u/Gamegyf

Hey everyone,

I wanted to point out that on Lumo you still can't move existing chats into a project. I just strated something prety interesting in a normal chat outside of a project but now wanted to put it into a newly created project so that I can better organize it. So my wish to the Lumo team would be to make it able to move existing Chats into Projects for better organization, structure and planning.

Thanks in Advance and interested to hear what others think about this!

Hey everyone,

I know this might sound bad to some users but I think Visionary should go back to its old cycle of only releasing for a few weeks after a new product dropped or just create a new tier that is the new Visionary because of the change on the support page which previously stated that Visionary gets the premium version of all current and future products/services of Proton at their highest limits but now doesn’t say the highest limits anymore but that we get the premium version of all current and future products/services of Proton. Because up until July 2026 people bought Visionary with the promise that they would get the highest limits. And I know that it is because of Lumo. Lumo could bring out a tier with higher limits and stuff but why change the statement when you could make it apply to the people that bought it before July 2026 or just make it pricier for new subscribers?

I love Proton and I know that Visionary is already generous but I think they should keep their promise at least for those who paid for it when it was still saying the highest limits.

Even though I stated those options I think going back to the old cycle where it gets more expensive for new subscribers after they release Visionary again for a few weeks when a new service/product drops is the best solution. Maybe you have more suggestions but that is how I think it should be treated.

Please Proton keep your promise!

Edit: Proton just said this under my removed post: "Removed as a duplicate of a post by the same OP: https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1ulhjuq/proton_visionary_gotwill_get_downgraded/"

Hey everyone,

I know this might sound bad to some users but I think Visionary should go back to its old cycle of only releasing for a few weeks after a new product dropped or just create a new tier that is the new Visionary because of the change on the support page which previously stated that Visionary gets the premium version of all current and future products/services of Proton at their highest limits but now doesn’t say the highest limits anymore but that we get the premium version of all current and future products/services of Proton. Because up until July 2026 people bought Visionary with the promise that they would get the highest limits. And I know that it is because of Lumo. Lumo could bring out a tier with higher limits and stuff but why change the statement when you could make it apply to the people that bought it before July 2026 or just make it pricier for new subscribers?

I love Proton and I know that Visionary is already generous but I think they should keep their promise at least for those who paid for it when it was still saying the highest limits.

Even though I stated those options I think going back to the old cycle where it gets more expensive for new subscribers after they release Visionary again for a few weeks when a new service/product drops is the best solution. Maybe you have more suggestions but that is how I think it should be treated.

Please Proton keep your promise!

Hey everyone,

My first post in this subreddit but I would really love to hear what people think about Proton Photos because I think it has very good potential. I even made a post in r/ProtonDrive about what features would be great to put that potential to use. So if you want to you can check it out. I gave you the link below. But it would still be genuinely interesting what other ideas other people might have on features for Proton Photos.

The Post I mentioned: https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonDrive/s/bAcOnnFnbh

Thanks in advance for sharing your opinion!

Hey everyone,

I wanted to request a feature that let’s you choose iCloud Shared Albums in the album tab and then looks at the files individually which you have on Proton and which don’t to avoid duplicates and then let the photos you don’t have pulled from iCloud so that you can save them in your Proton Albums. I know this is possible because the UGREEN NAS App on iOS lets you go in the Photos app of the nas and download the iCloud Shared Albums or at least the media in it and then you can create it as an album. That would be very nice to have. Now I do not know if this is possible for other Shared Albums of other providers but that would be very useful.

Thanks in advance Proton Team!

Hey everyone,

I just saw that the CEO of Proton stated that it could be that we soon (or at least in the near future) will be able to see Proton Chat because of the Chat Control 1.0 that passed through in the EU parliament. Now I wanted to point out some that features that would actually be really valuable when this comes out that Proton could develop now that they haven’t or have maybe just started building it.

