Gonna reiterate this part before anyone ( whether you are someone i mention below, or from the group before or never joined the group before ) calls me out for pushing blame to anyone else. I had someone comment out and calling me out on it despite the original intent and message of the post was not toward blaming the people I mention in the story below.
I REPEAT I am not pushing the blame of downfall of the group to anyone and neither will I blame myself fully for it. I do blame myself as I feel I do have some rooms of shortcomings that led to it but for me personally I wont use the word blame. I rather use the term acknowledge. Also, something to consider to those who might still think i want to blame anyone, why would I wait until many months later or near to a year soon to make this post and blame people if thats my intention? Shortly after the group fell, I made a post about disbanding the group on my thread already but not discussing in detail. Again not trying to push blame or anything, I acknowledge parts of my shortcomings and flaws and weakness mention along the story too and whatever weakness I HAVE that led to the pitfalls of the group.
Now you may ask, then what is the purpose of this post?
It is exactly as what ive written below this sentence. It is to share MY thoughts and opinions and what " I " experienced alongside what some members think alongside me as my experience through the journey.
Now if person A and person B went through a relationship together and have different stories to tell to Person C, who is just a bystander with no prior knowledge of the relationship between A & B.
Would person A's experiences neglect and mean that person's B experiences are wrong from person C's perspective and vice versa?
Why cant some people simply accept and understand that the fact of this post is simply to state out what I've felt and experienced is of below and the truth to which I perceive. Sure many people including those mention people mentioned below will definitely 100% have a different view than mine, but do I diss them off and call them out for it or badmouth them to others? I dont do that but if you wish to think otherwise, I cannot help it.
Your experience does not equate to another's experience. It's fine and normal.
But what's not fine and normal is someone especially in the comments trying to attack me based off false accusations & trying to convince me that im purely 100% wrong by his words " I destroyed the group with my own hands " . Well its true to some degree i accept but if what u want is that I admit 100% it's my fault and u are content, then sure i admit it 100% was my fault and this post is meaningless.
But think further ahead, do you want to be so narrow minded as to only consider the truth u view to be true and convince others to believe that without even attempting knowing the person ( me ) firstly? As this person mentions ( if hes not lying ), he only met me once irl and through this attempt I guess he can know what kind of person I am through a one time meetup?
Now if the roles were reversed, I can safely say that if I were in his shoes I would have never commented such a thing he said as I first off understand people can have different experiences of the same thing and it's perfectly normal.
2nd - I would never go around preaching to others to stay clear away from " xxx ( person's name ) or telling them to stay away from a group of people without even knowing the individual first hand foremorestly. I feel this is a loser and childish ass behaviour mind my language but its the truth. Till this day as well ever since then incident, I dont go around actively telling people i meet to stay clear away from the people below nor the group they've made.
I have my own values to live by and one of them is being honest and respectful. Ok 2 actually here but main point is even in this post, despite knowing the names and groups mentioned here. I choose to not reveal them out because I respect people's privacy and want it to be that way. I hope others can do the same for me but I already know most likely, people like him that commented under my post that led me to edit this post and some people mentioned below have definitely done and asked people in their own groups to stay clear from Healos99 or to not go near him because of the past experiences. U can fo whatever u want, but I believe karma will hit back. I mean from genuine intentions for everyone I mention here including the guy that commented. Im not trying to play hero or make myself be seen as the righteous hero in this post. Im simply again stating out what I deem as the truth and facts as I was going through it alone myself as the founder, and i have nothing to gain from this honestly. I dont intend to recruit new people or steal people from their group etc. I purposely decided not to name the people and their group as if I did i knew it would be wrong for me to do so and may bring bad reputation towards them. I kindly ask for anyone reading this and people mentioned below or whomever to perform the same for me and not talk bad behind me without any reason whatsoever. Even if u do have a reason it's generally perceived as loser talk imo.
