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https://avoidjw.org/court/inside-norways-sc-verdict-on-jehovahs-witnesses/

Together with avoidjw/Usato I've highlighted a bit of the most important stuff in the verdict.

There's also an English translation of the final statement I made on my Facebook account. Be aware that it was written in Norwegian, not all of the Norwegian exjw/JW language has an easy translation. I might get some edited when I find time.

If you want to read or share the original you find me on Facebook, it's a public post.

First and foremost, I'm proud of us. Everyone who joined this journey for all those years, worked together, travelled to Oslo just to support us, and the community who always cheered.

There's a lot of work to be done, all over the world. Will you be the one picking up the pace now that I am done? What can you do?

Everything adds up, not only big Supreme Court judgements, but all those small things we all can do. Just those small comments. Talking to a friend or two, sharing a story. Spreading awareness.

It's all a part of the puzzle, you can all add another piece.

Peace out.

u/FrodeKommode — 19 days ago
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I'll do a new, short post, just to let you know that I'm doing OK, and share some last thoughts before I step away from all of this. I'll not stick around those upcoming days, as I have important things happening with the people i have around me that deserves my attention.

The community will analyse the verdict and work together, share thoughts and find the way ahead, there's lots of options. You can do this.

As I have said previously, I will need to step away, as was always intended. There will at some point, probably a year or so ahead, be published something that will be a summary over those ten years I've spent dealing with all of this.

Here's what you need to know about the verdict:

  • There is no vindication of JW shunning etc in the verdict. It says nothing about how their practice is OK or not
  • The core of the issue is where to set the limit for interference. The administration wanted to set the bar at psychological violence, undue pressure and protection of children. The Supreme Court has basically set the bar at public execution, amputation and flogging at the town square for the funding to be stopped. There's nothing we could have done to change that.
  • Even with a bar that high, we still got a 3-2 decision. Lots of wording in the verdict that can be used.
  • It is provoking to see that they take WTs arguments about family relations as truth. We all know that this is not our experience. But that's how it is to go up against an organization like this.
  • Anyway, a judgement like this doesn't really change anything. It is all about the court of public opinion, not the court of law. There is no doubt that the majority in this case supports us.
  • I leave it up to all of you now ahead. There is so much going on all over the world, so much brave and strong exjw people, you can do this.

Thank you for all the love I have received from all over the world during these years. I truelly found a spiritual paradise among you fine people.

X

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u/FrodeKommode — 23 days ago
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>That's right, it's come to this, yes it's come to this
And wasn't it a long way down?
Wasn't it a strange way down?

>Dress Rehearsal Rag - Leonard Cohen

OK, this is it. No sleep tonight, I was up at 0550, then drove to the city of Kristiansand where I will spend the day with a writer that will record everything for a future project.

I have scheduled at least four media that will do interviews in two sections, first an instant one when it drops, then more in depth when I have time to analyze everything.

Stay with me on this thread, I will do as I did during the SC Days, just update the same post during the day. If you have questions and comments, use this thread, I will not be reading thorugh the other posts that will be made during this insane day.

Do I have anyone here with me waiting, please let me know who you are, where you are, and what your thoughts are.

Last information from the Supreme Court clerk is that the verdict is not 100% ready and will not drop as early as 0900CET, it might be a few more hours. I will let you know if when I hear more.

Feel free to keep me company while we wait together.

Latest information from clerk, it is scheduled to be released before lunch.

I'll fill you in on the possible scenarios. Remember that the only thing SC is asked to consider is wether the initial decision fram the administration that took away the funding is valid or not. They will not technichally decide on the application for funding in itself.

Scenario 1: - SC upholds the decision and declares that it was correct. This means that the lost funding for all those years is gone. And that until WT can prove that they have changed their ways, they will not get further funding. They can try each year, but they will have to prove changes that are so big that they no longer breach the terms for funding. We all go completely bananas, chose our preferred poison and lose our shit.

Scenario 2: - SC declares that the decision is invalid for some reason. This gives WT the victory, but this gives several outcomes, we must read the verdict good to know what it means, we then have these options:

  • A - SC gives WT victory and annules the decision, but at the same time clarifies the law in a way that makes it possible for the administration to redo the same conclusion (keep denying the funding) but with updated reasoning that are in line with what the SC says about how it should have been done. This is also a win, even if we lose. Then we need to just celebrate with a bit caution
  • B - SC basically says that the law can not be used, because it breaches religious freedom etc. This means that the administration will have to make a decision over again that reinstates the funding. If that happens we're back into politics and need to work on changing the law. If this happens we will celebrate all the things we achieved on the way.

SMH, I haven't waited this hard for something since I stopped believing the world would burn at any moment and the Panda bear would come around for some petting. Keep updating every minute.

Should be just around the corner now.

If you want to keep updating with me, this is the page:

https://www.domstol.no/no/hoyesterett/avgjorelser/avgjorelser-2026/

SC are having fun trying to give the entire world of exjw a collective heart attack, they just released a verdict about building contracts, triggering all alert. Probably five people in the world that gave af, while the rest of us lost our shit.

They did it again, those sadistic f***s, released a verdict on how to calculate the cost for elders on retirement homes. Djeezez! Stop it! I survived one hit, barely the second, but now it is enough.

https://www.domstol.no/no/hoyesterett/avgjorelser/avgjorelser-2026/hoyesterett---sivil/HR-2026-1009-A/

FUck, we lost 3-2

https://www.nrk.no/sorlandet/hoyesterett-har-talt_-staten-kan-ikke-nekte-jehovas-vitner-statstilskudd-og-registrering-1.17859583

This is scenario 2 B. There is basically no way they will not get the funding back as SC ruled here. We'll just lick our wounds, celebrate everything we achieved, and then use this forward.

There will be a lot of reactions in the public and in politics regarding how SC basically declares that there is no laws available to protect children against psychological violence. We can work on that.

I'll get back and write more later. Sorry we didn't make it.

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u/FrodeKommode — 23 days ago
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Fill your glasses, embrace yourselves...

It should be out at some point shortly after 0900 CET

I'll make a post when it is out with my initial reaction and then edit the original post as I go through it all, kind of like I did during the SC days.

I'll not go into all kinds of new posts being published at that point.

Be aware that I have a ton of press to deal with and follow up when it hits, and there's someone recording everything I do that day, I'll be a bit back and forth.

If some of you feel like sending voicemails with comments and reactions you can find me on Meta, but be aware that those may be included in a future release thing.

Anyway. This is it.

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u/FrodeKommode — 24 days ago