First it would be great if Proton Chat would have Matrix integrated or even use it for the base to make us able to choose between using it with a Proton account and backing it up through a Proton Chat subscription/integration with Proton Drive or use our own Matrix Synapse to create our Matrix account and store (and encrypt) all of our messages on our own Nas or Server.

Second it would be nice to see the option that if Matrix is integrated that we can use Mautrix/WhatsApp or Mautrix/Signal to be able to still message people from other Chat clients while using Proton Chat with people that are also using Matrix or even Proton Chat. Ideally those could run through Proton’s Servers to make everything encrypted and stored in the same place if you chose to use your Proton Account. I pointed out that Protons Servers should be able to optionally run it (maybe if it is too expensive through a Proton Chat Subscription) because you can do that already if you selfhost Matrix but users that don’t have a NAS might also want to chat with people who don’t want to switch without switching between clients constantly.

Third it would be nice to be able to use GIFs and Stickers and maybe even import stickers from other clients. (With Lumo Stickers that are already on Signal always available on Proton Chat.)

Fourth it would be nice to encrypt everything when it is backed up with a key that you can use to decrypt your data on new devices like Matrix offers. (this was specially mentioned in the case that they don’t want to use Matrix)

Fifth it would be great to get the ability to customize the color of our message bubbles and add a custom background in the Chat.

Sixth it would be nice if Proton Chat would default to Usernames as a way to get in contact with others with the option to use the phone number if the other person enabled that you can find her by number.

Seventh it would be nice to get the option to buy a seperate Proton Chat Subscription for Chat Backup Storage if you don’t need any other services at their premium plan or you need your Proton Drive Storage for something else and the option to use Proton Drive if you do not need all your Proton Drive Storage or want to use the free 5gb. (Like an additional subscription for Unlimited if it was too expensive or included in all Proton bundles)

Eighth it would be very cool to be able to use Proton Photos and Drive too, to send Photos and Files that you may not have stored on your device at the moment.

Ninth it would be great to optionally enable self destroying messages in certain chats and groups and make it able to make Photos only viewable once like WhatsApp does.

Tenth I would really wish to get a multiple Rank system in Groups with dynamically adjustable permissions. Like Admin, Mod, User and Guest.

These would be my initial thoughts for the features Proton Chat should in my opinion have. I would really love some feedback and maybe some of the features will be considered by Proton and u/andy1011000.

Hey everyone,

I just wanted post to post about how good the Visualization feature in Settings -> General is to display data in charts and other visualization formats. The Lumo Team really overdid themselves on this one! It is amazing! I only had to tell him once to use them dynamically and he uses them perfect now. I asked him to compare some open weight models that were upcoming and he instantly started researching. After he had all the data he made a perfect structure. First of all the different things a model was best at (e.g. Parameters: Kimi K3 because of 2.8T, Cost of the API: GLM-5.2 (yeah he included GLM-5.2 even though it is already here because I asked him to)) Benchmarks, then the parameters and how much RAM they take, third he got me the cost of the API and created profiles of the model with all the data he could find and even differentiated between confirmed sources and speculations, finally he made some summaries as info cards.

Thank you, Proton/Lumo Team for your Job!!

Hey everyone,

I made a post a few hours ago about how Lumo shouldn’t integrate Kimi K3 immediately but rather wait and scale their infrastructure, but what I kind of forgot to mention was the need for a truly native Mobile app and not a web app wrapper. It’s cool that the Text bar is now native and some of the background too (although it always shows Lumo in the box even if you tapped on it to reveal his full body again, and it first needs to load the website to get that) but we need a bit more than that before any other models get upgraded. We need a fully native app with offline view, no loading the website, etc., like Claude’s or ChatGPT’s app. Especially ChatGPT’s app has gotten much more smooth and cleaner in the last like 8 months, while Lumo still lags and some features stop working or freeze the app if you have low power mode on. For example, opening the side bar right after launching the app. I tested it on an iPhone 16 base model, so it isn’t even that old. The app just freezes, and that is annoying if you want to quickly find a chat you want to continue.