Im gonna end it off here again with this:
THE BELOW IS STRICTLY FROM MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCES AND WHAT IS DEPICTED AS TRUTH TO ME. NOBODY'S NAMES NOR GROUPS ASSOCIATED BELOW ARE BEING NAMED. I AM NOT PUSHING THE BLAME TO ANYONE AND HELD NO GRUDGE TOWARDS NOBODY. SIMPLY PUTTING THE FACTS I DEEM REAL PUT HERE AS SOMEONE COMMENTED ON MY POST ASKING FOR CONTEXT WHEN SOMEONE MENTIONED THEY HOPE I CLAIM TO BE AS OPEN AS I AM NOW AS SHOWN IN THE IMAGE.
GOD BLESS EVERYONE READING THIS WORK OF ART IVE MADE INTO STORY TELLING MODE & PLEASE I MEAN NO HARM ZERO HARM. IT IS MY PERSONAL ANECDOTE AND EXPERIENCES. EVERYONE CAN HAVE DIFFERENT EXPERIENCES. IT IS NOT WRONG. I AM NOT BLAMING ANYONE FOR THE DOWNFALL OF THE GROUP. IF IT PLEASES U, I BLAME MYSELF WHOLEHEARTEDLY BUT THAT DOESNT CHANGE THE EVENTS I HAVE LAID OUT BELOW IMO.
EVERYONE PLEASE HAVE A BLESSED DAY/NIGNT/WEEK AND BE SAFE AND SPREAD LOVE AND JOY. AMEN✝️.
I ALSO DONT WISH TO SPREAD HATE OR DISCOMFORT TOWARD ANYONE. THUS I LABEL NSFW AND SPOILER MODE. IF I OFFENDED ANYONE IM TRULY SORRY. ALSO I ONLY RESPOND IN CERTAIN WAYS WHEN I FEEL IVE BEEN WRONGLY ACCUSED WHICH IS WHAT A NORMAL BEING WOULD DO.
PLEASE READ MY DISCLAIMER AT THE START AND AT THE END. THANKS ALL AND HAVE A GREAT TIME AHEAD!
This is gonna be a slightly long winded explanation post for what happened in detail during the ExtroIntrovertSG group. Ik no one asked for it but technically someone did in a comment under my post, but I felt the need to write this out as i feel the truth should be out there and I should've done this previously but thought just let the past be and not dwell on it until I saw this person's comments and just wanted to comment and give some feedback regarding the comment u made. Nevertheless, I know who u are now despite my confusion last time when I dmed u to ask to join for a boardgames meet up. Xxxx , I hope u are doing well & having fun and meeting new people in the group u made ( that has denied me access because of the reason im gonna list below shortly ) . Anyway I hope your group has found success, I mean it from the bottom of my heart & I do not curse/feel upset that your group( yes I know which one ) blocked my ign from entering, in fact looking back i think thats for the better as well:) .
Not gonna name names/groups to the subreddit as i dont intend to dox or point out people in particular but well since someone commented under my most recent post of wanting to know the context for this person's comment of claiming me to be as open minded as I claim to be.
This post is gonna be about what actually happened and what I felt as an individual reacting to these events. You can agree to disagree, especially if you are one of the key people mentioned in the events, I understand u may have a different view of things but undoubtedly I believe this is the real truth of what happened and resulted in the fall of ExtroIntrovertSG that gained hype sometime around last year.
~ IMPORTANT DISCLAIMER : I DO NOT MEAN ANY HARM/GRUDGE AND WISH EVERYONE MENTIONED IN THE STORY IS DOING WELL NOW. NO MALICE INTENDED ~
Chapter 1: Unexpected Support
I made the post on reddit, following one guy earlier that had want to make a group for people in SG as an attempt to bring people closer together.
When I woke up from a nap I took, I realized holy Corn balls theres so much traction gained from my post and many people expressed interest in my group.
I had received overwhelming response and went to make the telegram group and discord group for the people that were keen.
At the start, I had faced some difficulty like helping to add everyone thats keen and thats when people offered to help me. I did accept some of their offerings to help and this person lets call " O " decided to offer to help me and I said yes. This was the moment I started to speak to " O " more and slowly build friendship with her.
There was also another person lets call " Y " that decided to offer to help me too in which I accepted.
Note that these 2 person's labelled " O " and " Y " were girls and I spoke to them both before I intro them to know each other ltr on. I spoke to these 2 girls and I thought we really connected well at least through text and it was before anyone in the group ever met anyone yet.
