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Potentially unpopular opinion about Rory "cheating" with Dean

I think its quite telling how much fault people put on Rory in the whole "cheating on Lindsay" - situation.

But I dont think she has much fault at all. Dean basically lied to her, he made her think the relationship was over, agreed on both sides, him and Lindsay. He made it sound like it was just a matter of putting a signature on divorce papers and that him and Lindsay were aligned in this.

And Rory was a teenage girl with crazy feelings, circumstances that unsettled her and little life experience. Imagine yourself in her shoes with the kind of brain she had as a teenager. I can find little fault with her. Even her saying he was "her dean", I can easily say it as something she would say out of shock.

I agree with Lorelais telling off but in my opinion, its really Dean who is at fault here, he knowingly mislead her and lied to her. Id say Rorys responsibility in this is like 20 percent and I find it so telling (in terms of peoples views on women) how much fault people find with her and how much they judge her for this mistake.

I think wed do good to remember Deans behavior here and also...how dumb we all were at Rorys age

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u/boagerss — 13 hours ago

Something I noticed.

Sooo, did anyone else notice there’s 3 different “ Caesars”? In the earlier seasons it’s an older guy that’s only shown briefly from the kitchen. Then a different older guy who helps with taking the food to the tables & cleaning it up. Then there’s the one that gets shown a decent amount. He sort of looks like a kid. Maybe 17 or 18. & he’s kind of funny too. That one starts showing maybe a little before April gets brought into the story.
- do you think they’re just all related, or do you think they just had to find new actors to play him?
- did anyone else notice this? Am I crazy? Lol. 😆
- are there any other characters you’ve noticed this with?

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u/CallMeWhatYoudLike- — 12 hours ago

thoughts on tristan

i never like tristan and specifically how much people romanticise him saying “rory was blind” and that they “would’ve folded immediately”. in reality he was a creep. he constantly harassed rory calling her mary as in virgin mary because of how innocent she looked. he had his moments but he had so many bad ones too. the second someone tells me they think him and rory should’ve been endgame it’s a huge red flag for me. the whole “a guy bullying you means he likes you” schtick is overdone and misogynistic. i also never got the comparisons between him and logan. like i get that they both come from money and are fuck boys but that’s the end of it. logan definitely isn’t perfect but he is miles better than tristan. the fan edits just romanticise him

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u/PerfectYak5533 — 18 hours ago

The misogyny and double standards in this fandom is quite astonishing

I was literally so beat up when I was staying up all night looking at Tiktoks saying so many horrible things concerning those two boys. First, the amount of edits praising Tristin is insane but then again I get it, Chad Michael Murray is a very attractive man, so okay. But the thing is how many comments there is about how Rory is an idiot for not "choosing" him, like no literally people insulting her in the comments and some saying she was the problem , I'm sorry what... ? First of all, there was nothing to choose. I know Tristin was supposed to be here longer and to have a potential real love story with Rory, having kind of a similar arc as Logan apparently, and okay, he was SUPPOSED to but at the end of the day, it didn't happened, so why would Rory choose him over her first boyfriend that she very much loved at the time ? Like, some of them, if not all of them weren't joking because when arguments will arose, they will say that they don't care and that Tristin was the better man which brings me to, second, how was HE the best man for her ? Again, maybe he was supposed to have character development but all I saw was a guy who didn't respect a girl's boundaries and was actively harassing her and she had EVERY right not to want anything to do with him.

