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Novum Chaldea vs. the Invincible Universe

Been thinking about this matchup and wanted to see how people think it would actually play out.

For the setting, I'm going with Earth with both the FGO and Invincible resources/technology available. This isn't stat equalization; everyone keeps their normal abilities, physical stats, weaknesses, etc. The main point of the setting equalization is just to avoid one side being limited because they're in the other's universe.

Round 1: Guardians of the Globe vs. Novum Chaldea

No prep. Both sides have their standard resources and capabilities.

Round 2: Viltrumite Empire ( so all 50?) vs. Novum Chaldea

Same conditions. No prep.

Round 3: All of Invincible vs. Novum Chaldea + Mages Association + Solomon and his Ten Rings

Basically the entire Invincible side vs. Chaldea Mages Association. Assume the different factions on the Invincible side are willing to cooperate for the purpose of this matchup.

Round 4: Same as Round 3, but both sides get 1 week of prep.

For the prep round, neither side starts with knowledge of the other's abilities. However, they're allowed to use whatever information gathering/intelligence resources they already have.

So, for example, if Chaldea has something like SHEBA/LAPLACE or another system capable of observing, analyzing, or predicting information about the opposing side, they're allowed to use it. The fact that they don't initially know the Invincible characters' abilities doesn't mean they're forbidden from trying to find out.

Same goes for the Invincible side if they have comparable technology or abilities.

Basically, no free encyclopedic knowledge of the opponent, but you can absolutely investigate them during the prep period. Arguments can be made that the other side can't be observed or investigated if the team has specific counters from being spied on like in Dragon Ball for instance.

For both sides, any technology, weapons, facilities, Servants, etc. that they actually have access to are fair game. Prep time doesn't magically give them new technology they never possessed, but they can make full use of what they have. so if a character has done something before, they can do it again under their usual circumstances.

How far does Chaldea get? I will try to answer any questions about Type-Moon to the best of my abilities since it's convoluted, but also I'm not entirely familiar with specific individual Invincible characters so I would like to discuss those as well.

Round 1: Ainz and the rest vs Novum Chaldea

Round 2: All Guild members vs Novum Chaldea

Round 3: Prep time for both sides - All of YGGDRASIL vs Novum Chaldea + Solomon

The planet's surface was incinerated so no one was alive. Was Ritsuka just in Ryougi's head where she usually resides in? But if that's the case, she was was never contracted to Ritsuka at the time to even be connected to her dreams. I looked through the event and nothing explained it. I know it could be chalked up to Ritsuka invading someone's dreams, but usually it happens when contracted with said servant or inside his own mind. The oddity being the one Murder at the Kogetsukan event in which he takes over a lesbians body.

I was always told that reinforcement/projection and summoning (evocation) was always the "basics" of magecraft in Type-Moon. But I want to know why summoning is considered basic and not widely employed. Is it purely for combat? Does it have no path to the root? From what I read, summoning is all but simple. In Geronimo's interlude, an unnamed magus from a magus lineage spent centuries trying to summon a divine beast and only managed to summon a demon boar in a hail mary before being defeated by Geronimo. So how many people in this world actually has good grasp of this magecraft? What are the varying qualities of the summons used by other beings in Type-Moon? And who is considered the 'current' best summoner, would it be someone from the Department of Spiritual Evocation ? Alice?

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I LIVE FOR GUDA GLAZE🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

Imagine being so much of a SIKKUNT that Fafnir has no choice but to glaze your bravery. That steadfast dedication to go up against one of the strongest phantasmal species to ever exist. GLORY TO HUMANITY, THE PRIME SPECIES.

So I was hoping the finale of PT 2 would answer these questions but it obviously didn't. We know that other characters like Aoko only knew of Chaldea by name and didn't really know its functions beyond that. Other characters from other works seem to share this opinion as well.

So with that in mind, how would other notable figures in Type-Moon react to the accomplishments of these two and Chaldea as a whole? Do keep in mind that summoning a servant was supposed to be a gradual process filled with bureaucracy from both government and mages institutions to ensure everyone was on board, and now you have some guy summoning them on a weekly basis. Not only that but you have a special eggplant kouhai who wields a Excalibur+Black Barrel NP who's backed by a master who contracted hundreds of spirit liners that he can use at his disposal at any time.... and was given the rank of >!PRIDE!<out of no where while having no magus family lineage. Would they really hate the pair who saved their butts?

Yeah I know their reports were doctored at the first part but its a fun little thought.