So I would text and talk to " O " and " Y " everyday and as an introvert, I slowly opened up more to them as I really saw them as good friends that are able to chat with anything and ask them about their lives as any good friendships would. I felt they seemed happy and really glad to be part of the group I made. I was happy truly was then that I had made such a group and my goals for the group were going to be met, something I never expected.
Chapter 1.5 : Bringing people tgt & Unexpected drama started?
So once the group had formed to over 100 nearly members or so, I realised I needed help and want to create a mod team.
So as I already spoken to " O " and " Y " and felt i could trust these 2 persons, I figured I add them to my mod team , and introduced " O " to " Y " , they got rlly well and I could see they have formed good relstions with one another, which im happy for. Even till this day even after they made their own group without me, I can see that " O " and " Y " definitely remained good friends and im glad that happened for them and definitely do not regret introducing them to one another which inevitably might've caused my group to fall off which I will elaborate on in a bit.
Ok so about this time, I started to want to get a real interest check on how everyone in the group would like to proceed for meetups and hangouts. I did a poll whilst making my discord server ( learnt from scratch, took me v long to make, it still exists today but still remain silent ) , a poll that asked people how they wanna meet as there are extroverted and introverted people.
So in the end the poll concluded and led me to host a online meeting first.
I was super anxious about how it would turn up. I polled another poll for people to select the time and date and then we decided on tomorrow afternoon.
When the time gradually approached for the meeting, I was super anxious as I was an introvert and being the founder doing smth like this with no prior experience is really daunting and having to meet ppl older than me felt scary at first.
So the time arrived, I picked up my phone and went to tele to host the meeting. 5 minutes in there was no one. I was sad and felt disappointed that perhaps this was not going to work out at all.
Then one person joined just as I put out the message that if no one joins, ill just end the meeting and do another day perhaps.
Then once this person joined, there were few others that joined too. Total had about 5 people?? Tho there were some that joined and left abruptly but there were about 5 people including me having the call for about an hour.
So through the call I also met these guys lets call " J2 " & " T " , that eventually I managed to meet up in person.
Fast forward, so the call ended and I thanked everyone for their time and effort to come and talk to me a random that they never met before?!! I felt excited as I thought this was the start of something great - at least it was before it fell..
Ok so after the phone call ended. The chats were starting to get even more alive and daily there were people talking and chatting which im happy for as that was my goal, even if I was being left out its fine I thought. Though my initial idea was also for me to make friends and meet new people and partake in the conversations but I thought as the founder I had a responsibility to fulfil and thats to ensure everything flows smoothly and anyone who joins will get the most pleasant experience and safe of course to meet new people as thats what they are here for.
I started making out different topics, asking and getting and being offered help from others makes me feel really like damn SG has such people around still and rhat makes the whole thing feel wholesome. Around this time, I was also spending late nights doing the discord server, learning on my own & by watching videos. I remember the guy on discord who offered to phone call me to help when I faced an issue and asked in the gc. Thanks for that! Even though I managed to solve the problem afterwards myself, I still really glad he took the time and effort to initiate helping me.
So fast forward, naturally the group itself will have spam and bots entering so I had to kick them out.
But during this time I started hosting irl meetups and wanted to see who would come.
Then lets call this girl " L " , so i texted her through text before meeting her up to ensure all is good and place and location is convenient for both of us.
Never expected it, it was my first meetup I was going to do from the group i made, how exiting that must be! I was really excited and anxious and I was speaking to the guy named " J " about it who was also from the group and had talked to him and became friends after the online meeting.
So eventually me n " L " met up for a meal near us. I would say it went quite well? We had fun talked a lot during our meals. Shared our life experiences and some things about moving forward how to manage the group and something that stuck with me today is that " you can't please everyone " line that was spoken through our conversations regarding how to better the experience for the mass people.
Also we were actually planning for a 2nd meetup tgt to see a movie but then things happened that didnt led up to it.
Near the end of our farewell for the meetup, I asked " L " for a photo and she agreed. I asked her for consent before posting the photo onto the group as my intention was to help alleviate the uneasiseness or discomfort some may have towards being friends with online strangers from the Web. I wanted to portray a vibe that " if I a random 22 yo male that made this group can do it and become friends with online people, anyone can too! " my aim was so that people can feel safe in my community forged and instead look forward to events that may come.
