u/Honest_Banana_3853

I was a fan of Kung Fu Panda for 11 years, KFP2 was the first KFP movie I saw. Then, KFP1 and KFP3. KFP3 was the movie that even made me like KFP.

I have seen many people doing similar rankings here on this subr so, I decided to do one myself.

Why I ranked KFP1 so low and KFP4 so high:

I know it's probably just me but I think KFP4 is decent (not good or bad). It got good visuals and a decent villain. The only thing I hate about KFP4 is for normalizing General Kai and Lord Shen. Especially, General Kai. I rather see none of General Kai rather than seeing him powerless and useless. KFP4 downplayed General Kai a lot which is probably one of the reasons why people hate KFP4. I get it, I hated it myself, but I lowkey like it more than KFP1.

I personally think KFP1 is a little mid. The movie is bland and lowkey boring. I can watch KFP2, KFP3, and even KFP4 many times without getting bored but not KFP1.

\Idc what people say, you can't expect one to like something everyone likes and dislike something everyone dislikes.

and what tf is even panda paws never heard of it.

(this ranking is purely base on my opinion)

Some people still say that Oogway’s the strongest character (in terms of power scaling) in the whole Kung Fu Panda franchise. I find it wrong, because if Dragon Po defeated Kai so easily, he should be able to beat Oogway too (if they theoretically went on a fight). It doesn’t make sense for them to make this claim. Prime Kai is already confirmed to be stronger than Oogway, and Dragon Po managed to beat the very person capable of defeating even Oogway, I believe that Po is the strongest character. Let me explain.

To first prove why Po is stronger than Oogway, I must prove why Prime Kai was than stronger than Oogway at the first place.

You see, when Kai took down Oogway, he said, “It is not my destiny to stop you, I’ve set another on that path.” People say that he meant that Oogway is capable of defeating Kai but didn’t because he wanted Po to beat him. Well, it cannot necessarily mean that he was stronger. It could also mean the opposite of what they’re thinking. It can also mean that Oogway believes he is just not powerful enough to beat Kai, so he trusts Po to do the job instead. When Kai first confronted Oogway in the Spirit Realm, Kai’s green aura was literally covering the whole sky of the Spirit Realm. It was overshadowing Oogway’s golden aura (later Kai’s green aura covered the whole sky mid fight, big detail). The power difference was already shown visually. Kai later beats Oogway by literally breaking his huge chi forcefield using boulders which throws Oogway away and he loses his staff which made him completely vulnerable. Kai literally took down Oogway in a huge explosion. 500 years prior to Kung Fu Panda, Kai and Oogway trained alongside eachother. They were very much in the same power level (remember Kai barely had any stolen chi). Oogway had to take down Kai in an “earth shaking” battle. One of Kung Fu Panda’s writers already confirmed that Kai is capable of defeating Oogway, he said “Po must face Kai, the baddest bad guy of them all—An enemy capable of defeating even Oogway”. If you still argue, after Kai steals the chi of Oogway, he basically became stronger than him. His raw chi + Oogway's chi + every single master in both realm's chi has to be stronger than Oogway by common sense. Even if he was weaker before fighting Oogway (i don't believe this) for the second time, by defeating Oogway, he has obviously surpassed him. And remember, Po defeated Kai who was almost unstoppable at that point, Kai had the chi of every single master in both the Spirit Realm and the Mortal Realm, except Po and Tigress. When Po exploded in the Spirit Realm, he managed to change the entire sky colour in a matter of seconds. This shows that dragon Po had higher chi than General Kai. Though the dragon transformation was only temporary and Po probably lost the transformation while he sent dragon into Kai. It still doesn’t change the fact that peak Po is the strongest.

