Second attempt with Dantalion — harm-none intent for love triangle. Checking my setup + enn use
Hey all. I’m relatively new but I’ve put time into reading before trying again. My first attempt with Dantalion ∼6 months ago fizzled — I know now it was undercooked — so I want to sanity check this before I go in.
Context so you know why I’m asking: Heavy personal history — childhood loss of my dad to drug abuse, long-term sexual abuse by family member, no family support, had to relocate countries alone. Earned a STEM degree but I’m currently unemployed and living with an alcoholic, but trying to get out of this situation asap.
Dating the last 5 years has been repeated blindsides. Can't keep someone longer than 5 months. (Funny thing is they almost always come back lol.) I have done the self work. I met someone this year and it was the first thing that felt calm/safe. He unexpectedly disclosed last week he’s also seeing his neighbor, non-exclusive, feelings for her but uncertain where it will lead to. I told him I’m fine casual because I panicked about losing him. Truth: I’m in love and want him to choose me. Intent for her is that she naturally loses romantic interest and finds fulfillment elsewhere — career, new person — with no harm. I’m not after binding/obsession, just influence toward a clean resolution.
What I did last time + what I’ve learned since: First try was one white candle, printed sigil, verbal ask. No offering, no enn, I was emotionally chaotic. Nothing manifested. Since then I’ve read into Dantalion’s lore: 71st spirit of the Goetia, Duke, governs thoughts/emotions, can change minds, persuade and induce love. Traditional associations I keep seeing: Venus/Friday, element of Water, direction North, colors dark blue/purple, offerings of wine, art, music, emotional sincerity. Noted the tension between Solomonic commanding and modern demonolatry petition models - I’m aiming for the latter: respectful request + offering, not “I command thee.”
Planned working, this Friday: Waxing moon, planning for evening. Keeping it focused so I don’t psych myself out:
Setup: Cleanse space. Sigil drawn in dark blue ink. White candle for clarity, red candle for heart/passion. Names of both people on paper.
Enn: “Avage ayer Dantalion on ca.” I’ve seen people use 9x, 27x, 108x. I’m inclined to do 9 with full focus rather than marathon 108 and zone out. Open to input if there’s a standard.
Offering: Glass of red wine, original poem, chocolate. Soft music during. Roses and water. Maybe a picture of an artwork I love.
Petition: Address him as Duke Dantalion, acknowledge he knows/changes thoughts. Ask him to incline Person A’s mind/heart toward choosing me, and incline Person B’s toward other fulfillment, specifically no harm. State gratitude, that offerings continue if I see movement.
Close: 10-15 min meditation on the outcome — A choosing me, B content elsewhere. Let candles burn safely. Keep sigil with me after.
Where I need help:
Enn count: Is there a traditional number for Dantalion, or is consistency of intent more important than hitting 108? Don’t want to half-ass it, but also don’t want empty reps.
Simplicity vs completeness: I’m capable of adding directional elements, Psalms, or more structure, but is simple + sincere better for a second attempt? I don’t want to “kitchen sink” it and lose focus.
Signs/timeline: With a third party in play, what did your first 7-14 days actually look like if it was working? Dreams, sudden DMs, energetic shifts? When do you personally call it non-responsive?
Headspace: I’m carrying a lot of trauma. From your experience, does Dantalion work with raw emotion, or do I need to ground so the signal is clean? I don’t want to broadcast static.
Divination first: I skipped it last time. Would you pull cards/pendulum before to check for blocks or permission, or is it okay to proceed and watch for signs? What cards should I keep an eye out for? Not looking for ethical debate — I’ve sat with that and am framing this as influence without harm. I just want to be respectful to him and effective, because I can’t afford another empty attempt. This matters.
Appreciate anyone who’s actually built rapport with him and can share what worked/what didn’t. Thank you in advance. Your kindness is much appreciated.