When did Bud lose his virginity?

They talked about this on the podcast and how the show seemed to retcon his virginity.

Joey Lauren Adams said in an interview that her character took Bud's virginity in the season 7 wedding episode. Bud acts like it by saying "I had sex.....with a girl!"

But he appears to have gotten laid in the season 5 episode Kids! Wadaya Gonna Do?. He comes back giddy and tells Kelly "I got her front row. I got her backstage. I got her.....I'll see you in the morning, the bad thing do make you sleepy". After that last line, I think it's pretty clear here that Bud got laid.

Bud later tells Al he slept with some of the girls in the season 5 finale 'Buck the Stud', when he's wearing those costumes and Al asks "are those girls?" and Bud replies "they're women now".

In the season 4 episode Rock and Roll Girl, he may have gotten some, but it's unclear exactly how far he got with one of the rock video slut contestants. I thought he had sex with her when I first saw the episode.

u/HDC48 — 16 days ago

Which was the hottest woman that Al turned down?

Al had a number of chances to cheat on Peg with VERY attractive women, but always refused to.

In season 1, there were the Cherry sisters (played by Pamela Bowman and Mick Jagger's ex Jerry Hall). Jerry Hall had been a highly successful model, but I always preferred the one that liked Al. It appeared they were down to have an orgy and film it when Al left.

There was the shoe groupie in season 6, played by Jessica Hahn. Interestingly, Jessica Hahn married series co-creator Ron Leavitt. After Ron passed away, she later married Frank Lloyd, who appeared in many MWC episodes.

In season 7, there's Vanna White. It's actually not him who turns her down though, as Peg puts a stop on it. Al clearly was not thrilled with the arrangement, but agreed to it for the money, after some wonderful encouragement from Bud & Kelly.

My choice is from the season 5 episode Do Ya Think I'm Sexy, but it's more implied than confirmed that she is the one. Teri Weigel was in a few episodes as Jade. The scene cuts from the shoe store to home when Jade's number is called, and they briefly show Al's reaction.

Al then talks about rejecting an offer from a very beautiful woman to fly to the Greek Islands and be her love toy.

I'm guessing it was her?

So I thought she looked the best, then the Cherry sister from season 1.

u/HDC48 — 2 months ago

Young Griff, the basketball star

Gary's had quite the athletic shoe-selling duo in Al & Griff.

I was doing some reading on Harold Sylvester (Griff) and found out he played D1 basketball. He was the first black person to get an athletic scholarship from Tulane University.

He was a 3 year starter (back then they had freshman basketball teams) at Tulane

He wrote the screenplay for Passing Glory, based on a game that he played in 1965 that integrated basketball in New Orleans

u/HDC48 — 3 months ago

Kelly's Smartest Moments

She will have her moments on occasion.

What are her smartest moments? I enjoyed her revenge on Marcy for calling her a simpleton. Easy as 1-2-C

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u/HDC48 — 4 months ago

Of Al & Peg’s parents, we get the least information about Al’s mother.

Peg’s parents are featured in a few episodes and have plotlines devoted to them, and Ed O’Neill plays Al’s father in a dream/imagination sequence after Peg sells the Playboy collection. There’s also that flashback of him and Al in Dodge 2 parter in the final season.

What do we know about Al’s mother? She has a drinking problem it seems, and I remember Al getting into an argument with her on the phone because she won’t pay him back some money she owes.

Am I forgetting anything else? Is she brought up more often? Does the family, or do just Bud & Kelly, ever visit her like they do with the Wankers?

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u/HDC48 — 6 months ago