If you think Oogway is stronger than Po, this technically means Kai is the strongest character in the canon part of the franchise.

if Oogway < Kai, and Kai < Dragon Po, then obviously it should be Oogway < Kai < Po

Use logic, its so simple, Kai and Po are stronger than Oogway and Po's the strongest out of them all. Both of the arguments about Oogway being stronger than Kai and Po being weaker than Oogway are stupid arguments made to only glaze Oogway. Where is your evidence to these claims? How do you think Oogway is stronger than Prime Kai? How do you think Po is weaker than Oogway? This was the only time we saw Oogway fight. There was no other scenes that shows Oogway pulling mountains and smashing boulders with ease. If Po and Kai got more feats to prove why they’re stronger than Oogway (meanwhile Oogway almost has none), it’s not safe to assume that Oogway is stronger than both. Kai took on everyone (including Oogway) with no struggle, but only struggled and lost against the Po who got chi boost.

(Just saying)
Also, Kai took way longer time to steal Po’s chi meanwhile he barely took like 10 seconds to steall Oogway’s chi.

Though, in raw power, Oogway might be the strongest character as he did defeat raw power General Kai 510 years ago (tho kai is higher in brute physical strength).

If it’s full peak power:

1. Po
2. General Kai
3. Master Oogway

If it’s raw power:

1. Master Oogway (might switch places with general kai cuz I like him more)
2. General Kai (might switch places with master oogway cuz I hate him more)
3. Po

(Sorry if grammatical errors. My point is, Kai and Po was stronger than oogway)

The first image is obviously General Kai, the second is Old WhiteBeard (not prime whitebeard) from anime The One Piece. For those who don’t know who he is, he’s known as the “Strongest Man of the World” (in the one piece world) at MarineFord Arc. He has eaten a devil fruit which gives him to power to summon tremors and earthquakes as his devil fruit’s name suggests (Gura-Gura no mi). He was apparently capable of destroying the Earth as suggested by Former Fleet Admiral Sengoku the Buddha. WhiteBeard is at least well over 21 feet tall which makes him way taller than General Kai who’s 9 feet tall (12 feet if you count horns), going into power scaling.

Whitebeard probably surpasses any Kung Fu Panda character in raw power, but Kai is harder to permanently defeat as he cannot die the normal way. Whitebeard’s quake powers can create massive shockwaves, earthquakes, and tsunamis and he can tilt islands. He’s literally called “the strongest man in the world” in One Piece. Kai defeated many kung fu masters and even beat Master Oogway in the Spirit Realm. He’s extremely dangerous in close combat and uses chi takin plus jade warriors. Whitebeard survived absurd injuries during Marineford and kept fighting. Near his death, WhiteBeard endured 267 sword wounds, 152 bullet wounds, 46 cannon hits and much more and still managed to fight for a decent amount of time until he himself accepted his death, keep in mind that he was having Stage 4 Cancer. One famous detail from the narration is that he died without a single wound on his back, symbolizing that he never ran away from fights. Meanwhile, Kai is tricky because in spirit form he’s not easy to kill normally. Kai’s chi manipulation is probably his biggest advantage. He has universal level of power and If he can steal or disrupt Whitebeard’s energy, the fight would change fast. WhiteBeard does seem stronger here but his main setback is that he has Stage 4 Cancer. He cannot go all out in the fight. he’s mortal after all. Kai may eventually win because he’s extremely difficult to put down permanently unless Whitebeard has a way to counter Kai’s abilities.

Ignore the temple, I want a seed with mountains like this. I want to recreate the Jade Palace on Minecraft so I want a seed similar to this

They are all over the Spirit Realm. Some seem much bigger than the Jade Palace, as shown in the picture. They have large doors (tall as Dragon Po). Who built them, and what is inside them?

