even considered whether he might have had a point. She just heard “Jess upset Luke” and went straight into attack mode. And honestly…I think she just got a chance to say directly to Jess “get away from here and dont touch my daughter”