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How Japanese Proxies REALLY Work (JPFans Misinformation)

How Japanese Proxies REALLY Work (JPFans Misinformation)

Last week, I had made a thread outlining why I thought JPFans was bad, and even called it a scam. This is me clearing up the misinformation I spread. I’ve also linked a PDF guide below on how these services actually work and how to order from them. You can use it for yourself, or pass it along to your viewers if you happen to be sponsored by them.

Shell Company:

They just aren't, their main headquarters is in Singapore and its an operating business entity as you can see bellow. It's not some shady money scheme like I had assumed and made it seemed like. They have a physical address and part of their operations, like freight transports arrangements, go through here.

https://preview.redd.it/cfdwflh95n6h1.png?width=1026&format=png&auto=webp&s=0ff3995807c0c8164310feb37145e2660c2ff91a

Extortion Shipping Fees:

Again, this was just misinformation on my part because I didn't understand how proxy services worked. As a lot of people pointed out to me, shipping is calculated by volumetric weight (both the size and weight of the box). On top of that, carriers like UPS have strict limits on how long a box can be before the price starts jumping up exponentially.

To get the cheapest shipping option, your box needs to be under 55cm long. If you see that cheap option greyed out, it’s just because you ordered a bunch of items with larger packaging, which forced them to use a longer shipping box.

The good news is they are actively looking into less expensive shipping methods, since JPFans is essentially at the mercy of the courier services' rates.

No Cancellation or Refunds:

Because it's a proxy service, and JPFans buy items for you from other market places like Mercari Japan, Yahoo Japan, ect., and they are at the mercy of these companies' return and refund policies. If you want a refund, JPFans has to go and negotiate with the original seller or site, which usually doesn't work out. That's exactly why JPFans and honestly, every other proxy service out there, has the same strict policy.

Here is ZenMarket's policy for example:

https://preview.redd.it/uhis6xwv6n6h1.png?width=1442&format=png&auto=webp&s=9c6e86c18e42a01d1c87e8fb3050c4beb0029569

To help with this, JPFans actually updated the wording on their own policy pages to make it much clearer and easier to understand.

Final Thoughts:

I really think creators and anyone accepting sponsorships from these services need to do two things: 1) educate themselves on how they work, and 2) educate their audience. A lot of people mentioned they were shocked by the final shipping costs simply because no one had ever explained the process to them. Hopefully, this post and the PDF below help clear things up (feel free to share the guide around).

Lastly, just remember that even if an ad claims a site is the "CHEAPEST" place to buy action figures, you still need to do your own research before buying into the hype. Creators also need to do a better job of not misleading their audience into thinking they’re going to get figures for dirt cheap through a proxy.

Anyway, I just wanted to apologize and clear the air. Hope this helps!

New Video explaining all of this: https://youtu.be/Yc-IlJnZXCM?si=APXDYoR1mwIh1VTK

PDF file you can download: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uke7QCr9xConAqrtMnwz94iVfpOwatnC/view?usp=sharing

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u/Firm_Scallion_2794 — 4 days ago
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WARNING: JPFans is an extortion SCAM!

Do NOT buy from JPfans, do NOT trust any creator that 1) did not look into them prior to taking a sponsorship and 2) took the money and are hiding all the extra shipping, freight and other fees from their viewers.

JPfans hold your items hostage in a warehouse after selling a certain figure for a low price, so low that it looks like a crazy good deal. But once it gets to their warehouse they hit you with $100-$500 shipping fees and REFUSE to cancel or refund you for the initial purchase if you don't pay whatever crazy shipping fee they demand from you.

They are a Chinese company, the same one that runs CNFans and use a Singaporian shell company called Novabyte PTE LTD in order to be able to process the funds, because otherwise, they would get raided and arrested by the Chinese authorities.

I did all the research on this, and explain it further here: https://youtu.be/EqHomA6kB9w?si=LA9JMSpIeU2tZMnF

But PLEASE be careful, share this info with the community and call out creators for promoting them.

If you REALLY need to use a proxy, use Buyee or something else more established. Do research. And screw these scammers!

EDIT: I made some mistakes in the video and for full transparency, here is more research I did because I was too quick to publish this to warn people and that is 100% on me. But what I found is even WORSE for this company. Now I see them as even more scummy. So defenders? (aka jpfans employees) screw off. 😄

  1. The random fees on the person's card was probably exchange rates, or their bank, or at the very worse, JPfans using bad conversion rates from USD to NZD.
  2. JPfans has a warehouse in Japan not China (but this makes it even more shady, more on that below)

The problem is that JPFans intentionally withholds standard shipping options once an item reaches their warehouse, forcing buyers into INFLATED rates as I showed in the video. Good proxies (like Buyee or ZenMarket) make profit off flat service fees and pass the actual carrier shipping cost directly to the buyer (like Ebay). JPFans uses low upfront item prices as bait, traps the package, and uses the inflated shipping charge as their primary profit margin.

If a transparent proxy quotes a buyer $300 for shipping, the buyer has the option to cancel or forfeit the order because these services have ACCURATE quote calculators, by the way. JPFans actively refuses cancellations. They hold items hostage until the buyer pays a hidden markup that was never disclosed at checkout, never calculated. Why don't they give an accurate calculation? To scam you with inflated shipping costs AFTER you already committed and bought the item.

BBTS and AmiAmi and other stores have physical headquarters. If they steal your money, you have a direct consumer protection board to report them to. JPFans operates a Japanese warehouse but routes its money through Singapore specifically to avoid Japanese consumer protection laws. When the proxy network Pandabuy was raided by authorities for operating literally the same model, buyers lost everything because there was no legal 'entity' to hold accountable. Meaning, when they get shut down, if you got stuff in their whorehouses, it's gone. You literally won't even be able to get your money back if you get a lawyer. That is why is should be avoided at all costs. It's a ticking time bomb.

Here are other reddit threads of crazy shipping prices and people's bad experiences with them:

-https://www.reddit.com/r/KamenRider/comments/1saapq5/do_not_buy_from_jpfans/

-https://www.reddit.com/r/ActionFigures/comments/1r4rixw/is_jpfans_legit/

-https://www.reddit.com/r/JPfans_proxy/comments/1t2enyh/wow_how_do_i_cancel_my_package/

u/Firm_Scallion_2794 — 16 days ago