There also needs to be a better transcription, but that is secondary. The most important thing with the native app would be to optimize it so that it doesn’t need really powerful hardware for something like opening the side bar. And now with the 2.0 release where more people use it, it is more important than ever.

But what do you think? I wanna hear some feedback to know if I am the only one that is bothered by this or at least thinks it’s important.

Hey everyone,

I understand why you all want K3 on Lumo and I would like that too. But the biggest issue with that is Proton’s infrastructure for Lumo. While it has been scaled to where it finally doesn’t lag or deny request anymore (even with the new Models and the 2.0 update) I think it would get really laggy and everyone would be frustrated by down times, etc. if they would bring K3 to Lumo. Because while it can now host at least or up to 1T parameter models with enough stability, the 2.8T Parameter of K3 would significantly increase loads on Protons servers. So that’s why they should not get it just yet. Maybe when they scale it a bit more then they could offer it but until then I hope they don’t bring it to Lumo. Because they should favor stability and reliability over newer, more powerful, but more demanding models.

This would also be in favor for new features because I think that it’s best to wait so they can prepare to fully use K3 by preparing a Lumo 2.0 Agent Swarm model with K3 as backend to get the Agent Swarm capability from K3. For that functionality it would be best for them to first expand their infrastructure so it can sustain that mode/model with stability and reliability. This would not only bring more features to Lumo but it would also be more stable than the 2.0 when it first launched because even that needed some time to get really stable and reliable.

That being said: What do you think about it? Would really love to hear other opinions!

Hey everyone,

I am a Proton member since April 2025 and I have Proton Visionary since August 2025. So far I am loving Proton’s Services and enjoy using them but there are some products that just feel like 2AM motivation kicked and then when it was finished they just said: “Yeah, so it’s finished. Anyway let’s just start something else.” And one of them is Proton Photos. I feel like they could do much better. And I do not mean something like semantic search and editing in Proton Photos. I mean that it seems like only an extension of Proton Drive that was randomly created. Even the Photos app on my UGREEN NAS is more Like a real Photo App and others things like importing Albums, etc.

Therefore I have some things to list that could be done better:

First of all, please allow us to use Proton Photos like Google Photos. Like let us see our photos even when not uploaded to the cloud and let us choose to back them up in the cloud. That way you atleast have the ability to see them right away.

Second, I really hate that I need to delete a photo and back it up again if I want to adjust the date and time, because sometimes those things just get mixed up (at least in shared albums on iOS). Rather than that Please give us the option to change such data in the App directly when it is already in the cloud.

Third, please make it like a real alternative to native Photos apps on smartphones. With offline view, storage optimization (like Apple Photos with iCloud), etc.

Fourth (optional but would be nice), make a separate app for Photos to use it like native Photos app like mentioned in the third point. It would be much nicer and would work really well for replacing native Photos apps.

Fifth, please also synchronize shared albums and normal albums that we choose. Like make us able to choose the albums we want to migrate to Proton Photos and then match the hash and filename of the files on the phone and on Proton’s Servers to make the albums available without making duplicate photos by just re-uploading the Photos that maybe are already on Proton Photos from the Album that the user chooses.

Sixth, integrate Lumo (or at least AI models)! This is of course something that should be integrated last after all other changes but should still be mentioned. Because you could surely use Lumo’s Vision architecture for this to make it private by making an AI model (maybe even local) scan a photo once before encryption or by using E2EE like Lumo does to attach keywords to a photo or video and encrypt that with the file. Then in search you could search up certain things and the attached keywords can be used to make semantic search available but private. Photo editing is not needed as much but could be implemented after semantic search. And even though I said I do not mean something like semantic search, etc. I meant it like it isn’t a priority. The other changes are way more important but this is still worth mentioning.

I think this would be very important because some people might need a real alternative for native Photos apps to fully migrate.

Anyway, feedback from other users would be great too. And again these are only things I think are important. Not everyone has to agree that these are important changes.

