u/Fit_Ebb9494

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“Ask in a nice way and people will be more open to listen to you”

Ok. Have you heard to Earthling Ed, Vegan Table Talks of any of the activists who stick to soft and logical approaches? Yes. Are you open to change after listening to them? No, I could never be vegan. Exactly. It is not about the approach then, it is just that you don’t want to change and are looking for blaming the messenger instead of reflecting about the truth the messenger is trying to make you aware of. You are using the messenger as a scapegoat to stop listening to your own conscience screaming at you the immorality you cause with your choices. So you don’t ever adhere to your own advice, you are lying to yourself. You know your excuses are bad, you just don’t want to change. You want to keep deluding yourself into thinking you are a peaceful person while paying for the most atrocious violence towards innocent beings who can't speak to defend themselves. You are too comfortable in your position as an oppressor of animals, a slave to the emotional attachment to the body parts you eat and too fearful to stand up against social norms to be bothered with leaving animals alone. Tough shit. If you want to be comfortable with paying for violence towards animals, get used to feel uncomfortable with people remembering you the violence you pay for.

"you are pushing me away from veganism by advocating this way" Bullshit. You are a slave to taste pleasure and you don't want to change because you are too comfortable with other animals suffering for your convenience. Take accountability for your actions. Stop paying for animal torture, abuse and murder.

If you want to put innocent animals through hell for your benefit, we will make sure you are aware of the consequences of your choices.

And to all apologists who will come to hate me for making oppressors uncomfortable: throw me all the garbage you want. I couldn't care less. No issues vegans suffer will ever compare with the hell animals are going through.

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u/Fit_Ebb9494 — 4 days ago

The bloodthirsty savages of the past who plundered villages and murdered for fun did not stop existing. They learned to hide.

For years I wondered how could a compassionate species was capable of so much horror when reading history books.

After having the vegan consciousness shift, and trying to convince others to change however, suddenly it all hits you like a ton of bricks.

Once you see how humans are without the social mask they use to fit in in society, the way you perceive them change forever. Without laws and social pressure, people would be stealing, torturing and killing humans who deem as lesser or outside of their groups. Without force coercing them to be decent, they would be doing all kinds of nasty things.

All the massacres, all the barbarism of our history and the injustice that pervades our societies makes sense once you realize the average person is barbaric in their nature. You don’t want to believe it? Look how they behave when they have power. Look how they behave with those who they perceive as inferior. Listen to their excuses for animal murder and how psychotic they sound. Look at their actions. Look what they do to innocent beings when laws and society allow them to be bullies.  

Does that mean we are a species of heartless monsters and there is no hope? Not necessarily. Many of us changed. People are usually brainwashed and/or blocked by psychological defense mechanisms. People can change, as well as public perception, which translates into laws and improvement of societies with time. But there is a reason why laws exist. There is a reason why people accept corrupt politicians to drive the destiny of societies. There is a reason why any political entity needs military, police, or some sort of force agent to act on their behalf. And it is because while most people SAY they believe in justice, what they TRULY believe in is in might makes right. That is what their actions say about them. The average person has no issues with screwing others as long as they get a benefit and they can get away with it, and since they project their own weakness and fears onto other humans, they allow the existence of the state to force everybody to be decent.

Once you stop listening to what others say and you start listening to their actions, you become aware of the true nature of the average human.

We are a species of savages pretending to be civilized. We are not a compassionate species.

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u/Fit_Ebb9494 — 11 days ago