So after posting this photo in the group and getting approval from " L " .
Lets call this guy " H " commented some not so nice remarks on the photo and this somehow led to the tension built up around " H " and " L " , I wasn't really aware of how deep the impact was on " L " but then I reached out to " L " to ensure she is alright.
Additionally, " O " at the time also seemed to be friends with " L " so knowing this i also asked " O " which is a mod of this community at the time to check in on " L " to ensure everything's good and all.
Usually " L " seemed more talkative with me before the comments on the photos by this guy " H " . So I really apologised to " L " about posting the photo and I reiterate d that if I knew such were to happen, I wouldve never posted the photo but it was too late since I really felt the remarks had gotten to " L " quite deep and there was nothing I could do at that point to make her feel better except words of comfort and confronting the guy " H " that made the comment.
I spoke to " H " about the comment he made and apparently we actually talked once on discord before and thought we had common interest to be friends too so I told him maybe the way some things said shouldn't have said like that to other's and its not nice to be on the receiving end etc to " H ". But I wasn't aware of the beef " H " and " L " had until much later.
So leading up to the planned second meet up with " L " i asked her again if she wanted to meet up, she said no and said she had travel plans which I recall vaguely during the first meetup but I was q certain she said she could make it actually. I further asked her if it was " H " remarks that got to her and all and I think she said that was one of the reasons but not all of the reason if im not mistaken. Knowing this i felt sad & disappointed as the group i made out for good connections and vibes started to go downwards from there on out.
Naturally, the tension between " L " and " H " did not impact much of the conversations of others but I was sure this was something I should've taken action sooner as I know both parties were really heated up w one another then. I hope you both if you are reading this now are doing well in life and enjoying whatever u choose to do now ! Let the past be the past and enjoy on your life now!
Chapter 2 : First irl meetup
So moving forward, 3 of us " O " , " Y " and me mainly along with some others planned and decided on a meetup on marina barrage picnic.
As the day for the meetup edges closer, we were all discussing what to buy and what activities we wanna do.
I proposed to " O " and " L " if they wanted to get food with me before hand before the picnic as I thought it would be great for me to finally meet them in person and talk irl. However as " O " thought that I had something to inform them before the picnic meetup and wanted to discuss for the group, which i affirmed I just wanted to meet up to get food and eat tgt and talk, she said it was it was fine & I said ok then we only met at the time of the picnic itself.
Ok, also before the picnic time had started, someone lets call this guy " X " decided to host a photography walk.
I decided to go for it cuz why not meet new people before meeting another groyp of new people etc.
So I met about 3-4 people for this group of walking around sg and going to take photos. I felt it was quite insightful and they were nice to wait for me to grab some food before going along the journey.
We met and talk and took photos along the way before heading on to the picnic. It's also quite confusing to me about why " X " seemed to have beef with me in a way later on although I dont recall having much conversations with him, maybe the rumours of me got to him ( I'll explain in a sec )
Also worth nothing, that i & "O" tried to invite girl " L " multiple times as well for the picnic, but she kindly rejected me and said its fine and she was gg for overseas trip etc. I suspected it was because " L " didnt rlly wanna meet " H " in person and only came for the picnic when someone informed her that " H " did not show up for the picnic.
So eventually, " L " came for the picnic despite being a little late & she had an injured leg and was nice of " J2 " to carry her up to marina barrage where we had our picnic.
Well naturally in a big setting with around 10ish people , me as introvert being a host though maybe I should've done something more grand and welcomed everyone and said some stuff😢 , but i was really really shy and I came a bit late tgt with the photography group earlier with " X " . Everyone seemed to have established their own friend group and made good connections. " J2 " , " O ", and " Y " seemed to have made good talks and alrd laughing w one another. I was there in the corner and being shy and dk what to talk about. I only talked a little after this guy that came a bit later and was from NS. As I just finished my NS then as well I thought we had something in common to talk to for a brief while.
As we played some card games, enjoyed some snacks. Time pasee and it was late and getting dark there.