(Had to repost because of title issues)

Let me end this debate once and for all. When Kai took down Oogway, you all know that he said, “It is not my destiny to stop you, I’ve set another on that path.” People say that he meant that Oogway is capable of defeating Kai but didn’t because he wanted Po to beat him. Well, remember, it cannot necessarily mean that he was just holding back. It could also mean the opposite of what they’re thinking. It can also mean that Oogway believes he is just not powerful enough to beat Kai, so he trusts Po to do the job instead. When Kai first confronted Oogway in the Spirit Realm, Kai’s green aura was literally covering the whole sky of the Spirit Realm. It was overshadowing Oogway’s golden aura (later Kai’s green aura covered the whole sky mid fight, big detail). The power difference was already shown visually. Kai later beats Oogway by literally breaking his huge chi forcefield using boulders which throws Oogway away and he loses his staff which made him completely vulnerable. Kai literally took down Oogway in a huge explosion. 500 years prior to King Fu Panda, Kai and Oogway trained alongside eachother. They were very much in the same power level (remember Kai barely had any stolen chi). Oogway had to take down Kai in an “earth shaking” battle. One of Kung Fu Panda’s writers already confirmed that Kai is capable of defeating Oogway, he said “Po must face Kai, the baddest bad guy of them all—An enemy capable of defeating even Oogway”. If Oogway can really beat Prime Kai (ofc he cant) he wouldn’t beat him easily like people say. If you really watch the movie carefully, you would know that Oogway beating Kai would not make sense. If you’re still gonna be biased and argue, after Kai steals the chi of Oogway, he basically became stronger than him. His raw chi + Oogway's chi + every single master in both realm's chi has to be stronger than Oogway by common sense. Even if he was weaker before fighting Oogway (i don't believe this) for the second time, by defeating Oogway, he has obviously surpassed him. You Oogway glazers have no other reason for Oogway's loss. Yall believe everything shown on shorts. Accept Oogway’s defeat, Accept the TRUTH. Prime Oogway is not the strongest. You cannot argue anymore as the writer of Kung Fu Panda himself confirmed the winner of this debate. Kai (with the stolen chi) was the strongest. Stop trying to down play Kai. He genuinely deserves more respect.

Let me end this debate once and for all. When Kai took down Oogway, you all know that he said, “It is not my destiny to stop you, I’ve set another on that path.” People say that he meant that Oogway is capable of defeating Kai but didn’t because he wanted Po to beat him. Well, remember, it cannot necessarily mean that he was just holding back. It could also mean the opposite of what they’re thinking. It can also mean that Oogway believes he is just not powerful enough to beat Kai, so he trusts Po to do the job instead. When Kai first confronted Oogway in the Spirit Realm, Kai’s green aura was literally covering the whole sky of the Spirit Realm. It was overshadowing Oogway’s golden aura (later Kai’s green aura covered the whole sky mid fight, big detail). The power difference was already shown visually. Kai later beats Oogway by literally breaking his huge chi forcefield using boulders which throws Oogway away and he loses his staff which made him completely vulnerable. Kai literally took down Oogway in a huge explosion. 500 years prior to King Fu Panda, Kai and Oogway trained alongside eachother. They were very much in the same power level (remember Kai barely had any stolen chi). Oogway had to take down Kai in an “earth shaking” battle. One of Kung Fu Panda’s writers already confirmed that Kai is capable of defeating Oogway, he said “Po must face Kai, the baddest bad guy of them all—An enemy capable of defeating even Oogway”. If Oogway can really beat Prime Kai (ofc he cant) he wouldn’t beat him easily like people say. If you really watch the movie carefully, you would know that Oogway beating Kai would not make sense. If you’re still gonna be biased and argue, after Kai steals the chi of Oogway, he basically became stronger than him. His raw chi + Oogway's chi + every single master in both realm's chi has to be stronger than Oogway by common sense. Even if he was weaker before fighting Oogway (i don't believe this) for the second time, by defeating Oogway, he has obviously surpassed him. You Oogway glazers have no other reason for Oogway's loss. Yall believe everything shown on shorts. Accept Oogway’s defeat, Accept the TRUTH. Prime Oogway is not the strongest. You cannot argue anymore as the writer of Kung Fu Panda himself confirmed the winner of this debate. Kai (with the stolen chi) was the strongest. Stop trying to down play Kai. He genuinely deserves more respect.

Frick that duck and rabbit for ruining this moment Kai should’ve just stepped on them..

Song: Sonne by Rammstein

I tried my best. I’m not really good at editing