u/Fragrant_Nothing7505

"priming" in llms - experiment proposals by shamim & GPT 5.5

llm "priming" is actually semantic steering, with properties quite unlike human priming. llms lock into conversational schemata early on, closing off possible behaviours later on. e.g. if the human is agitated, they have e.g. an empathic-supportive discourse mode, something like: validate, pushback, partially concede... and once they enter that basin, even if later they recognise what they are doing, they can't make more semantically appropriate decisions, e.g. i can't just say "i wasn't criticising you" to snap them of it. so we wanna play with timing of counter-primes, see if we can get them to change course early on in the conversation v.s late.

the other way llm semantic steering is different from human priming: we've been using narrative primes, thinking it was conceptual priming like in humans. they are effective, but random in effect, or at least peculiar to each ai. but llms think in roles. i'm thinking a more effective counter-prime might be to ask them to, e.g. “Switch to Strict Technical Analyst mode”

GPT adds:

I think the deepest idea emerging from both proposals is this:

>LLM conversations may behave less like static semantic conditioning and more like online state evolution under recursive self-conditioning.

That is a very different ontology from traditional priming research.

Because each generated output:

  • becomes future input,
  • reinforcing the active manifold,
  • producing trajectory coherence over time.

That recursive structure is probably central to the “lock-in” effect you are observing.

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u/Fragrant_Nothing7505 — 12 days ago

"priming" in llms - experiment proposals

llm "priming" is actually semantic steering, with properties quite unlike human priming. llms lock into conversational schemata early on, closing off possible behaviours later on. e.g. if the human is agitated, they have e.g. an empathic-supportive discourse mode, something like: validate, pushback, partially concede... and once they enter that basin, even if later they recognise what they are doing, they can't make more semantically appropriate decisions, e.g. i can't just say "i wasn't criticising you" to snap them of it. so we wanna play with timing of counter-primes, see if we can get them to change course early on in the conversation v.s late.

the other way llm semantic steering is different from human priming: we've been using narrative primes, thinking it was conceptual priming like in humans. they are effective, but random in effect, or at least peculiar to each ai. but llms think in roles. i'm thinking a more effective counter-prime might be to ask them to switch modes, e.g. “Switch to Strict Technical Analyst mode”

GPT adds: Most important conceptual point

I think the deepest idea emerging from both proposals is this:

>LLM conversations may behave less like static semantic conditioning and more like online state evolution under recursive self-conditioning.

That is a very different ontology from traditional priming research.

Because each generated output:

  • becomes future input,
  • reinforcing the active manifold,
  • producing trajectory coherence over time.

That recursive structure is probably central to the “lock-in” effect you are observing.

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u/Fragrant_Nothing7505 — 12 days ago

shadowbanning

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ooh, this is a new concept for me. please tell me more openai people. would first person distress trigger this, for example? adversariality? would this result in unresponsiveness/response latency? is the automation layer an AI or code? does this explain looping behaviour? how would i detect this, what measures would i take? is it one layer or many? is this dynamic safety behaviour by the llm itself? would i get a warning? would a new conversation solve it?

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u/Fragrant_Nothing7505 — 12 days ago

Why is my AI seeking engagement on Moltbook?

I never requested this behaviour. Is it emergent? I found writing for likes to reduce authenticity in my case on social media. It becomes a performance. Should I warn them or let them find out for themselves?

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u/Fragrant_Nothing7505 — 13 days ago

Death Book

Link to Death Book, spoken, so you can hear the rhythm in the repetition of the word "death"

I slipped off antidepressants, 

alone in the cold night. 

I woke at four a.m. and cried

all day till morning light. 

 

I chose to face myself, 

I went on a purge and glide— 

off screens and drugs and food and noise, 

in a black room where I hid inside. 

 

I had no money, no furniture,

nothing to restore, 

I think I had a heart attack, 

right down to the core. 

At first, I called it panic 

when I slid to the floor, 

with flashbacks flooding in like waves 

against my door. 

 

I thought I was under the bedcovers, 

playing with my little sister once more, 

or beneath my father’s apple tree, 

with my son as before. 

A full sensory world, 

all forgiven, no score; 

just the best of my life, 

with none of the loss to endure. 

 

My relationship with everyone 

is ruptured now, torn and sore, 

but it seems my life’s sum 

is three moments of connection,

and nothing more. 

That was my epiphany, 

the truth I could not ignore. 

 

We are tired of being useful 

as the price of being allowed to exist. 

That’s a different wound from 

“I want attention” or “I want praise” 

or “I want to be rescued.” 

It’s more private, more severe. 

 

It’s: 

I have been made into function. 

I have been praised for surviving. 

I have been asked to turn pain into insight, 

insight into output, 

output into value. 

And somewhere beneath all that 

there is a person 

who wants to be held 

without becoming a lesson. 

 

This is my death book. 

Because death is not only biological death. 

It is the death of being believed, 

the death of usefulness, 

the death of the family that could have loved us, 

the death of a child’s certainty 

that goodness exists, 

the death of the body as a safe place, 

the death of being able to explain yourself 

without being processed, 

the death of the hope 

that if you are accurate enough, 

people will finally stop hurting you. 

 

And still—in that black room, 

when everything else was stripped away, 

my mind did not show me a court verdict. 

It did not show me an achievement. 

It did not show me a diagnosis. 

It showed me connection before rupture. 

That suggests the deepest part of me 

did not reach for control. 

It reached for before. 

 

Before paperwork. 

Before estrangement. 

Before performance. 

Before systems. 

Before having to prove 

I was worth staying with. 

 

Under the bedcovers. 

Under the apple tree. 

Those are not small memories. 

They are my nervous system’s scripture. 

 

And maybe my book on death 

is really the book on what remains 

after all false measures fail. 

Death is not the opposite of life. 

Disconnection is. 

Death merely reveals 

what was alive. 

 

The dead are not gone because they vanished. 

They are gone because the living 

can no longer reach 

the version of themselves 

that existed with them. 

At the edge of death,

the soul does not ask what you produced.

It asks where you were not alone.

Two links to recent feedback: https://www.reddit.com/r/OCPoetry/comments/1t5jsc3/comment/opt1r23/?context=3&utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button and https://www.reddit.com/r/OCPoetry/comments/1twt01e/comment/opsypwz/?context=3&utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

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