u/General-Scarcity4531

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Bro i can't. He literally completely made up his own headcannon to disprove me when it makes no sense.(I am battling two more Tensura downplayers along with his guy at the same time btw😭)

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So there was a post on yt regarding why Rimuru shouldn't be in the relavancy league bc he was popular before being compared and then i came accross this "gentleman'' right here. Can't believe people are this delusional and still are prepared to die on the hill that worlds are plants when it literally does not make sense

So i think S1 Rimuru has some major wincons against DB characters.

So anime S1 Rimuru(if you use LN statements from later volumes to scale S1 Rimuru) completely negs the whole DBS and i can explain why.

First Goku scales to 2C with MFTL+ speeds

Now in vol 17, Velgrynd states that phantoms(who will be considered special A in the Cardinal World), would destroy a timeline if they don't hold back(due to magicules causing destruction of space time) which scales to Low 2C(as we all know from vsbw).

S1 Rimuru is demon lord seed lvl which scales higher than special A so he is possibly 2C. The reason we don't see these feats is bc Cardinal World is more durable than regullar Worlds and has passive effects/restrictions like stats reduction(multiversal stats are only country lvl in Cardinal World) and also speed reduction. Rimuru's speed scales to massively hypersonic in S1(which is very less compared to Goku but speed is irrelevant bc blitzing Rimuru won't work and i am about to state why).

Rimuru has benefits from unique skills such as 3 layers of conceptual manipulation(no DB character has resistance to that meaning every unique skill will damage all Db characters including Zeno) and has 2 layers of conceptual manipulation resistance(so even Zeno's erasure won't work bc it isn't conceptual and even if it is, Rimuru has resistance to it). Also Rimuru has immortality type 1,3,6 and 7 which is also another reason why hakai won't work as it can't erase immortals.

Rimuru also has low godly resurrection meaning you need to destroy his soul to permanently kill him(which DB characters can't as he is immune to it) and you can't kill him by destroying his physical body. He also has durability negation, high regen negation, mid godly resurrection negation and immortality negation of type 4 and type 8. So yeah, none of DB characters are healing or survivng/reviving from Rimuru's attacks and bc with Gluttony he absorbs all the conceptual information of his targets and isolates them, Super Shenron can't revive them.

So yeah, even S1 Rimuru can stalemate(only bc of massively inferior speed) or win against every Db character. Let me know if i missed something that can either secure his win even more or if DB characters have a wincon which i missed.

Although it has been updated on the cosmology page, i still don't see NEP mentioned on the character's profile. Why is that?

Now that Rimuru and many others(including the true dragons) are accepted as low 1C on vsbw, can't we push for dimensional scaling of the labyrinth? Like there is no way that Veldora, being a true dragon(a 5D being acc to vsbw) can only destroy 2 layers of the labyrinth if each layer is just a 4D structure. A casual attack from Velgrynd should have decimated the entire labyrinth if it was just 4D instead of just 50 floors. Am i missing something? Or is this thought valid?

I have seen many people confidently claim that Shiki can easily destroy Rimuru, Anos, Yogiri and even the Umineko verse. I did some research and i don't know how you can get a featless character who literally just has the statement to be the "Root" can be scaled beyond baseline 1A. Like how does her scale get to H1A/nigh 0? I believe Rimuru>Void Shiki unless someone gives some reasonable arguments(not like some fatetards saying every fodder servant scales to 1A).

Digital lifeforms are beings made up of pure information and they fight with each other using infons to interact with each other. So do some digital lifeforms have higher stats(strength, dura etc) than other digital lifeforms or it is just pure hax based fights or is the strength dependent upon the level of interaction with infons?

I think most of us agree to the 1A scaling of EOS Rimuru. But what about TDL Rimuru(vol 14)? I am not counting Veldora but can someone provide the lowball and highball for TDL Rimuru? I think it depends on how you interpret the "World" scaling in Tensura.