We then packed our things and moved to a spot near thr MRT for continuing our games and talking. During this time I noticed something though that " J2 ", " L " and " O " seemed to be talking some stuff very softly in secret, I could be wrong but its probably some stuff regarding " H " or me even. Why I aay this because as everyone was playing games, " O " and " L " were talking in private instead and things were a bit off that I suspected the group I made was slowly going to fall apart, I was right later on.
Looking back, as the host i definitely could've done much better in terms of being more vocal and interactive with the people I brought close tgt from online. I was really shy and not good with big groups of that size. I am really glad for the help from " O " , " Y " , " J2 " and " L " for assisting me with the first and last large official meetup of ExtroIntrovertSG before it was dusted. Appreciate u guys and hope u guys are doing well managing ur groups right now!
But still whats done is done and I will learn from my mistakes and accept this has happened, even if things did not go the way I wanted/planned - be it me meeting more people and deepening bonds for the group or the collapse of the group eventually.
Chapter 3: Sour/Worsening Relations
So before concluding the event. We were out from about 5pm to 10ish? We had a great time I hope thats how everyone felt. I was glad people were thanking me for hosting this and bringing people from online like reddit. I thought i managed to do something I wanted for Singapore finally. Before we left and bid farewell, we took a group photo! I still have it saved in my gallery tdy even if it means that the people I met then view negatively of me or not, doesn't matter as I do not feel the same for them but in loving memory of the things that happened!
After the event concluded and I reached home,
I posted the photo thinking its a good idea to incentivize more ppl to come for meetups and everyone after the event was talking bout the 2nd meet up, I was excited too but later on i realised there was already an inner group forming without me in it. I felt sad and knew of it but didnt want to put myself as uninvited and thus I kept quiet. I knew what was going on roughly behind the scenes alrd at this point. I did feel sad a bit like I was being betrayed but im well aware no one owes anything to me but the fact that I know these people and thought I had good vibes with that did this to me was a saddening fact for me and taught me that people can change at anytime and are not as what they say they are.
So I went ahead and posted the photo, never did i know " X " expressed immense discomfort and used negative words in a harsh tone saying like " so consent is forgotten nowadays already arh " type of way to make me feel remorseful which I did for not asking his consent to post pictures of the group that included him in the photo. It was weird because I asked back saying if u are not comfortable taking photo why did u join the photo in the first place etc. Then he replied back saying he didnt know it was going to be posted .
Naturally i complied and took down the photos as I do not wish to upset anyone over such a trivial thing even if it means not achieving my goal of showing people it is easy to meet new ppl and want others to do the same as I. My aim intention of the photos was simply to build a positive vibe in the space and encourage people to step out of comfort zone and that it's safe to do that here in ExtroIntrovertSG.
Additionally, there was several topics in the chat group i made. I only posted a few and removed them all. There was another image of the photo posted by " J2 " that was not removed and I got accused for putting up the images there. I replied to " X " saying it was not I who posted but " J2 " then " X " replied he will scold " J2 " later on.
Im well aware " X " is now having his own group with " J2", " O" ," L " and others from my group. Hope u guys are doing good and hope that if taking photos in another group is ok for u but not for in my group, I really wish that it wasn't because u wanted to have some beef with me which I hope thats not the case but I more or less know the answer to that anyway.
Following the event of the picnic that concluded as well. 2 more key things happened that contributed to the fall of the group.
One is that after the event, many including those i spoke to were thanking me about hosting and bringing people tgt.
I was glad and happy to do so and replied and sent out a message saying thanks to everyone who came and tagging those that had helped me in making it possible.
However I got negative remarks from " X " saying I did almost virtually nothing and it was efforts of " O " and " L " and others who did more effort than me.
Whilst I did agree with some of his points because like mentioned above I was shy and all and did not really do much in terms of planning for the venue and time etc and for bringing anything for that particular meetup.
I was the one who eventually made this space the group and brought everyone like " O " and " Y " tgt in the space and without the group I made from reddit and on tele, and me manually adding people from reddit, and making discord group behind the scenes) takes a lot of time and effort ) none of it wouldve been posisble. Hence i responded that with the above message in mind and some people came to my defense upon hearing " X " comments towards me.