Hey everyone,

I wanted to point out how ProtonVPN has an App for both MacOS and Windows that looks pretty clean. Windows even has a more up to date app than MacOS. And I think Linux’s turn should be next.

Currently on Linux we only get an outdated, less polished app experience and some settings that do not even offer all the newest protocols or beta protocols (e.g. smart isn’t available and the Proton Wireguard protocol also isn’t there, even though it is on Windows). And beyond that some of the Linux clients aren’t even official but maintained by the community (e.g. Arch).

Therefore I think it is time to change that and finally build a good Linux Client for ProtonVPN and making the community driven versions for some Distros finally official. It would also be nice if it would look like the Windows client (with the view of where you are, the newest/beta protocols and all the newest features with a design that is modern and up to date).

Thanks in Advance!

Hey everyone,

I do know that Lumo 2.0 has drastically sped up Lumo’s answers and I’m not sure if they already implemented what I am about to propose (so please correct me if you already use it) but I would like to propose Lumo using DSpark by DeepSeek.

This mechanism would be very helpful, although I do not know if Proton can implement it at the moment. Therefore I would like to just get an answer if it is already used/tested in Lumo or not.

Hey everyone,

A few hours ago I made a post in r/ProtonMail and have pointed out how Proton quietly changed the statement in the Visionary section of their support page that explains their plans. Andy Yen, the CEO and Cofounder of Proton, replied to my post that Visionary users can’t really get the highest limits because highest limit would mean (at least what he said) unlimited usage of Lumo which could not be given to users because then someone could abuse the upcoming API. I understand that that would be a big issue so I wanted to propose a solution that was inspired by u/Ok_Combinations_1548

The idea is that Lumo Plus users still get unlimited usage in the official Lumo Chat with an anti abuse system like a maximum amount of requests per 10 minutes but get a limit on the API either per hour/day/week/month that they can bypass by paying for extra credits or get a certain amount of credits added per month (stackable) and then if they need more they can buy more or (that applies to the first method too) just enable an automatic payment for credits like with the subscription. Otherwise if Proton doesn’t want to allow unlimited usage in Lumo Chat then they could do something like a limit per 5 hours for the Max and Lite model (or maybe give unlimited access on the Lite model in the official chat with a limit only for the Max model) like OpenAI, Anthropic and other big AI companies do it.

The last thing would be that Proton could also increase Lumo Plus to 18-20€/$/CHF per month (with a discounted yearly subscription that would be cheaper per month than 18-20€/$/CHF), which would be similar to other AI companies, if they need it to allow us to send Lumo unlimited messages in the official chat to both the Max and Lite model.

Would be great to get some feedback from Lumo and maybe even Visionary users how this idea sounds!

Hey everyone,

I wanted to discuss two things here in this post and not only one.

First I wanted to talk about the color of the bubble around your messages. Someone had pointed out on the release of 1.5 for the iOS App that it seemed like you had the colors from the light theme even though you were using the dark theme and ever since then it was kept that way. Now I totally get it but I kinda liked the contrast and that’s got me thinking: Why not let the users choose a color for the messaging bubbles? I would say it would be best to both offer the user to choose from a grid/slider/etc. and some standard colors and one of the standard colors could be the Color of Lumo’s fur. This would be really nice in the app.

Now to the second thing: I noticed that Lumo Plus/Professional now states “More Max Model Usage”, “More Image Generation“ and “More Messages & Chat History” which is a downgrade from unlimited. And that is not really a problem since I tested it and the limits seem to be generous but it would be great to get like a little menu or something, like how Gemini and Claude offer it, that shows you your Limits and tells you when they refresh. Now for the people who feel scammed because there is no infinite messaging anymore I thought why not make like a second tier called Lumo Max. This would be maybe 20-35€/$/CHF and would give unlimited usage with users that have subscribed before the 2.0 update to get a free upgrade for the remaining time of their plan (until it renews) with the option to choose if you want to continue using the Max plan or get downgraded to Plus again. Maybe you could even do something for Visionary users or at least for the person sharing the Visionary plan. Like that the invited people get Plus and the person paying gets Lumo Visionary or something similar that has unlimited usage like the Max tier. Now don’t get me wrong they could also offer it to the other people that are only invited and stuff but I just thought that that might not be possible for Proton or especially Lumo in it’s growing state.