Now, it's the Dean thing. I don't like Dean for several reasons, albeit I think he was a good first boyfriend but it's crazy to me how people are always dumping the fault on Rory. I mean, there are Dean haters, probably because of the ship wars with Jess and Logan but they will still blame everything on Rory like yelling "RORY WAS THE PROBLEM" and yes, the Jess incident was quite harsh and I will never defend her for this (I already made a deep dive about how I think her actions in this arc were quite reckless, even if I think it was a clear part of the writing and it didn't really justified her behavior). But, Dean was already quite abrasive BEFORE Jess even set foot in the story. I saw comments saying that Rory was always hanging out with boys even before Jess and Dean had every rights to always get pissed and no she didn't ? Like are we inventing things just to hate on the girl or ??? Tristin was harassing her and people treated as her flirting with him and outside of Tristin, she didn't hang out with any other boys, ever, much less flirted with them. Him breaking up with Rory and immediately saying something like "you don''t get pregnant while saying I love you" like can you let her talk or explain or is that no allowed. And I'm quite pissed at how people will make excuses on the count of being a teenage boy but people will get mad at Rory lying to Paris that one time about waking up or something while they were not friends. The double standards is quite there. But even so, his reaction was quite harsh. And then, the way he got mad at RORY when he saw her with Tristin outside of school when I think he knew very much that Rory hated him and never, at any point, to anyone, has she said something that will make anyone go "oh she might like him". Then season 2 begin, and Dean is mad at Rory for thinking about her future saying something like "I couldn't care less about Harvard" okay... but the girl you love is trying to get there ? And there is one scene in particular that hit because I was a victim of an abusive relationship for a year and it was quite triggering. It was when he came to Rory's house that one episode and started yelling at her because Jess was there while Paris was sitting right there. Rory was flinching at times and was asking him to stop yelling while trying to TALK. And in this episode, I will never not side with Rory. She asked to deaf ass people to leave her alone because she wanted a quiet night and none of them, literally none of them, respected that. Rory is a people pleaser so she said yes to Paris and then Jess imposed himself and she accepted too. I'm not saying that deep down maybe she didn't want Jess to stay but she also very much wanted a quiet night alone and she ended being yelled at by yet another individual who didn't listen to when she was talking earlier in the same day mind you. Anyway, I think I'm going to be flamed for this but oh my, is it sad to see witness.

u/James-Samuel17 — 21 hours ago

Le Chat Club

Luke buys all his gifts there, otherwise they would have been closed down by now. What else do they sell other than cat pot holders and cat toiletry kits?

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u/askimokyss — 18 hours ago

Jess thoughts

As much as I don't like Jess because of what I see of him in the show, he did some really kind things for Rory before they were dating/established. I'm just really curious as to if I would like his character more if we saw more of him, while he was dating Rory.

We hardly see Jess and Rory while they're dating, and most of the scenes we do see are them being physical. There really was not many conversations we saw between the two during their relationship. I feel like Jess could've really redeemed himself for me if we saw more of 1. their conversations and 2. a deep talk between Jess and Rory in the early seasons.

Does anyone else feel this way about him?

u/Technical_Beyond9861 — 18 hours ago

Predict the next Rory Gilmore Hate Thread

What is your prediction for the next ridiculous reason to hate on Rory Gilmore? Or will it be another;

-She wasn't a good friend to Paris & Lane

-Mitchum was right

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u/itsascreambaby96 — 24 hours ago

Why the show peaked at season 3 for me

The show peaked at season 3 because the moment Milo Ventimiglia (Jess) left it lost something special.

I think it was because he was connected to multiple main characters for different reasons:

- Rory's love interest who challenged her

- Luke's nephew and see their bond grow

- clashing with Lorelai and see them tolerate each other

Is it the same for you guys? Which season peaked for you then?

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u/abys93 — 15 hours ago

now on s3, and want to drop watching the show because of jess

rory is such a cheater💀 she is kissing everyone while dating a person. i dont like dean either, but yeah, cheater are piece of shit no matter what. (ngl i like her more with paris)

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u/SaltWelcome9513 — 19 hours ago

Rory’s MOH dress

What is this wrinkly mess and why was this her MOH dress for Lane’s wedding?? It was wrinkly even before she got to the hospital for Logan.

u/Ok_Dream_7663 — 1 day ago

Happy Birthday Matt

Happy Matt Czuchry!! I was lucky enough to see him at Holidays Made Here last year!

u/Swiftie13_22 — 1 day ago

Rory crying over logan

That scene at the end of s5 ep 18, where drunk rory was crying over logan on the bathroom hits way more different after you experience it yourself.

The first time I watched the show I was just starting high school and I've never truly had feelings for anyone, so that scene didn't strike me in any way.

But near the start of college, I was watching it again but i really felt this scene this time. Not too long ago I secretly had the feelies for a guy but he was such a player and was with a different girl basically every week (thank god I got over him eventually lol). I was pretty good at playing it cool in front of him, but I distinctly remember reaching my breaking point one day, coming home, and basically sobbing for an entire evening. That's when I realized this was going no where and let go of the whole thing.