" X " then proceeded to say " sorry and he wont host any more events in my group anymore ". Hearing this i was saddened because I felt he felt attacked or anything by other's and my response to his comment. I responded and really didnt want him to feel this way by saying like I didnt mean I dont get his point and I agree that " O " and " Y " did aay more than me in bringing value to this meetup at marina barrage picnic. However im simply asking to not disregard the value and group I made that actually made the entire thing possible in the first place in response to his harsh remarks made about as if I did nothing at all despite being the host.
I could feel tensions rising between " X " and me at this point and I fear that people started to talk bad behind me regarding this and the other matter at hand, I do hope i am wrong and people aren't this childish to badmouthothers but im sure reality says otherwise and I know it too.
Chapter 4: the last conflict
So after the event picnic ended and the above happened. The mods I picked out " O " and " Y " came to me propising an idea for the next meet up and some possible ideas. Whilst I remain appreciative of their ideas and eagerness, I held my stance as the owner and being the one that eventually decided on what to put up for next meet ups eg. This might be selfish move some may speak or what "O " or " Y" feels towards me but thats definitely not what I hoped for them and others to feel.
So " O " proposed to me that in the meetups we can have a all female meetup etc . As my concern i responded to " O " was that i really really wanted the space for genuine connections where no one felt left out like today i described to them the experience that I and some others faced during the picnic as inner circles were already slowly being formed. I do understand that no one can control this and everywhere we go there will be such inner circles but my point is that I wanted to minimise as much as possible for such groups to be formed in my own community ExtroIntrovertSG. Call me try hard but I am someone that goes all out for things I stand firmly by even if it means getting others hate which is uninvited imo. I do not wish to bend to other's ideas simply because of making the other party feel better etc.
So we had a very long intensive talk and heated discussion or argument actually between me & " O " and " Y " was simply looking and not participating etc in the group chat I made for mods.
So we came to the conclusion and argued many times why all gender meetup should be ok in " O " 's view and for me is why I insisted on not having all gender meet up for now.
To prevent offending her, I reiterated many times nothing against her but I think she might ve taken it to heart as im sure even though she said she wanted to be friendswith me after the argument and I also wanted to be friends with her. As of today, there was no follow up text from her too from my reddit dms when I asked to join her board games meetups and other meetups and I asked who she is when she called and said she knows me when idk her. But after her comment today I realised I know who she is now. Additionally the group she is in has barred/banned me from entering, i know the reason and thus even if she mentions she wants to be friends with me after the argument that took place after the picnic about same gender meetups, im sure actions speak otherwise in this case. Just to make it clear, I have no hate or grudge towards you " O " and I just hope u and others from my ExtroIntrovertSG who may feel some discontent towards me will not go about badmouthing me / putting me or my group ExtroIntrovertSG in negative light because u guys left and thought it wasn't suited for what u originally signed up for and thought how the experience was going to be like moving forward.
I cant control what yall say/speak and just wanna add that its childish to do such things evennif u choose to continue to Badmouth or speak about ne in negative light to others who never met me b4 or in ur own groups u made to tell others to steer away from me etc.
Im not saying any of the persons mentioned above have done the above but im quite certain at least one of you have done it. Im gonna leave it at that.
Chapter 5 : Final remarks
Just to add some more details i found interesting or that the dots connected that led to downfall of ExtroIntrovertSG
As I spoke to " H " more during the time the group was active, perhaps " O " , " L " , " J2 " and " X " knew and thus they thought i might ve supported " H " remarks against " L " ?
But generally I was a person then open to know anyone and want to understand anyone's perspective before deciding to blame someone or not and understand their actions as to why they committed such stuff etc.
Also shortly after " Y " girl left the mod team after the heated discussion of same gender meetup ok or not in future of me & " O " , I realized group chats became awfully awfully silent and something was brewing.
I commented under their group that i wanted to join in a comment under their post, I got down voted for because they knew my ign. Coincidence? I think not too.. but im cool with that now.
Previous ideas like using google forms to gauge people's interests were rejected by them in my group but adopted later wise in their own group.
