u/HauntedMop

Between gen 9 and gen 7, which team has the advantage in gen 9 singles (no tera)?
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Between gen 9 and gen 7, which team has the advantage in gen 9 singles (no tera)?

This question arises from a thread on r/PokemonPowerScaling (bleh) but I thought it was interesting

In a gen9ou singles match between 3 starters (or 3 starters and 3 middle stages), which generation do you think has the bigger advantage? (No trrastalization)

Me and user u/Anevaino both agree that gen 9 is likely to be the one that wins overall, but they seem to think that gen 7 has a losing matchup into gen 9 due to meow due to fast knock and flower trick, and I think that primarina is too much for gen 9 to handle here due to hard walling quaqaval, and having easy to click moves into every pokemon

If you disagree with the take that gen 9 wins overall (if we assume round robin, each team v every team), which gen do you think has the best shot then?

What do you think is the better team in this scenario? Bonus, how would it change if it was vgc doubles?

u/HauntedMop — 2 days ago
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Primal Regigigas!

I had a fun idea for a new primal pokemon, and a good candidate was Regigigas!

My goal with this theory buff is to make it stand on par with the other two primals (which is a high bar to cross), so I want to see how close I got

The ability 'Unstoppable Force': Basically, regigigas cannot be flinched, confused, disabled or redirected when it uses an attacking move (physical or special). It will also ignore bp halving of burn, cannot be fully paralyzed, will always thaw out and will always wake up. It will have the protect bypass (Note: Self inflicted sleep from rest will still be 2 turns guaranteed wake up)

This might seem like an overtuned ability (stalwart, parts of inner focus, somewhat similar to a good as gold or purifying salt where can't be statused (though here its kind of ignores status), and unseen fist). However, I think this might not be as centralizing as it seems, since the only good spread moves regigigas has are earthquake, which isn't stab, and rock slide (which while coming off of 190 base attack is scary, it isnt as strong as kyogres water spout or groudons precipice blades, but the flinch does push it to be maybe on par)

Primal Regigigas will have considerable bulk in both sides, but rock normal is a terrible defensive typing, and falls to a lot of the regular stuff. It is weak to both of the other primals stab (though it does outspeed them), and falls to any strong fighting move. Being a rock normal pokemon also means that it is walled by steel types (with drain punch as coverage), and its rock stab is resisted by fighting as well

It's two reliable stab options are giga impact (150 bp no drawbacks for the big man) and crush grip (110 bp no drawback rock type). It hits like a truck but normal is a bad offensive type and its rock move is excellent but is walled by some of the same stuff that walls normal

EDIT: After some discussion in the comments, I think the ability should be nerfed by not ignoring the burn and still being able to be redirected (as this also isn't as thematic with 'unstoppable force'

u/HauntedMop — 1 month ago