That was all near the end of high school, and I think I blocked that evening out of my brain, until I rewatched gilmore girls and saw this scene. Oh man, that brought me back. But I'm glad I had that experience, because I think it helped me raise my standards.

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u/DeepHovercraft6851 — 1 day ago

Tippercanoe and Taylor too

Okay so does anyone else not feel sorry for Taylor in this episode. And the way Dean was acting in his whole episode just pissed me off just adds more feel to my fire as to where I do not like Dean and never will. Also I don't see the point of them putting Rory back with Dean was just a waste of time especially because they only really last a few episodes mean pretty much was miserable and grumpy the whole time which I see as his criminal for lying about everything about his failed marriage to Lindsay to Rory and lying the Lindsey about Rory

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u/TunikaMarie — 23 hours ago

How rich are the Gilmores?

Richard and Emily seemed to have endless money, but were also worried about money when Richard quit his job. And then there’s the Huntzberger’s money. Logan buying Rory a Birkin bag is probably the best indicator of the difference in their wealth. I’m sure Emily could afford the $10-30K price tag, but it takes more than money to be able to buy one.

I have trouble imagining the different levels of wealth. According to Forbes, there are 3,428 billionaires in the world, yet having $14 million is considered being ultra wealthy.

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When it comes to problematic moments why isn't Richard hitting Emilys car not talked about much?

Of all the problematic moments in the relationships we always talk about why is Emily being hit by Richard in his car not as discussed as Jess getting mad at Rory when she said no to having sex in Kyles bedroom

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u/itsascreambaby96 — 1 day ago

Emily and Richard are my favorite secondary characters

Please no spoilers beyond s2e11

I really love it when the cracks in their facade show and they relax and enjoy. When they came to Rory's birthday party and Emily gushed over Sookie and Richard discovered he is "an autumn."

I couldn't stop laughing. It shows that theyre actually human and not just the stereotypical rich people.

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u/honeyfixit — 1 day ago

I love Lorelai and Rory but they would be annoying in real life.

Now don't get me wrong, I love Lorelai and Rory. They're fun and dynamic characters to watch, and the show wouldn't be the cozy warm vibe it is without their big personalities.

But if I was at a town meeting on a Thursday night and needed to get home, I wouldn't appreciate the duo coming in late all the time and being disruptive. Taylor was annoying but he was right about that. It's not fair to the others. Lorelai throwing fries at Taylor? Entertaining, sure, but adults with lives who want to be involved in the town and fulfill their personal responsibilities probably wouldn't appreciate food fights delaying the ending of the meetings.

Lorelai also talked during movies and Kirk was right when he said that she was disturbing everyone in the theater. That's also valid. All those paying customers had a right to a proper, silent experience.

Then there's everything at Luke's. Throwing pancakes? Taking up a bunch of tables when it's busy. Trying to get tables from other people who are already sitting? Demanding Luke's attention when customers need to be served? I'd be unbelievably irritated.

This isn't a hate post. But just realistically speaking, I think most people in Stars Hollow would have probably found Lorelai at least (maybe not Rory) to be way too big of a personality. Aside from the main cast members that she's friends with, I just don't see how her behaviour wouldn't get old and frustrating. I LOVE lorelai but I love her because I watch her on a screen and her antics aren't getting in the way of my day. I might feel different if they were.

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u/bluecuppycake — 2 days ago

Max was the best option; change my mind

Im rewatching for the hundredth time and I still believe Max was the best option, hopefully more people agree with this.
I think it's because Luke was the worst in the last season (in my opinion).
But Max held a high standard for his personality, commitment and communication 😭

u/Optimal_Recover6890 — 2 days ago

Was this a mistake? Or a quote I don’t know of?

S4 E6. Paris and Rory having lunch with Richard and Richard said it was a pleasure to have lunch with them and Paris said this.

why did she refer to him as Dick? I always thought it was a quote from a literature I don’t know of.

edit: thank you everyone. I am not from the US and did not know this fact. :)

u/Citruslor — 2 days ago