It wasn't until much later on reddit and " H " shared with me that it might been that me talking to him and the discussion I shared about the gender meet up thing cause dissatisfaction in " O " , " L " , " J2 " , " Y " and some others they persuaded along that i am sus & asked others to leave the group chat. Though naturally not everyone left but the group got dead silent with the seemingly large enuf members.
" Y " did leave the group eventually after leaving the mod chat first but " O " remained and we decided to be friends even after the heated discussion we had on the gender meetup thing..however the promise did not hold and wr started drifting apart and until today when I approached her while not knowing it was her burner account on reddit, she refused to tell me who she is whilst I know that she knows me. I expressed interest for her meetups and im sure she 100% wouldnt let me go because if I did go im sure ill see familiar faces again and those people wouldnt want me there neither.
I never did anything unjust imo but the readers and the people mentioned above can feel otherwise.
I only wanted whats best for my group for the interest I see in my vision long term group. Im sure many owners of business or wtv might see it the same way.
If not whats the point of being a founder/owner of something if u agree to everything someone else from the public or your team says and u have to agree to it?
Im very open to suggestions and considerations in any group or thing i do. But does being open mean one has to accept that suggestions made by other party?
The answer for me is no.
But to " O " im sure perhaps what u think of me being open is vastly different and thats fine. Only thing I ask of you is to not speak to me in negative light to others or in my posts, nevertheless I wish the best for u and your future endeavours in always meeting new people and if our paths cross again just know im open to being friends again:) , sincerely from the bottom of my heart.
After this group failed, I just made my own group again and do my own things:) in case u wonder how ive been
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~ IMPORTANT DISCLAIMER : I DO NOT MEAN ANY HARM/GRUDGE AND WISH EVERYONE MENTIONED IN THE STORY IS DOING WELL NOW. NO MALICE INTENDED ~
Also, something to consider to those who might still think i want to blame anyone, why would I wait until many months later or near to a year soon to make this post and blame people if thats my intention? Shortly after the group fell, I made a post about disbanding the group on my thread already but not discussing in detail. Again not trying to push blame or anything, I acknowledge parts of my shortcomings and flaws and weakness mention along the story too and whatever weakness I HAVE that led to the pitfalls of the group.
- Im gonna end it off here again with this* :
THE BELOW IS STRICTLY FROM MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCES AND WHAT IS DEPICTED AS TRUTH TO ME. NOBODY'S NAMES NOR GROUPS ASSOCIATED BELOW ARE BEING NAMED. I AM NOT PUSHING THE BLAME TO ANYONE AND HELD NO GRUDGE TOWARDS NOBODY. SIMPLY PUTTING THE FACTS I DEEM REAL PUT HERE AS SOMEONE COMMENTED ON MY POST ASKING FOR CONTEXT WHEN SOMEONE MENTIONED THEY HOPE I CLAIM TO BE AS OPEN AS I AM NOW AS SHOWN IN THE IMAGE.
GOD BLESS EVERYONE READING THIS WORK OF ART IVE MADE INTO STORY TELLING MODE & PLEASE I MEAN NO HARM ZERO HARM. IT IS MY PERSONAL ANECDOTE AND EXPERIENCES. EVERYONE CAN HAVE DIFFERENT EXPERIENCES. IT IS NOT WRONG. I AM NOT BLAMING ANYONE FOR THE DOWNFALL OF THE GROUP. IF IT PLEASES U, I BLAME MYSELF WHOLEHEARTEDLY BUT THAT DOESNT CHANGE THE EVENTS I HAVE LAID OUT BELOW IMO.
EVERYONE PLEASE HAVE A BLESSED DAY/NIGNT/WEEK AND BE SAFE AND SPREAD LOVE AND JOY. AMEN✝️.
I ALSO DONT WISH TO SPREAD HATE OR DISCOMFORT TOWARD ANYONE. THUS I LABEL NSFW AND SPOILER MODE. IF I OFFENDED ANYONE IM TRULY SORRY. ALSO I ONLY RESPOND IN CERTAIN WAYS WHEN I FEEL IVE BEEN WRONGLY ACCUSED WHICH IS WHAT A NORMAL BEING WOULD DO.
PLEASE READ MY DISCLAIMER AT THE START AND AT THE END. THANKS ALL AND HAVE A GREAT TIME AHEAD!