But for the last part I just want to ask the Proton Team directly: What kind of limit is there now for Lumo Plus and/or Visionary users and is the claim from another user right that free users get 10 image generations/day, Plus users get 50 image generations/day and Visionary gets Unlimited?

Thanks for reading!

Hey everyone,

I think we all have seen Lumo 2.0 atp and are happy with the features. I am too, but there is one thing that really is important right now. Memory! Lumo Memory really is great and all and it fixes some issues but there is one thing that is making it worse... No clean up of duplicate memories! Like it isn't that dramatic at the moment (at least for me) but if the memories keep on piling up, then after some time there will be so much duplicates that just waste tokens. Therefore my Idea is to either let the add one memory at a time stay but with automatic clean up and detection or use something like Grok where he stores it all in one place but optimizes it and edits it to the users liking.

Also Lumo should have the ability to edit memories directly in the Chat. That could be done like how Grok does it as well: Use a Skill that allows him (upon the request of a user) to edit the memories, add some or clean up some while syncing small details, that are not directly instructed to be remembered but can improve the user experience, will take place like it does right now... in the background (but again with proper clean up of duplicates or merging too memories together).

Other than that I am pretty happy with the new features of Lumo.

Thanks Proton Team!

Hey,

I always read through Lumo’s posts on X and the app update notes on iOS and it always uses cat jokes and acts almost like a cat. Now I tried to make it replicate that style a docent times, so why not give us pre-configured personalities for Lumo in the personalization tab with things like “assistant”, “homie”, etc. and a cat mode that makes it use those cat jokes and puns like the Lumo Social Media team does and just act more like a cat that can also help you do things, research products, etc.

Hey everyone,

I’ve got two ideas that Lumo could implement to get a little bit more useful especially since Siri AI is soon to come.

First there is Lumo Assistant:

This feature would allow Lumo to be chosen as your phones assistant on either android or iOS (if Apple implements it due to the EU and the DMA) with all the features Siri AI has but private. This would use Kimi K2.6 (or maybe K3 with that teased 1 Million tokens context window that releases later this year) because of its vision and agentic capabilities. Lumo assistant would not only be able to see your screen, look at something with Vision Intelligence or take action on your phone but it would also be able to do multiple tasks parallel (due to the sub-agents) if needed and take actions across different devices through a docker container that you could install on your PC or Homeserver with sudo access for it to like edit files, work on fixes, build apps, etc. on your Homeserver or Computer even when you request the action through your phone. This would be super useful and would also make sense.

The second feature would be Lumo in Chrome/Firefox:

This would be an extension in your browser of choice like Claude in Chrome but private. It would also use Kimi’s models but this feature should release with Kimi K3. The reason why is simple. Kimi K3 is announced to have massive improvements in multimodality which includes image, video, audio and text input. This would be a game changer because this feature would both be private and more convenient than something like Perplexity’s Conet or ChatGPT’s Atlas since it would not take a screenshot but would rather actively watch what happens on the tabs and act accordingly. It could also do tasks parallel due to the sub-agents. But you wouldn’t want up to 300 tabs to be opened if the model thinks it needs 300, so why not add a setting in the extension to control the maximum allowed tabs in parallel and when they get closed or timed out automatically. All this would really make a great point for Lumo and would make it much easier to work in the browser. The AI model would also be able to watch videos live and hear the audio all while summarizing certain aspects and highlighting facts that need to be checked due to the rumored 1 million tokens context window.

I hope to get some feedback on these features so thank you in advance!